Is the 240 a good choice for me?

[ridesdirt]

Newb with first post here. I have tried searching but can't seem to get the answer I am looking for...

First a quick intro; I am looking to build a "toy" that is capable of 11 second runs in the quarter mile(or quicker) and be a fun streetable (drift) car my wife could even drive to the store (not really). I am interested in the 240 because it looks like a decent alternative to a supercharged Mustang. This would not be a daily driver, but I want to keep the interior intact and must keep the air conditioner functioning.

So, is the 240 capable of of this type of performance?

If so, I am curious on which engine is the way to go. From my preliminary research it looks like an extreme KA turbo, or a built RB-25 or RB-26 would be the engines to choose from. Or possibly a Yota 2JZ swap...

Not trying to start a debate, just want an idea of which motor has the potential to be a better street cruser over a dedicated race setup.

Fantastic site here! Lots of information...

Thanks,

[Morph]

Fantastic site here! Lots of information...

Thanks,

One of the best things you said, so use it. All of the things you asked already have been covered. It might not be in a post titled KA-T vs RB25/26 for 11second drag/drift but read and make your own decisions. Also get prepared people are going to flame you hard man.

[Frankenfourty]

Your going to have to pick one.....11 sec drag car, or drift car? Because they are completely conflicting setups. Tires and suspension setups would be different.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

It's all about how you build it.

Just an FYI, it's not going to be easy to build an 11 second drift car...

[ridesdirt]

Let me clarify. I do not want a drift car or a drag car. I will be building a street car. Possibly hitting the drag strip once or twice a year. And I want to hang it out whenever my right foot feels like it, controllably (is that a word?).

Like I said, I am not trying to start a debate. If the 240 has to set up so specific to perform like this, it is not what I am looking for. I think it is a bada$$ looking ride. This will be a toy for me. I have extended family members with Mustangs and want to have something different... and just as fast or faster. I have seen Supras that will run like this, I just like the looks of the 240 better... I really like the looks of the Skyline but right hand drive is not for me.

So maybe my question should have been; can the 240 perform like this with a Nissan engine and still be a street cruser?

My next step will be making a short list of two or three cars from different mfgs and doing a budget build for the results I am looking for. Shooting from the hip I think I can put together a 240 beast for between 11 and 12 K and I do the work. I know, I have seen a few complete cars in this price range, but the build is half the fun for me.

and thanks for the replies, I do appreciate the input.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I know plenty of street cars with crazy swaps. Hell, a semi-local guy daily drove a 700hp SR S13 on drag slicks. It's all about how you build it, how much money you have/are willing to spend and how far down the rabbit hole you want to go. One motor isn't going to be better than another simply because you can do ANYTHING. It all comes down to money and what you want to do with your car.

[ridesdirt]

I agree and weel said.

I have built 5 or 6 muscle cars over the years and have always laughed at the "rice burners". Now all the sudden I have the urge to build one. Go figure...

[ILoveMyRHS13]

You could always V8 swap a 240, haha. Keeping muscle in a "rice burner."

[ridesdirt]

The thought has crossed my mind, my brother in-law runs a Ford Speed/Tune shop. A 5.4L 4-valve with a Kenny Bell on top would do the trick for sure. And I can make that happen, but part of my interest is to bust some Mustangs with a inline motor... probably a 6 cylinder.

It would/will be great to see their faces when 550hp pops up the DynoJet display from a vehicle with a fart can on the back. lol

[EnjoiNismo]

1JZ are solid motors.

[ridesdirt]

I did find a lot of info about this swap, there are a lot of kits out there, and it is a posibility. I think the motor purchase is similar money to the RB. Electronics may be more challenging, but I think a stand alone system may be favorable anyway...

[kouki munster]

This is actually a pretty easy thing to do, pick a motor(sr, rb, ka, lsx.....) do what ever is needed to get it to put out at least 400 at the wheels(larger turbo, cams, injectors, and a good method of tuning), and then give it a good suspension setup of your choice with some wider stickier rubber.

You could copy my current setup and have exactly what you are looking for, a car that is capable of 11's in the quarter mile, is fun to drive on the street everyday, (the heavier your right foot is the more fun it is), has full interior and will have working a/c when I stop being lazy and get the last line I need made.

[ridesdirt]

04 F-250, 7,500 pound whistlin water buffalo

thats funny! Mine is an '08 with the dbl wistler...


Hey, I am in Fort Mill, other side of the state from you. Are you anywhere near Greer? I saw a decent looking KA turbo for sale down there. If so, you know anything about that car?

And you think 400hp is enough to get into the 11s?

[kouki munster]

Greer is about an hour from me and I'm not sure which car you are talking about, post some pics or let me know what year and color it is, and I'll see if I recognize it.

If you are competent with launching a car, and you have a good set of tires out back mid 11's shouldn't be too hard to pull off consistently.(low elevens if you are real good) You have to remember that it isn't too hard to keep these cars sub 3000 pounds with the driver and without ditching the interior.

[ridesdirt]

If you are competent with launching a car, and you have a good set of tires out back mid 11's shouldn't be too hard to pull off consistently.(low elevens if you are real good) You have to remember that it isn't too hard to keep these cars sub 3000 pounds with the driver and without ditching the interior.

Good info there, thanks.

pm sent

[kouki munster]

Replied, and I'm glad to help.

[kouki munster]

04 F-250, 7,500 pound whistlin water buffalo

thats funny! Mine is an '08 with the dbl wistler...

Ha, I completely missed this earlier, once I hacked the cat off the truck most my friends started calling it the water buffalo.

The twin turbo 6.4 trucks can make some serious power, you just have to ditch the particulate filter and disable re gen first, so they don't cook the turbos.

[Dittoz7]

2jz

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[simmode1]

Sounds like this might be the project for a guy like you:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JthzFgWYuvw[/youtube]
I swear, this video never gets old... You can keep it all in the Nissan family fairly cheaply and keep your V8 loving domestic buddies off your back with the VH45DE swap. Just hit up Mazworx for a swap kit.

The 240sx is an all-around decent performer provided that you put some thought into your modifications.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psBHCZEL ... r_embedded[/youtube]
Ahh man... VH sounds so beastly...

[Raz007]

ahhhhhhhh the sound of a throaty V-8. I've been looking at the Ford 289 small block that I pulled out of the Mustang, and looking at my 240 thinking "A 289sx? Now that would be fun!" Waaay too much work though.

[ridesdirt]

04 F-250, 7,500 pound whistlin water buffalo

thats funny! Mine is an '08 with the dbl wistler...

Ha, I completely missed this earlier, once I hacked the cat off the truck most my friends started calling it the water buffalo.

The twin turbo 6.4 trucks can make some serious power, you just have to ditch the particulate filter and disable re gen first, so they don't cook the turbos.

Yeah, I did that. The 6.4 needs to breath. Fuel mileage jumped 30% + and gained over 100 hp... SCT is the Ford tune for sure

[ridesdirt]

Raz007, that picture above with the Chevelle and Mustang, is that your shop? If so, you did a really nice build. I remember looking thru the build thread, it was a 4 cylinder motor, cant remeber which one... Really nice silver car! That is the type of build I want to do, very quality work. I am sure that build cost a gold nugget or two.

To be honest I have not looked at a VH45DE swap. I am assuming this is an Infiniti 4.5 liter V8. I like that ! A LOT!


I have found a way in to see if I like the 240 platform. My son is 15 and we are going to get him a car, ding ding, lets get him a 240 and check it out. Already found a few local to look at. We will keep his motor stock, maybe give him some wheels/tires after he learns not to "curb it".

[Raz007]

Haha well it's kind of my shop. It's my garage at home. Never did a build thread though, my 240 is my DD and hasn't had a lot done to it. As far as the domestics go, I suppose I could put up some pics of those transformations, didn't think any 240 guys would be that interested.....

[simmode1]

To be honest I have not looked at a VH45DE swap. I am assuming this is an Infiniti 4.5 liter V8. I like that ! A LOT!

Yep, the motor is from the Infiniti Q45. 1991 to 1996, I think. VH45DE + Vortech Supercharger = Awesomesauce. The swap isn't the most common for the 240, but it is extensively documented and pretty straightfoward. Some ppl opt to twin turbo their VH, so you've got options.