Is this turbo the 'real thing' ...or a china doll ?

[dash]

Too cheap to be real, too much for a knockoff? Anyone using it ?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

[Zero260]

definitely a knock-off, I've never seen one that had the serial # put on the front of it like that. but that doesn't mean it's a total piece of crap, but it could be.

[nocwage]

If it's not a known manufacturer AVOID IT!!Especially if it says it's a 'GT' but isn't a garret.

[themadscientist]

smells Chinese to me.

[dash]

curious because of the price. Many folks out there boosting happily along with their $170 ebay t3/t4.... ya never know.

[nocwage]

curious because of the price. Many folks out there boosting happily along with their $170 ebay t3/t4.... ya never know.

USED T3/T4 maybe. Chinese fake turbo doubtful.

[Myetball]

They guy sells alot of XS Power turbos and wastegates. This one is definitely Chinese. It's not fake, I imagine a fake turbo would be made of plastic or wood. This is a real turbo, a knockoff but still a real turbo. Would probably work fine but no telling how long it would last.

[dattodude]

hmm.. I can't believe people even consider them. An intake wheel explosion without an intercooler will send large fragments through the engine. Of course if your intercooler has small channels, then you might get lucky as small bits of the compressor sneak past the valves.

$600 more for a reputable turbo and you will save $3000 of replacement engine parts. Cheap insurance I say.

[hayaimoto]

REMEMBER FOLKS, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR...sometimes in the end, you pay more for what you get. Im not talking crap about these turbo's but if you decide to buy them, I would atleast take apart the center cartidge to inspect what the hell it's made out of.

[dash]

tons of threads online of china turbo testimonials, many over 2 years still performing. I know of a handful firsthand.Quite a few starions see great results with ebay "T-70" @28psi pinning you hard in the seat.Impressive ca18/T-70 setups on ns.com that would smoke 95% of ours.500+hp toyota 4age uses ebay T-70 @29psi

The way I see it, even if you get 1 year out of a $2-300 turbo, you're ahead. Pay $1000 for a turbo and you'll be lucky to see half that if/when you upgrade a year later.

Lots of china turbos out there, working to change our perception.

[hayaimoto]

tons of threads online of china turbo testimonials, many over 2 years still performing. I know of a handful firsthand.Quite a few starions see great results with ebay "T-70" @28psi pinning you hard in the seat.Impressive ca18/T-70 setups on ns.com that would smoke 95% of ours.500+hp toyota 4age uses ebay T-70 @29psi

The way I see it, even if you get 1 year out of a $2-300 turbo, you're ahead. Pay $1000 for a turbo and you'll be lucky to see half that if/when you upgrade a year later.

Lots of china turbos out there, working to change our perception.

OK, Buy the China T25/T28 and let me know how it works.

[themadscientist]

Sorry, chinese products don't have my confidence. They can't even bother to put an on/off switch in my damned George Foreman grill!

[dash]

OK, Buy the China T25/T28 and let me know how it works.

I won't be experimenting with this t28, however I WILL buy the same t3/t4 and T-70, based on what I've seen/read them do *repeatedly*.

Stay away from all china stuff if ya like.... I'll ride the wave with so many others - can't let them have all the 'low dollar fun'

Pay for what you get ? Nope, hardly true, mostly brainwash talk.Fast, cheap, reliable.... you can only pick two ? ... more horse5hitThat only apply to those who can't *think* their way around it.

you'd think you would figure out from the mere existence of this thread that 'dash' ain't no guinea pig ? ....guess not.

Wondered if it was a 'china' ball-bearing turbo & if any users.

I posted a link a short while back of a 10sec fwd street corolla turbo 20V 1.8L... boosted by what? yep, ebay T04E @27psi.

Another ca18 powered street tire corolla runs 12.2 @115mph, still spinning thru 3rd. Ebay t3/t4 @16psi

Did they get what they paid for ? Explain how they didn't then.

[mat180]

anything with moving parts, such as this turbo, cannot be trusted to someone who has not done the r and d

my 2 cents

[ca18datsun510]

The way I see it, even if you get 1 year out of a $2-300 turbo, you're ahead. Pay $1000 for a turbo and you'll be lucky to see half that if/when you upgrade a year later.

Lots of china turbos out there, working to change our perception.

yeah if your lucky, when they fail it wont be major.

who wants chunks of chinese turbo going throught thier oiling system and chewing up bearings?

[johngriff]

GT28

The gt states, heh ball bearing.

Yet its a thrust bearing.

I dont know, balancing the wheels is kind of important.

I wouldnt go for it. You can throw all the write ups from starions at me you like, yay TBI. I also like to know the wheel specs on the turbos i purchase, and see flow charts, not just the housing sizes.

[rotorific]

The only thing good to come out of china is orange chicken from your local mall. (probally not even original)

-Gabe

[hayaimoto]

Dash, I think we all understand your point, Im not talking smack by any means, just go ahead and purchase your turbo, all of us here are just simply wishing you the best with your decision...thats all...

Oh yea and BTW... how did this thread go from talking about those T25/T28's to a debate about a T70?

[dash]

I've personally seen a couple turbos let go and send bits thru plumbing and/or oil system - one a garret bb, the other a precision.Also seen the nut back off two of the early ebay T-70 years ago.... and a couple garrets, a few rebuild/upgrades, etc.. Oh, did you think it was a 'chinese turbo' thing ?

griff,Starions have dyno 330-380+ ft-lbs tq to the tires.Some clever puerto ricans drive around fast street corollas with starion 2.6 motors= relatively inexpensive path to a 10sec import... and they will grin at a 100 shot if u wanna get wild. So, yay TBI!FYI none of the 2.6/T-70 discussed are TBI.Not about starions tho, as a mixed cross section of successes sampled.

While specs and compressor maps are useful, its still 'guesswork'.(I don't read compressor maps, probably never will - don't need 'em)What ever happen to bolting on a turbo ? exactly what the abovementioned 4/7agte, ca18, g54 have done. Results? Incredible!!Good enough for dash.

Real world results is where its at.

[ca18datsun510]

then why are you asking?

do it.

let us see the results.

[boost_boy]

Real world results is where its at.

This I do agree with. Just like I said about those ebay rods for $400ish, somebody give it a shot. It makes no sense for me to do it because all of my engines are right where I want them (At different mod levels) and my money is already well spent. But someone needs to step-up and test the crap out. I'm not donating a penny .

Dee

[Liquid_Neon]

Hell, im sick of spending $100-$200 on used turbos and not have them last that long anyway. Im pretty sure my SR T25 is starting to upchuck oil., i notice a lil smoke at wot. If i get a year out of a $170 T28, then i would be greatly saisfied.

PLUS, i wouldnt have to fight with any bolt or clean it up, since it would be new junk

So i might get a cheap T28 sumtime soon... we'll see.