JDM Tomei 320km/h cluster **Can anyone help this member**

[Muhib]

Hi guys, really like the cluster and I am wondering if it is a straight forward swap. Also how do I roll the kilometers on the Tomei cluster? It does not match my mileage.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/JDM-TOMEI-320kmh ... 3a70b3ac85

I took out my Accord cluster many times, if that helps lol

[Muhib]

bump....anyone?

[300ZXttZMAN]

Ok i'm going to move it over to general chat. Hopefully someone knows the answer to your question.

[TTkickedin]

Ok, if you just want to swap clusters, it should just be a matter of taking your old one out, and installing the new one.

But if you want the mileage correct...I think, and I don't know if this will work, you might be able to swap just the 320km/h section over to your USDM cluster with the correct miles. Should be without issue as well, the speedo's come off, entire assembly, but you will have to disassemble both the USDM and the Tomei cluster to do it.

I can almost guarantee though, unless I'm mistaken, that you won't be able to roll back or roll forward the mileage on the cluster USDM or Tomei.

Dont quote any of the above for actual truth. I have no idea if the speedometer in km/h swapped into a usdm cluster's speedometer location will read in MPH due to being in a USDM cluster's circuit board.

maybe this link will help you:

http://www.courtlukens.com/Tech/installing_cluster.htm

And be sure to MATCH the miles on the car. Dont go any lower, or you risk a federal offense if you sell the car and they find out you rolled back the miles.

[Muhib]

Mine is canadian cluster :p. When you say swapping, you mean taking apart the cluster too? As in taking apart the glass and main assembly? I hope not....i thought its a straight forward swap. So no way to roll forward the kilometers eh?

[TTkickedin]

Ah, ok. So the canadian cluster should be in km/h then!

If thats the case you should be able to buy the Tomei cluster, pop out the 320km/h unit, pop out the canadian speedo unit, then place the 320km/h unit in the canadian cluster and not even have to worry about mileage!


Now it's up to you to figure out if you can actually take the speedo out of the original cluster and the tomei cluster (should be able to.) As for jsut directly swapping the Tomei cluster in, see if the mileage rollback method posted in the above link in my post works. I couldn't find any z32 specific, especially dealing with tomei/canadian clusters, but it IS involving cars of similar time period, my assumption is that they share similar technology...


*Edit* I just found a link from a Nico user stating a "Speed Counter" to change actual miles on a 300zx cluster. You might want to get in touch with him, if this guy is still active on nico: for-sale-twin-turbo-gauge-cluster-1990- ... 45573.html

[Muhib]

Ah, ok. So the canadian cluster should be in km/h then!
If thats the case you should be able to buy the Tomei cluster, pop out the 320km/h unit, pop out the canadian speedo unit, then place the 320km/h unit in the canadian cluster and not even have to worry about mileage!

you mean, the black part from Tomei + white part from my Canadian cluster, right?

The black part in Tomei has the gauges and white part in Tomei has the mechanism, if that makes sense. So if I put the Tomei black part on top of my Canadian white/grey part of the cluster, I should not worry about the kilometers because it would remain same?

Sorry, I dont know if I am making sense...apologies if i am not

[TTkickedin]

Ok, lets say you bought the tomei and removed the cluster from your car.

your cluster on the left, tomei on the right on a table in front of you.

They should look the same, mostly black with white lettering except that the Tomei reads 320km/h.

Now, you disassemble both clusters side by side. you have it so that on each cluster, you can see the circuit boards behind the clusters.

On the cluster you have on the left, you remove the speedometer section entirely, leaving a round hole where it used to be. You do the same to the tomei one on the right side. So now, in front of you on the left side in order: back casing to the entire canadian cluster > circuit board > rest of the cluster with a hole where the speedo used to be > canadian speedo.

then on the right side (tomei) it should be: back casing to the entire cluster > circuit board > rest of the cluster with a hole where the Tomei speedo should be > Tomei speedo.

now, take the canadian speedo in your left hand, and take the tomei speedo in your right hand, and criss cross your arms so they swap sides. Now you have the tomei speedo on the left side where the canadian stuff is, and on the right you have the canadian speedo with the rest of the tomei stuff.

What should happen is, you reinstall the left side the same way you disassembled it, only this time you're installing the Tomei speedo inside the canadian cluster! once you do that, on the right side there should be a bunch of left over Tomei equipment plus the canadian speedo.

Reinstall the canadian speedo in the tomei stuff and sell that to me.

[Muhib]

Thank you, man! Very helpful tips! Are there screws that I can take out to disassemble the clusters? Or is it going to be heat gun way? I might need the canadian speedo if I decide to sell Z down the road.......which is not anytime soon plus the wife would hate me if we sell it.

[TTkickedin]

Can't say, though on a Miata of similar years/similar technology, I know that you can disassemble the speedo section with screws! I can't tell how it will be on a 300zx, but if you need a heat gun, a powerful blowdryer works just as well and won't overheat the rest of the circuitry.

Glad I could be of some type of help! I don't know if it will work 100% but if you have a good price on the Tomei, it shouldn't be much fo a loss if you so happen to break something. JDM/Canada clusters are pretty cheap anyway if you do.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Please note OP*

If you break anything in the cluster just let me know i'll ship you this (USDM) TT cluster from my parts car you just pay cost of shipping...

Instead of trying to roll back the KM's and all that stuff which risks breaking things. Print the add from ebay (including the one showing the KM's) then once you get the cluster put it in, see if it will fit and hook up to all the things you have in your car. Then keep your old cluster if you ever wish to sell the car you can show them your old cluster and the ad that you bought the tomei cluster from so that you can prove the KM's your Z has.

[Muhib]

will make a trip to local JDM shops to check out some of the JDM clusters and see how the clusters are assembled. Not going to lie but $340 does seem a lot for the tomei cluster.

[Muhib]

Please note OP*

If you break anything in the cluster just let me know i'll ship you this (USDM) TT cluster from my parts car you just pay cost of shipping...

Instead of trying to roll back the KM's and all that stuff which risks breaking things. Print the add from ebay (including the one showing the KM's) then once you get the cluster put it in, see if it will fit and hook up to all the things you have in your car. Then keep your old cluster if you ever wish to sell the car you can show them your old cluster and the ad that you bought the tomei cluster from so that you can prove the KM's your Z has.

Awesome! I should probably practice on the USDM cluster first. I will pm you my postal code for shipping.

[painter69]

I changed my cluster on my Z, cant remember what brand its also 320kmh canadain car,but didnt bother me that original had 83000 and new one 103000,never selling car anyway and like 300zxttman says if you keep your old one and decide to sell,you can always prove it, i woulndt worry about it

[Dattebayo]

Either way, when you swap out the cluster, you're going to have to make the exception on your title for *not actual* mileage because you've messed with the mileage period.

It won't be against the law if you admit it, tho. It might just affect the value of the car.

[TTkickedin]

Ive just figured out, the odometers can be swapped over, and recorded KM's can be reformatted to run recorded Miles. You only have to report the mileage change if you actually swap a cluster and have it read lower or higher mileage. But if you just swap over clusters and Odometer's and have them read the correct number, you won't have to say anything.