jdm 180sx with an rb26det??

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hey, i was thinking, first of all, does anyone know how much it would cost to legalize a 180sx from japan? and who could do that?

and the 2nd question is, would it be easier to fit in the rb26det engine in the 180 since its RHD?? i dont know much about this thats why im askin.


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the ever so common question. well the legalizing of the 180sx has its ups and downs. it would be cool to say you had a 180sx but the price doesnt outweight it. would almost be cheaper to convert to rhd. As far as the RB26DETT, yes it would be much easier for this being RHD but thats about $4500 for the hybrid setup (RB25 rwd transmission w/ rb26dett engine) then if you had someone do the work for you.

does the search feature not work on here or something? j/k

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not so long ago there was a post that had a sileighty with an RB26DETT

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hah oh yea search fucntion, forgot. sorry. hmmm so i guess its not worth it then huh? a friend of mine just got a 240 and already ordered an rb25det, which pisses me off cause he beat me too it. now the swap kinda lost its appeal to me. i like being original, especially in my area.

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Why not try an RB20? they have good potential as well and are cheaper.

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Nurv wrote: As far as the RB26DETT, yes it would be much easier for this being RHD but thats about $4500 for the hybrid setup (RB25 rwd transmission w/ rb26dett engine)


Where are you getting this price from? Most of the quotes i've gotten are over 6g's!!!

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3500 - 4000 for RB26 motor w/o transmission 500-800 or so for the RB25 transmission 250 w/ ecu

4500 sounds reasonable to me. I quoted on the highside of things but there are deals out there.

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Nismo_Freak wrote:3500 - 4000 for RB26 motor w/o transmission 500-800 or so for the RB25 transmission 250 w/ ecu

4500 sounds reasonable to me. I quoted on the highside of things but there are deals out there.


WHERE????I want those prices!

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Go shop around... or just ask me to get them for you sometime.

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ok if i get a jdm 240sx (180sx) then i will more than likely keep the sr20det thats in it. i was wondering though about how much it would cost to legalize a car like that. it shouldnt cost that much because its based off of a US 240.

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JDM Silvia and 180SX have not been legally reg in the us yet. Some one in FLA tryed and did get to and got the cars crushed... To get DOT and EPA would cost $40/50K buy the time you supply 3 cars for the crash test and the EPA...

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Unless you know how to do it via my means... If I imported it I could get a title, registration, and tags for it. However the inspection is up to you to get. We can have it inspected in Texas and that might hold you off for a year.

Email me if you are truely interested... [email protected]

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Like I said its been tryed and NO one has sussufully LEGALLY done it yet with DOT and EPA. There are some cars here but they have done thing like change the vin# from a a 240SX or claimed KIT car status.. The SR20DET RWD motor at least in CA. is not on the approved motor list for motor changes. If some one wanted to do what MOTOR X has done with the Skyline then they could Legally bring in the JDM Silvia and 180SX. The Honda cars have the same motors abailable in there US cars, but they have to upgrade crash bumper, door bars, windows and all smog equipment to US spec.

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i know this seems off topic with all of the legalization talk, but didn't someone on here say that thier friend did an rb26 swap and retained the 6spd? i think he said he did it by screwing with the ecu being as though the awd system is electronic, put one turbo on it and made it rwd with the OG transmission.. anyone remember this, can't seem to find it in the search.. :(

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Some have used the AWD trans and changed everthing else (oil pan,pickup ect). It will work but you carring around extra weight of the AWD trans not exactally a go fast combo..

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still the 240 body is still light and the awd will be an advantage for a high powered rb powered car. the traction would especially be beneficial.

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mightymouse0x wrote:still the 240 body is still light and the awd will be an advantage for a high powered rb powered car. the traction would especially be beneficial.


no he did away with the awd system by overriding it.. they are usually rwd.. i don't know anyone in america with an awd 240..

i dunno, i just thought that having a 6spd would be cooler than having the rb25's 5spd.. oh well, not like i'll ever have an rb26 anyway..:oface

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hah i know 240s are rwd, im just saying that awd would be an advantage for a light bodied car like that. hmm, im goin to see how much money something like this would cost, to get an awd and rb26 engine. i would have the money, it shoudltn be a problem, atleast i dont think so. anyone know if anyones has a done this? awd rb26?

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it's been speculated but i don't think anyone in the us has done it.. daunttless offered an AWD swap for about 10k-16k or something like that. still, it would kick ***, but i am sticking with the semi-economical route..

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your probably right, after id be done with a swap like that with the awd, i could have invested that money in an r32 skyline gtr. so i prob will not get the awd, hah, would be nice though.

since the back end is light and if u start makin serious power, what kind of things would help get traction, i tknow bigger stickier tires and suspension, but is their some kind of TCS or anything?

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The AWD is a $$$$$ project because of the complete differances of the two cars. Quick check puts the 1/2 shafts a real bad angle for effencent use of the AWD and they would present a constant problem. If some one wanted it we could invest some time doing a mock up and getting some real answers..

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if you want to import a car, check this out. this is the official DOT list of whats semi-legal and what is not.http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/

http://www.customs.gov/xp/cgov...d.xmlAutomobiles

Automobiles imported into the United States must meet the fuel-emission requirements of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the safety, bumper, and theft-prevention standards of the Department of Transportation (DOT). (Please see Customs pamphlets Importing a Car and Pleasure Boats.)

Trying to import a car that doesn't meet all the requirements can be a vexing experience. Here's why:

Almost all cars, vans, sport utility vehicles, and so on that are bought in foreign countries must be modified to meet American standards. Passenger vehicles that are imported on the condition that they be modified must be exported or destroyed if they are not modified acceptably.

And even if the car does meet all federal standards, it might be subject to additional EPA requirements, depending on what countries you drove it in. Or it could require a bond upon entry until the conditions for admission have been met. So before you even think about importing a car, you should call EPA and DOT for more information.

Information on importing vehicles can be obtained from the Environmental Protection Agency, Attn.: 6405J, Washington, DC 20460, telephone (202) 564-9660

, and the Department of Transportation, Office of Vehicle Safety Compliance (NEF 32) NHTSA, Washington, DC 20590.

Copies of the Customs Service's pamphlet Importing or Exporting a Car, can be obtained by writing to the U.S. Customs Service, P.O. Box 7407, Washington, DC 20044. EPA's Automotive Imports Fact Manual

can be obtained by writing to the Environmental Protection Agency, Washington, DC 20460. Cars being brought into the United States temporarily (for less than one year) are exempt from these restrictions.

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Seaney_55 wrote:i know this seems off topic with all of the legalization talk, but didn't someone on here say that thier friend did an rb26 swap and retained the 6spd? i think he said he did it by screwing with the ecu being as though the awd system is electronic, put one turbo on it and made it rwd with the OG transmission.. anyone remember this, can't seem to find it in the search.. :(


That's me.... Nothing was done to the ecu itself, but a few wires in the harness. It is in fact using the factory 5 speed tranni and 300z rear end.

As of now the car is down, due to body work (someone rear ended it @ a gas station 3 months ago). As soon as it's finished, i'll post pics. His brother is in Japan right now and is sending over a complete R34 engine (along with RB25det's,RB26dett, S14's & S15's), which he will be using to build up. He's shooting for solid 600whp.


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