Is there a new Q coming soon? none at LA auto show

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The Q was conspicuously missing at the Ininiti display. I have been out of the loop. What did I miss?

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http://americajr.com/news/naia....html

Concept Q will be at the Detroit auto show next March. Hopefully it will be the next gen Q for 2008 or 2009 release.

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I hope it isnt a bland G/M knockoff.

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Didn't we hear some chatter about Infinti doing a V10 version of the Q? I thought we had heard some fairly reliable speculation.

Since we are on this fairly open-ended topic... how about some things you'd like to see in the "dream" concept Q.

V10 w/500hp is mandatory to put it back at the forefront and beat the latest entries from BMW, MB, and Lexus.

Time to go back to a body style more akin to the G50... something beefy, with the slightly backward sloping roof line, long hood, and big shoulders. I'd like to see the wheels pushed out toward the corners ala BMW.

Interior needs to return to the beautiful simplicity that made it so great.

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ceningolmo wrote:V10 w/500hp is mandatory to put it back at the forefront and beat the latest entries from BMW, MB, and Lexus.
Unfortunately, a V10 would be too limited in market appeal and too costly to develop. Maybe if Renault were to build a complimentary car, but otherwise develoment costs would be out the window. I would be happy with a big bore (say 105mm) V8.

Remember most S class are 4 and 5 liter V8 here, and various sixes and diesels in Europe.

I hope they shun the temptation to make it a gadget laden excess like the new LS460, which has trouble matching Suburbans in high speed braking distances.

It would be a real coup if they could do an aluminum chassis like Audi A8 or Jaguar XJ and leapfrog MB and BMW in that regard. I don't think they are prepared for that.

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the detroit show is actually in january.
Q45man1 wrote:http://americajr.com/news/naia....html

Concept Q will be at the Detroit auto show next March. Hopefully it will be the next gen Q for 2008 or 2009 release.


the detroit show is actually in january. I will be attending a preview of this show and will take detailed pics and post shortly after show. Jazz

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DetroitJazzMan wrote: the detroit show is actually in january. I will be attending a preview of this show and will take detailed pics and post shortly after show. Jazz
Hot damn!

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The new Q is rumored to debut in 08 and be powered by a 5.0 litre variation of the current VK45DE, with the symmetrical dual intake / exhaust of the VQ35HR (www.VQ35HR.com).


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Quote »Remember most S class are 4 and 5 liter V8 here, and various sixes and diesels in Europe[/quote]It is because we don't get taxed on engine displacement! In Europe (most of it) you getting tagged on HP and CC of engine dosplacement! EXPENSIVE!I wish US had the same rules. Oh well at least one "true" freedom we still have. Right to bare/own a big block V-8 or V-10 w/o paying through the nose for it

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ceningolmo wrote:Interior needs to return to the beautiful simplicity that made it so great.
You have my vote here.

Example: I test drove the 06M45s twice. I really liked it until I drove a 540i6 sport. You've read by blather on this...

Fast forward to yesterday. My GF's brother bought a 07 M45, black on black, very sexy. I sat in it and the felling of way too much bling rushed over me. MB has this too, I sat in the E63 and it was awlful. Like sitting in a jewlery box.

I don't think we can escape this trend. Perhaps it's one the reasons I love the G50 so much. Its interior is clean and simple.

If I was designing the new Q---it would have the exterior of the G, stretched and widened, the interior of the G50, the suspension/steering of the 540i sport, a 500 HP engine and a six speed option. Don't hold your breath. Cause this aint going to happen.

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AZhitman wrote:The new Q is rumored to debut in 08 and be powered by a 5.0 litre variation of the current VK45DE, with the symmetrical dual intake / exhaust of the VQ35HR (www.VQ35HR.com).

http://img206.imageshack.us/im...2.jpg
If that grey thing at the top of the page is supposed to be a Q conception, the artists needs to lay off the crack. It's pure Toyota. Looks like a bad combination of the current Avalon and LS.

I hope you're right about the powerplant, though.

EDIT:I see a white Foria in the corner. I guess it hasn't completely fallen off the face of the Earth after all.

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Peterofdevon wrote:Example: I test drove the 06M45s twice. I really liked it until I drove a 540i6 sport. You've read by blather on this...
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a manual wouldnt surprise me considering how the rest of the current cars can get one, oh well we shall see in less than a month, you f50 owners better get ready for an even biiger drop in value.

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The interior of an old Q is gone guys, come on, serious now, your not going to compete with anything at the 50-70k mark. I have driven an M45 and it is nice, not overdone. The old Q is done, it was a 90's design and I'll take my Y33 over it any day...too plain and wouldn't compete in this market. The current Q's interior is awesome, that ain't the problem, the exterior is what kills it in the market.

Let's hope for the 08 to make some inroads.

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There is a difference between duplication of the 9093 interior and creating a new interior based on similar design principles.

To me, the new stuff looks cheap... including the M45. The Y33 looks good, but doesn't have the same simple elegance of the original interior. There is a way to include all the features, gadgets, and fun of the more modern car but keep a simple, elegant, clean looking interior. In my opinion, everyone has failed lately.

And, I don't think I could make a blanket statement about whether it would fail or succeed at market. It can compete, as by definition it is available if it is competing. But, whether it could successfully compete I'd have a difficult time determining. Since there isn't a car out there right now with similar design principles there is no current bench mark for sales performance.

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Sharpel007 wrote:a manual wouldnt surprise me considering how the rest of the current cars can get one, oh well we shall see in less than a month, you f50 owners better get ready for an even biiger drop in value.
There are no VK powered cars available with a manual. The M isn't available with a manual, so I doubt the Q will be. Plus there really is no market in the US for a large M/T sedan. A manual M35/M45 really should be out there because they compete with the 5-series which currently offers the only manual in the class (A6 doesn't, E-class doesn't, Lexus GS certainly doesn't), but a manual Q would never sell IMO.

And that concept drawing that was posted is hideous. It looks like a disgusting combination of an M45 and a Ford Five Hundred.

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They need to come out with a totally redesignednew Q quick, and not make it look like a buick with a infiniti logo on the front. They need to get back to 90-93, not in looks or body sytle but in ideas and things like that like they did withe the first GEN, because eveyone is following everyone else right now and thats what made the original Q standout from the rest of them (MB, BMW, LEX). They need to get outside the box with this one and not worry about what is going to sell because that is why the current Q looks the way it does now, and get back to what they did which is being unique. Because right now that M is killin the Q in a lot of areas (price, tech, appell, SALES...ect)

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MattB wrote:
And that concept drawing that was posted is hideous. It looks like a disgusting combination of an M45 and a Ford Five Hundred.
Yeah man i agree with you on that...but that's because of the new luxury thing right now it hard to be a "luxury" car when you can get a the new nissan altima with most of the stuff that the M has. and by the way the new alt. is just a M with a different tail light.

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Really? Is the Altima rear wheel drive?

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In terms of style, the M and Altima are indeed much alike. Its a commendably engineered car thats a complete bore to look at -- I'd even say the Altima is more attractive.

Stealth?

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bruce.weiland wrote:Really? Is the Altima rear wheel drive?
Not today, and no plans from Nissans sites.

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Jesda wrote:In terms of style, the M and Altima are indeed much alike. Its a commendably engineered car thats a complete bore to look at -- I'd even say the Altima is more attractive.

Stealth?
Jesda for president!!!!

I couldnt agree more.

Infifniti is just not the car it used to be. As far as I'm concerned, it ended with the Y33 and Y34.

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Some bozo posts "+1" on the M5 boards when he agrees...

so too rip him off:

+1 on the above.

I think the Altima is one of the best looking cars on the road.

If I ran Infiniti....

I'd have a "M" clone Altima type car. Put in the V8, offer manual, lower it, goose up the suspension, kills lots of cows for the interior, make it black on Black sinisiter only, and sell tons of them for 65K. Position it as a M3/M5 spoiler.

wake up mr. Peter, wake up mr. Peter......

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Back to the answer to my question. Is the Altima rear wheel drive?

Answer was; NO!

M3/M5= rear wheel drive.

Altima with a V8, kind of like a front wheel drive Caddy with V8, just a waste of motor.

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Balt wrote:
Yeah man i agree with you on that...but that's because of the new luxury thing right now it hard to be a "luxury" car when you can get a the new nissan altima with most of the stuff that the M has. and by the way the new alt. is just a M with a different tail light.
I looked at and sat in the new Altima while waiting to have my A33 I30's oil changed the other day. It's a nice car, and definately does share some styling cues from the M, but it's still not close to being the same car. It's not the first time an Altima has taken Infiniti styling cues, the 93-97 Altimas were supposed to look like the J30. And IIRC you can't get an Altima with Intelligent Cruise Control or a bunch of the M's technology toys. I'd personally take my A33 over the new Altima any day, even though the A33 was supposedly a "low" for Infiniti.


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