Is this a good buy?!

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Sorry if this is in the wrong section! I didn't see any "Buy/Sell" or I'm just blind.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale ... 9201&Log=0

I was curious god willing that link works haha, is this a good buy? Assuming the carfax is free of accidents?

If it's not, do you have any tips for talking down the dealer? Being someone who is looking to buy a g35 I really have no idea how to talk them down, if even possible. For all I know this could be a steal, judging by a lot of the 100k+ Mile g's out there for not much cheaper.


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According to KBB it's resale value is $16,974 in excellent condition so that price seems OK. Pull the VIN and check with an Infiniti dealership for any maintenance records. Hopefully it's been well maintained.

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Insist on an independent inspection by a competent, trustworthy mechanic who is familiar with Infiniti or Nissan products. If the seller won't agree, no deal.

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Awesome thanks so much for the help guys!

Now how exactly do I go about getting a mechanic to look at the car? Am I supposed to drive it off their lot without signing anything or have the mechanic come there?

Ahaha sorry I've just never bought a car from a dealership!

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audtatious wrote:According to KBB it's resale value is $16,974 in excellent condition so that price seems OK. Pull the VIN and check with an Infiniti dealership for any maintenance records. Hopefully it's been well maintained.
Also! Do I go ahead and call and ask for the records by phone or should I be driving to one?

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I'd drop by the Infiniti dealership (Service area) with the VIN and explain you are looking to purchase the car and would like to know of any records they have. If they won't help (for whatever legal or confidential reason) then have the owner/dealership call and have Infiniti fax/email them the records on "their" car.

Dealerships should have no issue with you taking the car to Infiniti for an inspection.

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audtatious wrote:I'd drop by the Infiniti dealership (Service area) with the VIN and explain you are looking to purchase the car and would like to know of any records they have. If they won't help (for whatever legal or confidential reason) then have the owner/dealership call and have Infiniti fax/email them the records on "their" car.

Dealerships should have no issue with you taking the car to Infiniti for an inspection.

Thanks so much! I REALLY appreciate it :) Can't tell you how much you guys have helped.

Any last tips you'd like to give me? Should I not talk the dealer down if that car is in excellent condition? What if the carfax comes back with a very "minor" accident?

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Always try and talk them down. I would look over the car very well even if carfax didn't report anything. Look under the trunk mats for obvious signs of repair, under the hood, etc.

If the car had a minor accident then I would not worry much. Fenders and such are usually not a bid deal. Now, when it comes to a larger accident where there was actual structural damage I would shy away.

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audtatious wrote:Always try and talk them down. I would look over the car very well even if carfax didn't report anything. Look under the trunk mats for obvious signs of repair, under the hood, etc.

If the car had a minor accident then I would not worry much. Fenders and such are usually not a bid deal. Now, when it comes to a larger accident where there was actual structural damage I would shy away.
AWESOME! I was just at my mechanic getting my converter replaced he told me the exact same thing.

As for talking down, any tips? HAHA! I can't stand that kind of confrontation it makes me feel so bad lol. What are the most common ways of negotiating prices or does it vary with every car?

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Look at the car, take it for a drive....Then offer them 13k for it "assuming it checks out mechanically". They either accept or counter offer. If they counter offer you either accept or re-counter offer. There should be NO pressure and if they start trying to pressure you into it just tell them "you know, I'm just going to think about it a bit" and leave. The last thing they want is for you to walk out the door. Also, don't discuss down payments or financing until you have a agreement for cost.

Don't get riled up. You can always walk away.

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audtatious wrote:Look at the car, take it for a drive....Then offer them 13k for it "assuming it checks out mechanically". They either accept or counter offer. If they counter offer you either accept or re-counter offer. There should be NO pressure and if they start trying to pressure you into it just tell them "you know, I'm just going to think about it a bit" and leave. The last thing they want is for you to walk out the door. Also, don't discuss down payments or financing until you have a agreement for cost.

Don't get riled up. You can always walk away.

Audtatious...... You sir are the man, or woman. Thanks so much for all of your help! I never woulda thought to drop down to 13k right off the bat hahah! If I need anything else I will be messaging you if you don't mind of course. Again, thank you soooooooo much.

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Imma dude

When you go to look at it and negotiate be prepared to go home without it. The problem when some people find a car they love is some dealerships will get them to overspend because of it. Be prepared to say no and leave. I don't care if they have spent hours doing paperwork, if the deal sux then leave.

If possible, get pre-approved for a loan via a credit union or even your bank. That way you know what the worst percentage rate you can get is and it would be up to them to see if they can beat it.

Don't accept any add-on's like extended warranties and the like. If you decide to get a Nissan extended warranty afterwards you can get one yourself and avoid paying for the dealers cut.

Check your credit score as well before you go.

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audtatious wrote:Imma dude

When you go to look at it and negotiate be prepared to go home without it. The problem when some people find a car they love is some dealerships will get them to overspend because of it. Be prepared to say no and leave. I don't care if they have spent hours doing paperwork, if the deal sux then leave.

If possible, get pre-approved for a loan via a credit union or even your bank. That way you know what the worst percentage rate you can get is and it would be up to them to see if they can beat it.

Don't accept any add-on's like extended warranties and the like. If you decide to get a Nissan extended warranty afterwards you can get one yourself and avoid paying for the dealers cut.

Check your credit score as well before you go.

Awesome that sounds perfect! Now seeing as their price is 14,488 and the KBB is around 16.8 what would you say is a "sucky deal"? I figure there's already a deal according to the KBB so in your opinion, what would be the least I should take? Of course it's all up to me but I do value your opinion and would like to know since this is my first time and all.

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Their price is below resale so even paying their asking price is not bad assuming the car is in excellent condition with no problems. If the dealership wants to sell the car then they will come down on their price. Granted, this may not always be the case as I experienced with the wife's sedan. In that case the car had sat on their lot for too long and they even showed me what they purchased the car for. They may have broken even on the car but I got a great deal as they needed to move it for fresh stock ('07 G35s fully loaded at 40k miles for $21k..this was in early 2009 so the car was only 2 years old).

Deals can be had. Even if you do decide to pay their asking price (which should not be the case if you haggle) make sure they are not adding crap you don't need to the sale. Also re-read the contract(s) before you sign it. Some dealerships here got in trouble for switching contracts right before they were signed which screwed a bunch of people.

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