is this the same gt32 that ams sells?

[98240]

T3 Style Turbo - (GT32) with GT Technology wheels and bearings (non ball bearing). GT Technology means more efficient wheel designs for better spool up and power than typical T3/T4 Turbos, .63 AR Exhaust, TO4E Compressor Housing, 48lbs/min, 480HP. - $650Same as above but 53lbs/min and 530HP - $650

[98240]

here is a linkhttp://www.hustlecoke.com/rand...e.jpg

[frsh13]

Im not sure if thats the same, but for $650 why not just buy the AMS GT32?

They support the org and most people on here only have good things to say about them!

+1 for AMS, I got my GT32 from them

[98240]

I would get it but they are out of stock. What I hear is the price is raising also.
Modified by 98240 at 2:44 PM 12/14/2006

[frsh13]

jeeez those AMS GT32's are selling like hot cakes.

[Jookmasta]

yup that's correct, there is going to be a steep price hike for the ams gt32...............pricing is near their gt35 from what i read. never heard of that site that u linked to tho.

[hannibal]

Where did you find that description? I really believe the AMS GT32 is the same as the Garrett GT32.

Ryan (klattr1) said the AMS version has a GT35 wheel in it, but the specs of the wheel he mentioned dont exist in Garrett's catalog. If it did have that wheel, it would just be a regular GT35 (I think).

Didnt hear about the price hikes... That sucks...

EDIT: just noticed you posted in the thread I mentioned. zerothread/197445As I said, I doubt they are the correct specs...

[98240]

http://www.jgy.cc/serg20/turbos.htm

this is where i found the description that is in this post

[hannibal]

If they say its made by Garrett (not a knockoff design), I would consider it.

So many guys have bought the AMS unit, but no one's seemed to ask (or has gotten straight answer) what makes it different from the standard variety.

[KATwo40]

I'm not understanding the price hike. Why are they makin' it nearly $1000?

Additionally, how can you hike the price on something that sells so quickly, you can't even keep it in stock?

Seems to me like a very strange viewpoint. Guess I won't be getting the AMS GT32 after all to replace my blown T3/T04E.

[daconkiftador]

Im not sure if thats the same, but for $650 why not just buy the AMS GT32?

They support the org and most people on here only have good things to say about them!

+1 for AMS, I got my GT32 from them

because if rumors are true and their prices are hiking upwards, than thats not supporting the org, thats more money in their pocket and less money/parts in mine. Im all for supporting NICO sponsered businesses, but hell im gonna buy wher-evers got the best price, especially if I knew what it was originally selling for.

[WDRacing]

IIRC, it flows less then the 50 trim TO4E compressor anyway...

[KATwo40]

IIRC, it flows less then the 50 trim TO4E compressor anyway...

The difference is 1lb/min. I'd trade off 500rpm of spool for 1lb/min.

However, I WON'T trade off an extra $400 or so for 500rpm of spool, catch me?

[240 GTR]

i tried asking ams what the specs of the turbos that they bought from garrett were. they didnt answer...

[GlacierFreeze]

because if rumors are true and their prices are hiking upwards, than thats not supporting the org, thats more money in their pocket and less money/parts in mine.

Supply and demand fluxuates prices man. And in the end, they're still running a business. Just because they're a sponsor or big in the 240/evo/whatever else scene doesn't mean they can't go up on prices or have to give us huge deals.

[S13FX]

Their prices maybe high but I gurantee you will not buy a product from them and not be satisfied. Also Thier customer support rocks. I brought something things in with me to them to help me out and they tried in every possible way.

Now back to the topic I think and don't quote me on this Im gooing to try and dig up the thread again. but I think what they do with the GT32 is they take them and switch out the Hotside wheel with something a lot more efficient thats why they see boost much quicker. They wouldnt make something cost more if there wasnt a reason for it. And now think about it if they let out thier secret completly what holds some one from copying them and taking buisness. Turbos are really something you can't pattent.

[WDRacing]

The GT32 is a Non ball bearing turbo correct? I doubt its 500rpm of spool time. If AMS says it is, I'd lend some of that spool time to an equal length manifold made by AMS.

WD

[98240]

I'm not understanding the price hike. Why are they makin' it nearly $1000?

Additionally, how can you hike the price on something that sells so quickly, you can't even keep it in stock?

Seems to me like a very strange viewpoint. Guess I won't be getting the AMS GT32 after all to replace my blown T3/T04E.

I feel the same way. I had been saving up for the turbo then I get slapped in the face by the price hike buzz. Although I would love to have the turbo I cant find myself paying that much for it. That is why I am looking for alternatives.

[hannibal]

Yep, its non BB.

I cant understand how guys buy the AMS GT32 without knowing the specs. Thats like buying a 'T3/T4 turbo' off Ebay.

[Chezedik]

Not quite, the ebay turbo has the same specs as a Garrett, costs $250, and has survived two cross country trips in my friends Acura with NO problems. I wouldn't be shy about buying one, after having taken one apart.

[WDRacing]

I think what he means is that the specs are often wrong when posted on EBAY....not the turbo being a POS. I've seen those idiots butcher ads for turbo's. You can tell they target the noobs or Fast&Furious croud. Using words like Super before everything just sounds SUPER QUEER...lol. Ultra Super Fast Spooling...hello, you're advertising a T70 for a Honda...there isn't going to be ANY spool let alone fast.

I'd use a EBAY turbo...hell, everyone else is. I bought a Garrett from Phoenix turbo, they used a knock off shaft assembly, damn thing takes different size seals so I can't even rebuild it, of course they can rebuild it...I sure hope that company doesn't have a HUGE fire any time soon.

Not that I'm bitter...

[Chezedik]

Word! (Nick sounding Whitemuch?)

[klattr1]

Ryan (klattr1) said the AMS version has a GT35 wheel in it, but the specs of the wheel he mentioned dont exist in Garrett's catalog. If it did have that wheel, it would just be a regular GT35 (I think).

I was referring to the AMS GT35, not the GT32...sorry for the confusion.

[WDRacing]

No worries Ryan...feel free to quit being a stranger bro...take a break from the O. R. G. and swing by here more often.

WD

[daconkiftador]

Supply and demand fluxuates prices man. And in the end, they're still running a business. Just because they're a sponsor or big in the 240/evo/whatever else scene doesn't mean they can't go up on prices or have to give us huge deals.

thats why right after saying that I said:

"Im all for supporting NICO sponsered businesses, but hell im gonna buy wher-evers got the best price, especially if I knew what it was originally selling for."

Its just like this other turbo site, yes they raised their price on their T3/T4 Hybrids but it also said "Please contact us for a better price". I called them up asking about the price increase and they said "supply and demand" has made the price go up, but for the people who originally wanted to purchase this turbocharger prior, we'l still sell it it at the original price.

Also, it was a good point, if they cant even keep this turbocharger instock, why raise the price? Im not just trying to talk total crap on AMS, but my friend waited weeks on weeks for his ka rods(that he was already charged for) to come 'in-stock', even tho a couple weeks later they listed a "sale" on these same ka rods they still didnt even have in.

[Chris@AMS]

I'm just now finding this thread and I would like to set the record straight on a few things.

1- We get charged more from the manufacturer for the turbo, so in turn we raised our price. I gaurantee the same amount we raised our price is the same amount they are charging us extra. We are not, nor will we ever, jump a product $200 in price in order to make more profit.

2- The rods you are referring to in the post above were on backorder. We took every chance we had to keep people updated on their order status. It was out of our control as we were waiting for the product to arrive for us.

Once the price was lowered, we did have the rods.

3- As far as specifications, you are right, we didn't release them. I won't release them for any turbo that we support. Here is your reason why.

Every time we put all of the R&D into testing various combinations we post up the pertinent info for everyone to see. If someone wants one of our engineered products, all they have to do is pick up the phone and give us a call.

We are not in the business so that everyone can steal our R&D and sell it for $50 cheaper than us to make a quick buck.

Here is a compressor map for the GT32, although I doubt it matters anymore. These things are way expensive now.

[Jookmasta]

so um any word as to what yall will be using to replace the beloved gt32? it truly was the 50 trim basher............

[Chris@AMS]

so um any word as to what yall will be using to replace the beloved gt32? it truly was the 50 trim basher............

If you check out the turbo kit thread here:zerothread?id=223621

I have the 'GT33' intial dyno results posted up.

[red boy]

Hell I paid $549.00 for the first AMS rods, then watched the price drop. Correct me if im wrong, but can't you get a BB turbo for around $1200

[eazye2000]

......Correct me if im wrong, but can't you get a BB turbo for around $1200

$1299

http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo....html