Is the GOP sinking?

[telcoman]

It sure seems that way

http://www.politico.com/news/s....html

Telcoman

[szh]

No biggie. Everybody has their ups and downs ...

Z

[smockers83]

A better question yet, is the government as a whole sinking? The Dems, with control of Congress, have failed much more quickly and worse than the GOP.

[rn79870]

No biggie. Everybody has their ups and downs ...

Z

That's absolutely true. The reps lost several points with Palin, but there's plenty of time to gain it back. It doesn't count until Nov 4th.

[telcoman]

A better question yet, is the government as a whole sinking? The Dems, with control of Congress, have failed much more quickly and worse than the GOP.

And from 2000 to 2006 the Republician failures were caused by?

A republician president and republician control of congress so what happened? One failure after another and in 2006 the republicians lost control of congress. Guess whats next come November?

Telcoman

[szh]

Guess whats next come November?

Telcoman

A Republican WIN, I expect and want!

Z

[themadscientist]

I think the death knell for the DNC started when they gave this man the rudder.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=...latedh ... v=...lated

[smockers83]

And from 2000 to 2006 the Republician failures were caused by?

A republician president and republician control of congress so what happened? One failure after another and in 2006 the republicians lost control of congress. Guess whats next come November?

This makes no sense to me at all, what a surprise. Also, learn how to spell, you have a chronic case of misspelling.

You tell me what the Republican failures were caused by from 2000-2006. If we're going by those years, you must be talking about Congress. The Republican Congress didn't fail the American people, at least compared to the Democratic Congress that is currently at 9%.

In November? We have an election for nearly all of the people in DC. If Obama wins and the Democrats remain in control of Congress, we could have the same type of failure that is claimed of the GOP-controlled WH and Congress. Or we could have the failure seen in Congress right now in both places. If McCain wins and the GOP takes back the Congress, that could get interesting to see how much McCain aligns himself with the party. If the Democrats remain in control, which to me is hard to believe given their performance today, again it shall be interesting.

[Jimefam]

No the GOP isn't sinking. What happens is that in our society people are much less involved in politics and fall victims to spin more and more often. There is so much partisan politics neither party can accomplish anything. And since peoples minds now are pretty much shaped by ads and the media theres less accountability. John Kerry is a perfect example, some how the republicans were able to discredit his honorable military past while making bushs weak military career look normal. All bs but who gives a s**t nobody cares about facts anymore.

The dems have such a low approval rating cause for the past eight years everything that could have gone wrong has. And people expected the dems to ride in and fix all of our presidents failed policies in less than two years? with him still in office vetoing any progress? a whole society suffering from ADD.

Hate to use the phrase "failed policies" cause its what the dems use but I think its dead on. Almost every decision this man has made has turned out disasterous. Specially his personnel choices, that is one aspect that amazes me about his presidency. That man simply surrounds himself with idiots

[AZhitman]

And from 2000 to 2006 the Republician failures were caused by?

Are you, by any chance, a Democrat?

It's so hard to tell from your posts.

[smockers83]

I have an even better question. Why do we need political parties? Why do we have to align ourselves with a party of beliefs and the one time we go astray, its bad for the party or something? Get rid of the parties and we get rid of partisan politics and everyone thinks based on their own beliefs instead of thinking for the party. Sure, there can be sides to issues, but instead of worrying about what other party members may think or your party constituents, you have the freedom to move around and it eliminates bureaucracy.

[HashiriyaS14]

If McCain wins and the GOP takes back the Congress

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

Democrats are going to gain at least 15 seats in the House and a considerable number in the Senate. There is a zero point zero percent chance that the GOP will gain back their legislative majorities in 2008, although I do give McCain nearly an even-money chance of getting to the White House.

If the Dems win control and do a shxtty job, then maybe in the 2010 midterms or in 2012, but DEFINITELY not in 2008, not a snowball's chance in hell.

[rn79870]

You tell me what the Republican failures were caused by from 2000-2006. If we're going by those years, you must be talking about Congress. The Republican Congress didn't fail the American people, at least compared to the Democratic Congress that is currently at 9%

Shall we start with that pesky Iraq. Of course, that isn't that a failure in some people's book?

[smockers83]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

Democrats are going to gain at least 15 seats in the House and a considerable number in the Senate. There is a zero point zero percent chance that the GOP will gain back their legislative majorities in 2008, although I do give McCain nearly an even-money chance of getting to the White House.

If the Dems win control and do a shxtty job, then maybe in the 2010 midterms or in 2012, but DEFINITELY not in 2008, not a snowball's chance in hell.

It was all just hypothetical thoughts, but I wouldn't give it a 0.0 chance. Midterm elections would definitely be more realistic if the current congressional hostage crisis continues, at least that's what I like to call it.

Shall we start with that pesky Iraq. Of course, that isn't that a failure in some people's book?

Well, to be fair, many Democrats did support it initially as well. Everyone in the Congress was equally duped.

I'm not trying to be partisan here and push people's buttons, I'm trying to put that aside and look at the bigger picture. Just set aside your party for a bit and think about it.

[szh]

Just set aside your party for a bit and think about it.

That is tough for him to do, since he thinks we are all ganging up on Democrats and liberals in general.

FWIW, I wasn't initially - since I am/was undecided up until a few days, but I find that the scurrilous, contemptible attacks on Palin in some threads (among other reasons) has led me to see the light. I am strongly in favor of McCain-Palin at this time, even though I still do not agree with some of their stated positions.

Z

[audtatious]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

Democrats are going to gain at least 15 seats in the House and a considerable number in the Senate. There is a zero point zero percent chance that the GOP will gain back their legislative majorities in 2008, although I do give McCain nearly an even-money chance of getting to the White House.

If the Dems win control and do a shxtty job, then maybe in the 2010 midterms or in 2012, but DEFINITELY not in 2008, not a snowball's chance in hell.

I tend to agree but there are a couple years to go before any major shift so who knows. With the Dems "asleep at the wheel" for the last two years they are not looking good either.

[audtatious]

FWIW, I wasn't initially - since I am/was undecided up until a few days, but I find that the scurrilous, contemptible attacks on Palin in some threads (among other reasons) has led me to see the light. I am strongly in favor of McCain-Palin at this time, even though I still do not agree with some of their stated positions.

Z

I'm in the same boat. Hillary vs McCain would have been a tough decision but Obama vs McCain is not.