Is this normal for KA's to run this?

[Clearalbino]

Alright, So I headed over to the track to see what kind of times my car was running, this is what I got

60' 2.345330-6.9411/8-10.733MPH-64.29

1/4-16.778MPH-80.90

Car as follows

1995 S14

Engine-

Injen CAIguttet catalytic2.5 inch magnaflow exhaustplugs, wires, o2 sensor, basic mantaince

Suspension, tires, driveterrainKYB AGX with Eibach Pro-kitFalken ST-115J30 VLSD

[naed240sx]

Nope. That's terrible. What rpm point were you shifting at?

[gizzerd]

Hmm....auto or manual? I ran a 15.9 in my sohc S13, with only a few basic mods and good suspension. I would think you would be running a better time than me for sure, but I've never driven an S14. Hopefully somebody can chime in with a little better info for ya!

[Ezzo]

Few more determining factors, Did you buy the car used? Did you know the previous owner? or the condition of the KA before you bought it?

Before you started putting aftermarket parts on it, what kind of maintenance did you do on it? have you compression tested it yet? How’s the condition of your clutch? (if your a 5speed)

Aside from mechanical problems, it could just be you. What RPM were you launching/shifting at? Did you get many passes? Was it your first time on that track?

There’s a million reasons you could add or lose a second or two when your taking street cars to the track. Just narrow it all down.

[naed240sx]

Few more determining factors, Did you buy the car used? Did you know the previous owner? or the condition of the KA before you bought it?

Before you started putting aftermarket parts on it, what kind of maintenance did you do on it? have you compression tested it yet? How’s the condition of your clutch? (if your a 5speed)

Aside from mechanical problems, it could just be you. What RPM were you launching/shifting at? Did you get many passes? Was it your first time on that track?

There’s a million reasons you could add or lose a second or two when your taking street cars to the track. Just narrow it all down.

[BlackHat]

Did you have stickers on your car? That's gotta be at least 2 seconds...

I agree with above, adding stuff can be tempting and REAL easy compared to fine combing your setup. Making sure everything is running great first is always less exciting then adding new stuff.

[180fastback]

or just slow reaction to the light or just plain and simply the dude cant drive

[TheOne]

thats quite bad, i ran my S13 with worn tires, about to blowup headgasket and messed up suspension and ran a 10.5 in the 8th mile.(haven't ran quarter yet)

[racin-type]

I ran a 16.1, forgot what trap speed was. 95 s14, with only suspension and wheel/tire.

probably coulda gotten a 15.9 if i can launch better.

launched around 3k, tried 3 times. 1 bog, 1 spun slightly

[Nismo1182]

Thats a bad 60' and a low mph. I'd compression test that motor.

or just slow reaction to the light or just plain and simply the dude cant drive

Reaction time does not affect E.T

[BIGT94z]

Reaction time does not affect E.T

finally a smart person...you can get out check ur tire pressure get back it and run the 1/4 rt does not do jack for ur 1/4 time....i ran a 15.6 on my auto 95 240sx with header/intake/2.5 exhaust/ denso plugs/ crappy hancook all season v4's....my slowest run with my 5 speed was a 15.46 with a 0-60 at 2.3

[ddgsxr504]

I am thinking a compression check is in order as well.

I have a slew of parts on my S14 so I run 15.0-15.1 but I am pretty sure stock 1/4 mile times for an S14 should be around 15.7 or so.


Modified by ddgsxr504 at 3:08 PM 6/8/2006

[SeanC]

my s13 with 3" exhaust ran a 16.1 my first time with street tires. at 84 or 85 mph

[BIGT94z]

my s13 with 3" exhaust ran a 16.1 my first time with street tires. at 84 or 85 mph

my worst run was in the 16's bc my 0=60 blowed but my trap speed was still 88 and some change

[BIGT94z]

I have a slew of parts on my S14 so I run 15.1-15.2 but I am pretty sure stock 1/4 mile times for an S14 should be around 15.7 or so.

whats all done 2 your s14?

[slickster1013]

I brought my 93 coupe, 5speed, to the track and ran a 15.9 twice in it, and all i have done is an injen intake a muffler, that's it. On street tires and everything. Guess i'm just a good driver....lol

[BIGT94z]

ur track time depends on ur 0-60 ft times....i ran a 16.0 with a 2.49 with a 2.39 i ran a 15.42....it all depends on ur launch if u dont have a good one u will have a sucky run....simple as that

[ddgsxr504]

whats all done 2 your s14?

Port & Polished HeadJWT Cams & Tuned ECUInjen CAIHotshot Header2.5" Test Pipe3" Apexi N1 ExhaustBosch Platinum PlugsAccell 8.5mm WiresFidanza Aluminum FlywheelOEM Exedy ClutchOBX Short ShifterStainless Braided Clutch Line

Just a few off the top of my head.

[BIGT94z]

how ur like ur accell wires i just ordered some from partandaccesories.com the other day...should be here tuesday

[ddgsxr504]

how ur like ur accell wires i just ordered some from partandaccesories.com the other day...should be here tuesday

Don't really notice that much difference on the butt dyno but Im sure they are providing better spark than the stock 7mm wires. Plus I wanted red wires and thought that paying over $100 for some Nology or other types was ludacris since I'm not boostin.

[BIGT94z]

same witm me...however i had nologys and the dyno numbers wire less 150.3 than the stock wires for me (151.3)....the nologys are proven not to work....u lose spark in the ground strap

[mazdaman]

Port & Polished HeadJWT Cams & Tuned ECUInjen CAIHotshot Header2.5" Test Pipe3" Apexi N1 ExhaustBosch Platinum PlugsAccell 8.5mm WiresFidanza Aluminum FlywheelOEM Exedy ClutchOBX Short ShifterStainless Braided Clutch Line

Just a few off the top of my head.

If stock times are 15.7 for S14 and these are your mods and you're only a 15.1 at best...... What am I missing here??

[ddgsxr504]

If stock times are 15.7 for S14 and these are your mods and you're only a 15.1 at best...... What am I missing here??

I have run a 14.9 once but I wasn't driving the hardest I could. What your missing is the fact that all those mods only put my car at 168hp and 154 ft lbs at the wheels, not to mention that my Zenki has 167,000+ miles on her. To make that clear NA/KA's suck to make power unless you are boostin.

Also I have no LSD of any kind.


Modified by ddgsxr504 at 3:14 PM 6/8/2006

[BIGT94z]

i ran a 15.78 yesterday and i have intake,accell wires, ngk plugs, header, exhaust plus i have 135 on the clock...no lsd a 14.9 is really good all motor for a 240sx...i do not beleive that a stock s14 runs 15.7's (probaly a professional driver cough cough) which we are not...so id say a good driver in a stock s14 could do 15.9-16 ish

[john_t]

I think you're pretty much dead on. I have a 1995 with a curb weight of 2832 (I'd never part with the sunroof). Not an SE, it's a stick. It does have a new clutch, and it's been rebuilt once, with no performance engine parts thrown in. I typically run 16.0's or 16.1's all day with almost NO variability. The fastest I've run was a 15.8 on a nice cool day in October with a great batch of fuel (all of a gallon and a half in the tank and no spare tire). I guess somebody could just have that really responsive ka that happens to randomly make an extra 10hp, but that isn't gonna bring times down much at all. That being said, I took my mother's (shoosh! don't tell on me) 92 coupe to the HS drags once, and while it felt quicker, the times were almost identical accross the board. I imagine with a nice breeze behind your back, you might get a tenth or so quicker:) I think that pretty much all the 240's I've seen out there there were admittedly bone stock pretty much ran low 16's with an occassional high 15.

[BIGT94z]

thank you john_t! so i take it u have been to kcir then? i totally agree with the temp. factor the track was 120 and the regular temp was 92. hopefully next time i go it will be cooler but i doubt it

[mazdaman]

I have run a 14.9 once but I wasn't driving the hardest I could. What your missing is the fact that all those mods only put my car at 168hp and 154 ft lbs at the wheels, not to mention that my Zenki has 167,000+ miles on her. To make that clear NA/KA's suck to make power unless you are boostin.

Also I have no LSD of any kind.

This is a bit disappointing to me.... I am not bashing you or nothing, don't get me wrong here... But this bites.. What's the car's weight? Could it be these motors don't respond well to upgrades? I am looking into a KA24DE swap as opposed to a JDM route..

Should I re-think my gameplan?

[naed240sx]

I have run a 14.9 once but I wasn't driving the hardest I could. What your missing is the fact that all those mods only put my car at 168hp and 154 ft lbs at the wheels, not to mention that my Zenki has 167,000+ miles on her. To make that clear NA/KA's suck to make power unless you are boostin.

Can you post a dyno?

[BIGT94z]

168hp and 154 ft

whys ur torque so low my dyno was 153.2 hp and 164.8 ft

[ddgsxr504]

whys ur torque so low my dyno was 153.2 hp and 164.8 ft

I could have my numbers mixed up. I might be quoting my numbers from before the port and polish. It has been so long. I am not really infatuated with HP/TQ. I quit adding power mods to my car like almost 3 years ago.

Can you post a dyno?

I'll try and find it. The last time I dynoed my Zenki at the end of 2003. I'm sure it's with my other paperwork. I'll post back if I find it or not. I dynoed it at Dynamic Autosport in Irvine, CA.