Jamar Pinkney Jr death

[vikesfankevin1986]

Is anyone else following this case? I have been watching it on and off on In Session.
Basicly what happened is Jamar Pinkney Sr made his son strip down naked, march outside to an empty lot, kneel, and then shot him in the face. This was after the son admitted to "humping" his 3 year old sister. After the first inspection Drs. said there was no physical damage to the little girl. Whether or not this 15 year old boy raped his 3 year old sister, how is this not an open and shut case? I have heard the terms "honor killing" and he "just snapped."

Correct me if I'm wrong but premeditated murder can be if they only thought about it for a second or 2. So how is getting a gun, making him strip, marching him outside, making him kneel, and then shooting him anything other than murder 1? If he just snapped wouldn't he have shot him in the room they were talking in? Even if he did "just snap" why shouldn't he be locked up for life? What if he "just snaps" on someone else?

I am new to watching court cases but this seems pretty open and closed to me...

[stebo0728]

Thats not an honor killing, the honor killing would killing the 3 year old girl.

[AZhitman]

Simple case for me: Murder 1, capital punishment.

[vikesfankevin1986]

Verdict is in...Second degree murder.

[stebo0728]

Verdict is in...Second degree murder.

Then would you consider justice served?

[vikesfankevin1986]

It's hard to say. The family is ruined. I mean his son did rape his 3 year old sister. I think that alone is enough to kill someone. I just can't shake the fact that Jamar Sr. marched his son outside naked, made him kneel, and shot him in the face infront of his family. Both of those acts are worth being killed for or locked up for life in my book. I just feel bad for Jamar Jr's mother and the little girl.

[AZhitman]

Was it determined that she was raped?

Not that the kid is on trial here, but I'd think that'd be a mitigating / aggravating circumstance that would be taken into account.

Regardless, the dad-inflicted punishment was far beyond legal, obviously, and I can't see how this isn't M1.

[vikesfankevin1986]

When they first took the girl to the hospital they said there was no sign of sexual abuse. A few days later they took her to another place, I believe it was their family doctor. When he inspected the little girl he found a laceration. He said it had been healing but it was a deep laceration. The little girl complained of pain down there. Finally Jamar Jr. admitted to "humping" the little girl.

I think this is why it was murder 2. The defense wanted manslaughter so it looks like they hit a middle ground. Also 8 of the 10 on the jury, were women. Not sure if that makes a difference or not.

[AZhitman]

I'm sure it does. Regardless, after reading more articles on this, I think justice was served. Whether M1 or M2 with a max sentence, the end result (removing one who commits a heinous crime from society) is the same.

Watching the mother's statement was heart-wrenching. As a father of two daughters, I can certainly understand the pain and anger Sr. must have felt. But we are not animals, and I have faith in our judicial system. I can't say what I'd have done, but at the very least, even my own son would have had the law to contend with.

[wingFeather]

Setting aside the obvious conversations above, you have to wonder about the parents. What kind of life did they lead to raise such a child? And I don't understand how a father could kill his own son, no matter the crime. See him off to prison, yes, but shoot him? I don't understand.

[stebo0728]

Also 8 of the 10 on the jury, were women. Not sure if that makes a difference or not.

Could that truly be considered a "jury of his peers"? I dunno, im asking.

[AZhitman]

Setting aside the obvious conversations above, you have to wonder about the parents. What kind of life did they lead to raise such a child?

What do you mean, "such a child"? Although I don't condone the kid's behavior, and there's no question it's abhorrent, you'd be surprised at how common things like this are... I'm kinda wondering how you pin this on the parents at all.

He was a Black kid in Detroit from a broken home. I'm actually astounded the kid was in as little trouble as he was. IF you believe the "class-ists", he should have been in jail or dead long ago.

[stebo0728]

Setting aside the obvious conversations above, you have to wonder about the parents. What kind of life did they lead to raise such a child?

He was a Black kid in Detroit from a broken home.

I think that speaks volumes, broken home, and yes that is very rampant these days. Im currently entrenched in a divorce so I know, and I hate the hell out of it for my kids sake. Though the parents are surely not COMPLETELY to blame, shouldnt they at least shoulder some of the guilt? I dont know that you go as far as to bring criminal charges against parents of violent children, but theres certainly at least some degree of correlation there.

[vikesfankevin1986]

Everyone on both sides said he was a good father and that he loves his kids. He would stay up all night and play Madden with him, cook for him and go to his football games. The family seems less broken than other situations but maybe that's why he stayed out of trouble for the most part. Also I don't think the boys actions have anything to do with his upbringing. There has to be something wrong in your head if you want to do anything sexual with a 3 year old.

[stebo0728]

Everyone on both sides said he was a good father and that he loves his kids. He would stay up all night and play Madden with him, cook for him and go to his football games. The family seems less broken than other situations but maybe that's why he stayed out of trouble for the most part. Also I don't think the boys actions have anything to do with his upbringing. There has to be something wrong in your head if you want to do anything sexual with a 3 year old.

Thats also a good possibility. Not all parent take psychology to be able to spot things like that. But then people on the outside often times do have a slightly more positive perspective on situations like these. Theres no way to know what was going on during the hustle and bustle of every day family life, when others arent observing.