Is this a Shiro? It says 1987

[HashiriyaS14]

This guy is selling what looks to me to be a Shiro Z, which means I want it. Now, the listing says 1987, and the interior doesn't appear to be a Shiro Z interior (looks lighter in color through the windshield).

Was there another "all-white" Z in 1987? I thought the Shiro was only 1988. This guy is local to me, and I'm really interested in it if it is in fact a Shiro, so can anyone help me out here?

Here's the link to the ebay auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

[AZ-ZBum]

http://www.az-zbum.com/informa...shtmlh ... ry/SSZ.htm

[HashiriyaS14]

http://www.az-zbum.com/informa...shtmlh ... ry/SSZ.htm

No disrespect intended, but I've read those pages, which is why I'm asking the question. AFAIK (and according to those pages), the Shiro was 1988 only, and came with a black interior.

This individual's car comes with a tan interior, and has 1987 listed as the year on the title.

Facts would point to this being an '87 Turbo that has been "Shiro-ed up" to look like a real one, however the owner has owned the car since 1988, and mentioned no such modifications. It is possible then, that the dealer painted/modified the car to look like a Shiro, but this seems odd to me as this car is OLDER than the Shiros, and so how would the dealers know what to do?

Has anyone heard of another all-white special edition that is NOT a Shiro? This car appears to be something of a conundrum, hopefully I can go look at it in person, but I'm not sure if that will answer my questions.

[AZ-ZBum]

No disrespect intended, but I've read those pages, which is why I'm asking the question. AFAIK (and according to those pages), the Shiro was 1988 only, and came with a black interior.

If you read those pages, then you should know that there is no question. It's printed crystal clear.

This individual's car comes with a tan interior, and has 1987 listed as the year on the title.

Well, if the car is a 1987 model with tan interior, and the SS is only made in 1988 and only comes with a black interior, then the car in question obviously isn't an SS

Facts would point to this being an '87 Turbo that has been "Shiro-ed up" to look like a real one, however the owner has owned the car since 1988, and mentioned no such modifications. It is possible then, that the dealer painted/modified the car to look like a Shiro, but this seems odd to me as this car is OLDER than the Shiros, and so how would the dealers know what to do?

Has anyone heard of another all-white special edition that is NOT a Shiro? This car appears to be something of a conundrum, hopefully I can go look at it in person, but I'm not sure if that will answer my questions.

White was a basic color option. The car hasn't been "Shiro'ed up". It's a white car. Nothing special. All year Z31s were available in white paint.

There are only two special edition Z31s. The 1984 50th Anniversary Edition and the 1988 Shiro Special Edition. Anything else is a dealer scam to get more money from unsuspecting buyers. Those buyers propogate the "specialness" of the vehicle because they don't know any better.

[lilskyline240]

is the car even turbo??? there is no hoodscoop

[AZ-ZBum]

is the car even turbo??? there is no hoodscoop

hoodscoop was only on the 84 and 85 turbos.

[lilskyline240]

yeah i realized that after i wrote it....lol....im used to seein the hoodscoop on my 84 everyday

[nsrZ32]

If you read those pages, then you should know that there is no question. It's printed crystal clear.Well, if the car is a 1987 model with tan interior, and the SS is only made in 1988 and only comes with a black interior, then the car in question obviously isn't an SSWhite was a basic color option. The car hasn't been "Shiro'ed up". It's a white car. Nothing special. All year Z31s were available in white paint.

There are only two special edition Z31s. The 1984 50th Anniversary Edition and the 1988 Shiro Special Edition. Anything else is a dealer scam to get more money from unsuspecting buyers. Those buyers propogate the "specialness" of the vehicle because they don't know any better.

Wow man. Way to be rude and only add to that stigma that Z owners are uppity jerks. Big difference between being helpful and being an idiot. Dude was just asking a simple question.

So no, its not a Shiro...as simple as that.

[evildky]

there does happen to be a true shior on beay that is in fact local to me right nowhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...WA:ITit's a decent car but when you see it in person it's not so nice, the left rear quarter behind the antenna has been chipped out and filled and chipped back out, the area below the fuel door is badly discolored, the nose has been repainted and currently has a scuff on the right front corner and the left rear bumper is scuffed as well, and the drivers seat is gonna need new bolster foam, and the lady thinks it's worth 7k, with 130k milescould be a decent car but not for the kind of money she wants, I suspect if it does magically sell the buyer will not be happy when he sees the car in person

[HashiriyaS14]

The reason why I pressed the question once you had referred me to the pages was that the car looks more like a Shiro Z than a normal, white '87 Turbo. The Shiros had white trim in extra places (i.e. sideskirts and front lip) and they also had the white rims.

Real Shiro:

Normal '87 Turbo:

Car in Question:

Obviously, the car in question looks more like an '88 SS than it looks like a normal white '87 Turbo, hence the confusion. In addition, the seller's affirmation that it was a "special all-white edition" Z made me think that perhaps some dealer had done some trim repainting and created their own "special edition" at some point, and thus I was asking if anyone else had ever seen an '87 done up like this. That's all.

[AZ-ZBum]

The only thing that is different than the way that car left the factory is the painted white wheels.

It is missing the euro front spoiler and the black interior.

I guess those two things are just more obvious to someone who knows the Z31 a little better.

[Spdstr280Z]

FWIW, I have seen the twin of the auction car, except in an automatic. I chased him down a while back to give him a car show flyer. I thought it was a Shiro until the moment I saw the interior. The guy I talked to wasn't knowledgeable as to what it was, but had been told by the PO that it was as special edition. Same car though, all painted white wheels and trim, tan interior digi dash, etc...

May have been a combination of options, but I don't remember the white wheels being available.

Jason

[AZ-ZBum]

I call them dealership markup for profit specials. They were models that were slightly modified by the dealerships to give them more profit when selling. They aren't special in any way except that some poor sap paid too much for it when they bought it at the dealership new.

White paint is not hard to come by.

[AZhitman]

^ Good info.

As more and more of our cars reach "classic" staus, it's important that we be able to distinguish the TRUE collectibles from the poser-mobiles.