Is there any way increase MPG for M45?

[ken in az]

I bet m56 will be slower then my frieds IS-F [email protected] number is real.do the serch and see who can beat in its class. please dont you gt-r. it is almost race car.we are talking 4 door onces.m3 slower, amg is slower.do the serch again.

Case in point - "your friends" lexus...wouldn't happen to be a girl now would it? Only IS-F driver I know is my buddies wife...seriously I'm not kidding either.

the IS is a chick car - albeit a fast one but none the less a chick car.

And the M56 will most undoubtably not be faster than an IS-F nor an M3 but I guarontee that I'd rather have the M56 for an everyday driver than either of those 2 cars. M56 we salute you!

[saeedakobiakov]

dude, wtf?

again is- f went 117.20 mph in 1/4 vs. 113 for amg and 111 for m3. first link.second link 114 for m3 what you dont understand?do you understand what 3 mpg faster in the 1/4 means?obviously not.looks like you never been to the track or know anything about 1/4 mile.read up or talk to somebody that raced.

[saeedakobiakov]

drive one some time when you a chance, you will not want to drive yours.

[fiveliterbeater]

again is- f went 117.20 mph in 1/4 vs. 113 for amg and 111 for m3. first link.

....wow...im on a roll 2day and you're my victim! i love it!

here you go since reading isn't your forte: http://www.motortrend.com/road....html

or better yet, let me type it, just in case you're 1/4 mile challenged

12.7 sec @ 111.3 mph (AMG) 12.7 sec @ 113.4 mph (IS-F) 12.5 sec @ 113.5 mph (M3)

second link 114 for m3 what you dont understand?

uhhhh 2nd link doesn't provide any times dufus, just a quick comparison....but what the heck...lemme quote the site anyway. gotta be nice to the mentally slow

" Predictably, the IS-F came in last, not all that surprising considering the other competitors’ performance-brand history, not to mention how fantastic both these new versions of the M3 and C63 are.

As the article is quick to point out, this is only Lexus’ first effort in the super-sedan category, and there’s significant tuning and improvements that will need to be made. "

do you understand what 3 mpg faster in the 1/4 means?obviously not.

i don't know what 3 "MPG" faster in the 1/4 means, but i can take a wild stabb at it! does that mean the IS-F is not only slower than an M3, but it also uses up 3 "Miles Per Gallon" more than the BMW?

looks like you never been to the track or know anything about 1/4 mile.read up or talk to somebody that raced.

...actually, i think you're doing a good job proving to everyone else that you're just making an a$$ out of yourself by not reading up on your cars. clearly you have no buisness talking about cars, nor should you even be seen next to one for that matter....

and on top of all that you're defending a car that you don't even own and you're starting to sound like......well.....let's just leave it at that.....i think i've spanked you hard enough for one day.....

...or haven't i?

p.s. it's flied rice you plick! Modified by fiveliterbeater at 8:38 PM 11/9/2009
Modified by fiveliterbeater at 9:49 PM 11/9/2009

[fiveliterbeater]

drive one some time when you a chance, you will not want to drive yours.

been there...done that.....besides, why spend all that money on just a Toyota?

[StevenRogers]

tee hee. this got off topic real quick. comparing full size lux to an altezza. a new topic should be opened where we compare the gs to the m. then at least itd be a more fair comparison.

is, tsx, 3 series, c class, g. gs, tl, 5 series, e class. come on guys, we know which category our cars in.

i like the is, but they were just to small for what we needed in a sedan.

is350 28 mp, really, im not to sure about that one, when their light weight tacoma v6 barely gets as good mpg as their full size tundra v8 counterpart.

anyways, change your oil on time, keep your foot off the floor when pushing down on the pedal, pop the car in neutral when possible (almost instinctive if youre used to driving a standard) and stamp dimples into your cars sheetmetal, like on mythbusters.

[M45Runner]

I bet m56 will be slower then my frieds IS-F [email protected] number is real.do the serch and see who can beat in its class. please dont you gt-r. it is almost race car.we are talking 4 door onces.m3 slower, amg is slower.do the serch again.

gs 460, i said

You were talking about GS460, that is a comparable vehicle. not the IS-F, it is too small and is build between a sedan (IS) and a race car, while the M is build as a luxury performance sedan. If you want to compare, M56 vs. LS460 or if we want to go further, it is IS-F vs. GT-R, both are the top line performance car from each manufacturer.

Again, M56 will be faster and GT-R is faster. End of story.

[M45Runner]

if i had money i would buy ISF in the hard beat.i just dont like people making fun of lexus, that is all.peace.,caug

Seeing you drive an '04 M45, you would not be able to buy a fast car from Lexus at the time, simply because they have not make a fast car like the IS-F in a long, long time until now. While on the other hand, Infiniti always has fast cars for us. "There is something money can't buy" like a IS-F or similar in 2004.

There is a reason why people make fun of lexus for its slow, soft ride, poor handling - It is their strategy and despite many complaints, they did not change until recently. But, the overall brand image can not be changed by just throw out 1 model. If you do a full line comparison, Lexus is still slow, handles poorly. So, I am afraid you will be unhappy for a while as people will continue make fun of Lexus until the brand image change.

[BadQ45t]

This was quite an interesting thread......one note, you should never run an automatic transmission in neutral for any period of time, no fluid flows when your doing this. You can do it all day long in a manual transmission, but really bad for the autos.

My friend had an 06' M45 and he always reported "horrible" gas mileage but loved the car. He now has a 08' LS460 which is an 8 speed, and he get much better mileage, but not nearly as fun to drive.

[ken in az]

......one note, you should never run an automatic transmission in neutral for any period of time, no fluid flows when your doing this. You can do it all day long in a manual transmission, but really bad for the autos.

Let me clear up this statement a tad....Never "TOW" with the rear drive wheels on the ground in neutral with an auto - it is bad because there is no fluid being pumped through the transmission and this could lead to a failure just as what BadQ45t said.

However if the engine is running it will be spinning the torque converter which is attatched to the transmissions's own separate oil pump that will pump fluid throughout the transmission. It is ok to pop the transmission in neutral while the engine is running such as in a coasting maneuver.

See below chart for auto trans operation from the FSM


Modified by ken in az at 9:18 AM 11/10/2009

[saeedakobiakov]

again as i said 5 times now.

MY FRIENDS IS-F went 117.20 and not some is-f in caranddriver magazine.

do you get it now?

I read all of the comparisons many times.

please some one read it to him, if he cant.

wtf

[fiveliterbeater]

MY FRIENDS IS-F went 117.20

this is all i have to say:

you're "friend" never ran a 117 in the 1/4. PERIOD!

the point of this discussion, which apparently flew past you and landed 30ft behind you, was to point out the fact that if professional drivers cannot get the car as fast as you say, AND numerous 1/4 runs on youtube, needforspeed.com, etc. back that up....you're claims are as clueless and meaningless as your posts!

don't look to others for help just cause you're sinking in your own ocean of B.S. and speculation.

it's ok to be wrong; (God knows i am sometimes) but the more you keep on and on with your b.s., the more im gonna call you out on it!

wow i rule!

[saeedakobiakov]

what is the reason for me to lie?i dont think you will understand, so no need to reply.if i show the slip, you will probably say: it wasn't his.so we done here.i know the truth, and you calling me a liar.have a nice day.

[Kosmos]

Guys I think this person is here to pi***s us off. I know that ignoring him is simply impossible but still stay smart. )))) Here is a quote from Car&Driver for relaxation:"After trying it out, we felt manual shifts were quicker, so that's how we conducted our acceleration runs. We were rewarded with an elapsed time of 14.2 seconds and a terminal velocity of 101 mph. That's perfectly respectable for a 4020-pound luxury car, even if it's unlikely that anyone will go drag racing in an M45. "

[dvan]

MT just did a long term wrap up for the IS-f....here is a quote:

"At the test track, the Lexus ripped to 60 in just 4.3 seconds and through the quarter mile in 12.7 at 112.3 mph."

http://www.motortrend.com/road....html

It would be virtually impossible for your friend to get an extra 5MPH from a stock IS-F!

[m-licious]

i totally believe this guys friends IS-F was that fast. my friend's m45 went flat 12 @120 mph. however, his is modified with a mesh grille so it gets a lot more air on the radiator.

[fiveliterbeater]

MT just did a long term wrap up for the IS-f....here is a quote:

"At the test track, the Lexus ripped to 60 in just 4.3 seconds and through the quarter mile in 12.7 at 112.3 mph."

http://www.motortrend.com/road....html

It would be virtually impossible for your friend to get an extra 5MPH from a stock IS-F!

the guy is a moron and is defending a car his "friend" owns; even on Clublexus.com, you can read up on 1/4 times posted by other IS-F owners and none of them have posted the time trap speed he claims.

just let him sink in his own B.S.

the guys knows cars like Sarah Palin knows politics....

.........i bet he can see Russia from his house

[StevenRogers]

dont you mean like obama knows politics.

[fiveliterbeater]

dont you mean like obama knows politics.

shhhhhhh..... this is a democratic website...we'll be banned if they find out we're republicans

j/k

[fiveliterbeater]

my friend's m45 went flat 12 @120 mph.

[dvan]

12 seconds flat with just a mesh grille? I WANT THAT GRILL!!!!!!!!!!

[nadzak]

i totally believe this guys friends IS-F was that fast. my friend's m45 went flat 12 @120 mph. however, his is modified with a mesh grille so it gets a lot more air on the radiator.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOW!!!

[bredtime]

my friend's m45 went flat 12 @120 mph.

PROOF? Or else....
Modified by bredtime at 7:31 PM 11/11/2009

[m-licious]

sarcasm...it lurks on the internet...

[dvan]

sarcasm...it lurks on the internet...

Oh the joys of emotionless text!

[mcrews]

i totally believe this guys friends IS-F was that fast. my friend's m45 went flat 12 @120 mph. however, his is modified with a mesh grille so it gets a lot more air on the radiator.

The mesh grille does not increase air flow into the airbox, at least not in a measureable amount. The mesh would have to have ateast 1 inch openings to allow the air to pass thru. Particulally on a wot run. the mesh actually works as a flat surface for thair to roll over. The grille is at a slight angle back. if you take a pic at the exact middle w/ the camera perfictly level to the ground, youcan see that the mesh looks almost solid. that what the air seesRemember, the first air to hit the grill IS NOT the air coming directly at it but the air that has hit tge leading edge, the bumper, that is pushing the air up over the car. The direct air is hitting this stream of air anf following it over the hood.the slat grille actually allows better flow because the air rolls over each slat into the opening.

[m-licious]

i'm sorry my attempt at levity has apparently not hit its mark.

to be clear-i was simply making an incredulous statement, which could not be disproven, to demonstrate the absurdity of prior arguments regarding a friend's supercar.

i do not believe that a grille can make a car faster, obviously it cannot...only limo tint and a very big spoiler can. i know that now.

[mcrews]

i'm sorry my attempt at levity has apparently not hit its mark.

to be clear-i was simply making an incredulous statement, which could not be disproven, to demonstrate the absurdity of prior arguments regarding a friend's supercar.

i do not believe that a grille can make a car faster, obviously it cannot...only limo tint and a very big spoiler can. i know that now.

sorry, thought you'd been dippin into the cool-aid.

Because any true NICO poster (1000+) will tell you, that only the NICO sticker, strategicly placed on the front windshield at 3.6785732 mm intervals will truely increase hp & MPG.

[StevenRogers]

i'm sorry my attempt at levity has apparently not hit its mark.

to be clear-i was simply making an incredulous statement, which could not be disproven, to demonstrate the absurdity of prior arguments regarding a friend's supercar.

i do not believe that a grille can make a car faster, obviously it cannot...only limo tint and a very big spoiler can. i know that now.

ahh... the limo tint makes sense, the reduction of heat in the cabin affects the engine temperature in the engine bay thus making it perform better. you should tint the front window as well to get maximum performance.

and you should be ashamed to not clarify how the big spoiler increases speed. the larger and heavier the spoiler in the rear is will weigh down the rear end of the car so that their is more traction to the rear wheels, especially if it is a front wheel drive vehicle.

please explain how these modifications work in the future so forum members can advantageously use them.

[mcrews]

Captian kirk: Scotty.....Scotty.......

Scotty: Scotty here.....

k: how much longer scotty

s: damn it captian, they have tint all over the sysytm...I cant see a thing!!!

k: scotty, you've got to gert to warp speed now!!!!!

k: scotty?

S: yes

K: well.....

S: the engineers are uotside putting on the mesh grille as we speak!!!!

k: scotty...I need warp speed NOW........!!!!

s: well hit the damn nico sticker MAN!!!!!!!