Issue with my brakes

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So now when I drive my car I'm starting to hear a little squeak coming from my brakes when I come to a stop. Its just a small annoying squeak that happens every once in a while and lately it has been happening a little bit more.

I took my car to the local infiniti dealer to schedule an appointment for this upcoming Monday, and I asked the guy about how much it would cost and how indepth the job would be. He asked me how many miles were on the car and I told him a couple miles over 23k and he said the pads are to last to about 25k miles or so. My question is: Are the factory pads supposed to last that long?

Thanks for the help folks.


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What year is your G? It would be easier if you just put that info in your sig or "Car" field.

I'm surprised the brake pads lasted you that long! The ones on my I30 were getting replaced every 10-12k.

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You had them changed that often? Wow...

and thanks for the quick reply...

But, I'm gonna have them look at it and hopefully get everything sorted out.

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I had powerslot slotted rotors and Hawk HPS pads. Plus I was brutal to those brakes.


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infinitgkid wrote:So now when I drive my car I'm starting to hear a little squeak coming from my brakes when I come to a stop. Its just a small annoying squeak that happens every once in a while and lately it has been happening a little bit more.

I took my car to the local infiniti dealer to schedule an appointment for this upcoming Monday, and I asked the guy about how much it would cost and how indepth the job would be. He asked me how many miles were on the car and I told him a couple miles over 23k and he said the pads are to last to about 25k miles or so. My question is: Are the factory pads supposed to last that long?

Thanks for the help folks.
It depends how you drive and whether you have an automatic or stick?

I still have my original brakes but I do a lot of downshifting instead of using my brakes. I can actually drive 50 mi to work going thru 4 toll booths on the NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway without having to touch my brakes until I'm almost in the parking lot at work.

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oh ok, yeah I brake pretty hard at times. Between those unexpected pot-holes, crap in the road, and then the unexpected loose pets (happened last night).

One thing I'm also concerned about is the price of the job. I asked if the warranty would cover this and the service dept. rep told me that it might be depending on how indepth the job will be. He also added that if I had to cover any costs it would run me anywhere between $140 and $225.

I'm thinking that if the warranty won't cover the job, I might just head to Nissan down the street and see if they can do the same job but at a better price. Because ironically, Infiniti's prices are a little bit more than Nissans. For example, An oil change at Infiniti runs me about $40, where as at Nissan I save $4 for an oil change and they are using the same oil. Yeah, it's only $4 but you get my point...

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I think my G needs rear pads! I looked the other day and think i will be upgrading to ceramic pads for all 4 wheels very soon!

You can do the brakes yourself! I think we have a couple of write ups on the brakes??? Someone clarify this one for me!

If not I can do a write up and list all the tools that are needed.

I just looked yesterday at the cost of the pads for the front and the rear!

The ceramic pads i want are 42 bux for the front and 41 bux for the rear... So for under 100 bux you could do all your brakes.

I really don't think you will need to do any type of rotor cutting at only 23k miles so you are safe on that one!

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Just go do them yourself. 1 hr and $75 (unless your rotors need to be turned or replaced).

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I looked at mine today and they are still good for another 5k miles

Sorry about your luck... Did you do them yourself?

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Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT wrote:
I really don't think you will need to do any type of rotor cutting at only 23k miles so you are safe on that one!

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Infiniti Rotors aren't super durable. Make sure the rotors aren't scored, glazed or visibly warped.

My powerslots lasted through 3-4 sets of hawk pads. The Infiniti rotors lasted through 2.

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Infiniti rotors should be good for at least 2 turns before possibly needing replacement. This is highly unlike my wifes last Ford that needed new rotors with the first brake pad change because Ford skimped some cost by using thin rotors. My Maxima has had the rotors turned twice thus far and I still have the factory rotors after 139k miles.

The problem with a G and pads (usually rear) is the way VDC uses the brakes to stop tire spin. Not sure if they have changed that or not in newer versions tho I probably need to find out (I do turn VDC off anyway).

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If you're going to the dealer in a few days why did you post for help?

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uberOT wrote:If you're going to the dealer in a few days why did you post for help?
Well if you have read my post then you can answer your own question. But, I can see that you overlooked that part, so I'll just help you in understanding the purpose of my thread.

I was asking a question about the life of the brake pads on my G, and I was just seeing if the knowledge of the service dept rep was up to par with that of some of the people on this forum.

If my post for help somehow offends you, then my deepest apologies...

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Your post was not offensive. A legitimate question in my opinion.

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audtatious wrote:Infiniti rotors should be good for at least 2 turns before possibly needing replacement. This is highly unlike my wifes last Ford that needed new rotors with the first brake pad change because Ford skimped some cost by using thin rotors. My Maxima has had the rotors turned twice thus far and I still have the factory rotors after 139k miles.

The problem with a G and pads (usually rear) is the way VDC uses the brakes to stop tire spin. Not sure if they have changed that or not in newer versions tho I probably need to find out (I do turn VDC off anyway).
My 05 had the same rear brake problem. I guess the previous owner didn't believe in using the brake, just the engine, so at 47k it still had original pads and rotors, but he rears were half as thick as the fronts.

VDC and the fact that the rears are puny by comparison to the fronts both contribute to rear wear. If this was a FWD with the mass bias being in the front, then huge front brakes and puny rears would be ok, but in the case with the G that is nearly balanced front to back, I think they should have beefed up the rears (yes, I realize the center of mass shifts during negative acceleration).


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My wife's 2003 sedan started making the same noises you described and were even a little more pronounced on cornering. I knew the wear indicators were just starting to squeak. This is the time to replace the pads yourself for cheapo money - before the rotors get scored. I put EBC Green pads on the front myself for around $80. They've been on for a year and they're great - no more brake dust and better than factory. The rears are still original at 47k miles. My 2007 G35X only has 13k miles and I plan on doing the same as soon as it starts the squeak. Timing is everything to save yourself the expense of turning or replacing the brake rotors.

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you need new pads. but be smart. by the hawk hps pads on ebay and have a local shop install them. also make sure they turn your rotors.

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etschell wrote:you need new pads. but be smart. by the hawk hps pads on ebay and have a local shop install them. also make sure they turn your rotors.
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infinitgkid wrote:So now when I drive my car I'm starting to hear a little squeak coming from my brakes when I come to a stop. Its just a small annoying squeak that happens every once in a while and lately it has been happening a little bit more.

I took my car to the local infiniti dealer to schedule an appointment for this upcoming Monday, and I asked the guy about how much it would cost and how indepth the job would be. He asked me how many miles were on the car and I told him a couple miles over 23k and he said the pads are to last to about 25k miles or so. My question is: Are the factory pads supposed to last that long?

Thanks for the help folks.
First of all, I flog my car and I was able to get 18K on the front brakes--it was almost gone and I was measuring the wear with each oil change. The squeek you hear is a clear sign that the brakes are worn and they are gone---check the manual--I think it says something to this effect. Make sure they turn the rotors. You maybe able to get no more than two turns on that rotor before you will need to buy a new one. So, 23K on front brakes, isn't bad at all.

As for my rear brakes, I still have the factory rear brakes and I now have 27K + on my car. And I flog my car routinely.

So, what i have discovered so far, is that it will take two front brake replacements before i replace the rear brakes. I still have about 35 - 40% brakes left on my rear brakes--almost zero brake dust on my rear wheels--sometimes I wonder if my rear brakes are even touching the rotors.

By the way, for this to occur, you will almost exclusively be driving with the VDC-OFF. I drive 99% of the time with VDC-OFF.

What is strange is that when I first bought my car, my rear brakes were wearing much faster than the front ones, which I thought was odd. However, after installing a few modifications to my car, which has led me to routinely drive my car like I stole it, The wear reversed----fronts now wear out much faster than the rear ones.

Another weird thing I have discovered about the G-35 Coupe is that the car sips or saves gas when moving at high speeds and high RPMS in twisties and curves, compared to when you go the same speed and RPMS on a straightline. I can't explain this---maybe fuel tank was agitated while going through twisties and when it settles on a strightline, it gives me a more accurate reading.



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