It is enough. I have searched and searched, please inform

[sanioll]

I've been asking and searching all over the place. Used google., FSM, there is no answer to it at all.

I'm trying to change my belts. I need reasonable step by steop instructions on how to change it on KA24DE S13 92 240SX SE.

FSM, doesn't give instructions on how to change them.

Reason i'm asking is becuase i have 0% knowledge about this.

Can someone point me in the direction, give me some pointers on how much time it takes, what tools to use, level of difficulty of screwing up your engine, etc...

======i change my own oil, transmission fluid, brakes, partial electrical + small repairs.======

[ddgsxr504]

Well everyone has to start somewhere so here we go. Replacing your belts is a fairly simple job. You will need the new belts (of course) a basic metric ratchet and socket set and equivialent metric sized wrenches, I'm not sure which size they were when I did mine. Take off your intake piping as to make more room, remove the fan shroud as this makes installation that much easier. Unless you have done this before I would also suggest removing the fan too unless you have the patience to snake the belts around the fan, it is easier this way. The power steering pump and alternator have adjustment bolts that tighten or loosen so you can adjust the belt tension. All it takes is a socket and ratchet and start loosing them up. You will be able to locate them easy enough. Then all you do is match the old belt size with the corresponding new one and reintall in reverse order that you removed. If you need more help let me know I will send you some example pictures.

[sanioll]

I truly appreciate it. It squeeks when engine is warm but running in an environment below 32 F. This might sound very simple to others, but I have never done this thing; thanks for answering.

So, simply make some room by removing regular stuff.

Use adjusting bolts to loosen the belts, then take out the old belt and put new one in and re tighten with up to the recommended point provided in FSM.

=================================================questions of a newbie:

What size of belts should i get?

What make are the best, or at least meet the oem specifications and quality?

Where can i get them? store? web site?

Can you provide a pic? Not necessary, but could be useful.=================================================

If i change it, I will do a complete DIY with detailed pictures and post it on NICO. Just like this one:

http://www.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=95826

[onosqv]

=================================================questions of a newbie:

What size of belts should i get?

What make are the best, or at least meet the oem specifications and quality?

Where can i get them? store? web site?

Can you provide a pic? Not necessary, but could be useful.=================================================

oem belts from dantech in advertiser's forum, or courtesynissan.com.

Or take your belts off, go to autozone or pep boys or wherever and tell them "i want these". Or you can try to read the model #, or go there and tell them what your car is and they'll know the stock replacement.

I personally like the goodyear gatorback belts, very sticky icky beefy.

[sanioll]

AND FINALLY, THIS IS HOW YOU CHANGE IT RIGHT: ?????

So, simply make some room by removing regular stuff.

Use adjusting bolts to loosen the belts, then take out the old belt and put new one in and re tighten with up to the recommended point provided in FSM.

[Ubernoober]

Correct

[eddiec]

aside from replacing the belts, another way of eliminating the belt squeak is with soap. use a bar of saop and while the motor is running rub the soap on the pulleys (be careful of that fan). it will of course spread itself around and knock the noise down.

about those adjusting bolts, for me the p.s. was the hardest to loosen up. i dont know if it was because of the hicas pump or what but it was a pain

[deviousKA]

aside from replacing the belts, another way of eliminating the belt squeak is with soap. use a bar of saop and while the motor is running rub the soap on the pulleys (be careful of that fan). it will of course spread itself around and knock the noise down.

about those adjusting bolts, for me the p.s. was the hardest to loosen up. i dont know if it was because of the hicas pump or what but it was a pain

That soap method is hardcore, haha, watch those fingers for sure. You can get that aerosol belt dressing from parts store, safe distance of fingers from running belts.

[sanioll]

i was grabbing an oil filter and brake pads at advance auto parts today.

guy other there said its helpful when 2 people do it. he said after making it loose, you gotta press down on tensioner or something and other person takes out the belt. WTF??

how often do we have to replace them anyway? every 50K??

i had the car for 3 years, and i dont think owner replaced them either.
Modified by sanioll at 3:31 AM 3/1/2005

[ddgsxr504]

Nevermind that jack@#$ he is refering to a serpintine belt system where you have only one belt that runs everything and a tensioner to keep it tight. On your car the power steering pump and alternator have adjutment screws that tighten the belt once you slip them on the pulleys. You can look at the belts and tell if they need replacing by looking for cracks or excessivey worn grooves and missing teeth on the inside of the belt. Anyway forget autozone! They are good for parts not tech advice on imports!!

[own3d]

Anyway forget autozone! They are good for parts not tech advice on imports!!

lol that reminds me of my friend when we were rebuilding his engine, went to autozone to get a rear main seal.

"hey i need a rear main seal for an 85 corvette"

"uhhh how many do you want"

"what, how many do you think"

"i dunno, how many do you want?"

"are you serious?"

"yeah, just tell me how many you want"

"how many are there on a chevy 350?"

as soon as the guy said "i dunno" again we both walked out laughing our asses off and never went back

autozone is teh gheyness

but about the belts dayco and delco are also good brands

[ddgsxr504]

I just went and got mine from the dealer.

[Red coupe]

AND FINALLY, THIS IS HOW YOU CHANGE IT RIGHT: ?????

pretty much but there is a bolt that the accesory rotates around as you adjust tension, and if it is to tight no matter how much you loosesn the tensioner bolt the accesory itself won't move so sometimes you need to loosesn the adjusting bolt and the mounting bolt if that makes sence to you...

[IveBeenBad]

Bring your car down to Roanoke and I'll change them for some Famous Anthony's Nachos

[ILikeMy240sx]

speaking of belts... where can I get one of those tools to measure how tight your belts are? Mine is starting to make squeaking noises at 3000 RPM and want to check if the belts are tight enough.

Thanx

[IveBeenBad]

speaking of belts... where can I get one of those tools to measure how tight your belts are? Mine is starting to make squeaking noises at 3000 RPM and want to check if the belts are tight enough.

Thanx

those tools are a ripoff. Take a ruler and lay it flat accross the belt then take another ruler and puush down on the belt with it, read how far you pushed the belt down on the second ruler using the first ruler as a reference point.

[sanioll]

you gotta apply 10 Kilograms/22pounds of downforce on it i believe.

confirmed, here:


Modified by sanioll at 3:41 AM 3/1/2005

[sanioll]

pretty much but there is a bolt that the accesory rotates around as you adjust tension, and if it is to tight no matter how much you loosesn the tensioner bolt the accesory itself won't move so sometimes you need to loosesn the adjusting bolt and the mounting bolt if that makes sence to you...

NOT REALLY, could you show in this pic?

[IveBeenBad]

you gotta apply 10 Kilograms/22pounds of downforce on it i believe.

confirmed, here:

Modified by sanioll at 3:41 AM 3/1/2005

ok, so you push with 22lbs of force... its a belt, not a freaking jet engine

[sanioll]

ok, so you push with 22lbs of force... its a belt, not a freaking jet engine

look at the pic above. IT IS FROM '92 S13 FSM.

[IveBeenBad]

look at the pic above. IT IS FROM '92 S13 FSM.

You dont get what I'm saying. It is a drivebelt, it doesn't need to be exactly on spec. All you are checking is to see if it moves a certain distance so that you know it wont come off... easy enough to eyeball... if it moves more than 1/2" tighten it a bit, but not so tight that its near breaking...

[sanioll]

I guess were a bit of perfectionists here when it comes to our 240s.

[IveBeenBad]

I guess were a bit of perfectionists here when it comes to our 240s.

*sigh* sure that explains all the half-assed jobs done around here.

[ddgsxr504]

I second that!

[Bronze MFP]

i don't know how you would measure how hard you are pushing down on a belt, but the FSM also lists deflection in MM and inches, I just got a tape measure out and eyeballed the deflection, just tighten the tensioner untill the belt will only move down as much as the FSM says, then tighten the lock bolt on the tensioner and you're done. works great.

sanioll, one of my belts used to squeak when it got cold outside. it was my alternator belt, it was so loose you could see it flapping up and down on the pulleys. its probably better to replace the belts, but you might be able to get away with just tightening them.

[sanioll]

I dont think it has been changed for at least 6 years.

I had the car for apprx 4 years now. and the lady who drove it, really dont believe changed it.

so its time, until its too late.

[sanioll]

ok, mine doesnt really squeak, but it does happen when its cold and engine is warm.

it happens when rpm falls below, when at idle at the traffic light; heater is on, and you try rolling down your windows; RPM falls down a bit as normal and belt/s start to squeak really loud, UNTIL i hit throttle and increase RPM above 2000. and it goes away. No squeaks until rpm goes down again, with electric resistance or somthing.

sucks. today i looked at it, looks like i'm getting belts from NISSAN and doing it when it warms up here.