Is screwing your best friends wife acceptable

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To John Ensign it was

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/john-ens ... d=13597106

The party of family values

Praying for sex

"Senator Ensign told Ms. Hampton on more than one occasion that he wanted to marry
her. Senator Ensign told Ms. Hampton that he wanted to marry her while they attended the
National Prayer Breakfast in Washington.?

What a guy

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Heard about this earlier. That sorta of behavior is fairly common these days so are we really surprised when our elected officials, who are supposed to be a sample of the populous, exhibit the same behavior? That doesnt excuse it, its still horrible for anyone to act that way, but its really not any more terrible in my mind that its a politician doing it. As long as he officiates his office properly, thats really all that matters politically. If he broke laws in his behavior then he should be dealt with, but really the laws here are antiquated laws that rarely get enforced among the general public anyway, for whatever reason.

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stebo0728 wrote:Heard about this earlier. That sorta of behavior is fairly common these days so are we really surprised when our elected officials, who are supposed to be a sample of the populous, exhibit the same behavior? That doesnt excuse it, its still horrible for anyone to act that way, but its really not any more terrible in my mind that its a politician doing it. As long as he officiates his office properly, thats really all that matters politically. If he broke laws in his behavior then he should be dealt with, but really the laws here are antiquated laws that rarely get enforced among the general public anyway, for whatever reason.
Many on the right went after president Clinton for only one BJ
There was no money or payoffs involved

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telcoman wrote:
stebo0728 wrote:Heard about this earlier. That sorta of behavior is fairly common these days so are we really surprised when our elected officials, who are supposed to be a sample of the populous, exhibit the same behavior? That doesnt excuse it, its still horrible for anyone to act that way, but its really not any more terrible in my mind that its a politician doing it. As long as he officiates his office properly, thats really all that matters politically. If he broke laws in his behavior then he should be dealt with, but really the laws here are antiquated laws that rarely get enforced among the general public anyway, for whatever reason.
Many on the right went after president Clinton for only one BJ
There was no money or payoffs involved
There was this stinky little detail about perjury though ....

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The scum floats to the top

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stebo0728 wrote:
telcoman wrote:Many on the right went after president Clinton for only one BJ
There was no money or payoffs involved
There was this stinky little detail about perjury though ....
When we heard Pres Clinton deny it, I (a Republican) turned to my wife (a Democrat) and said: "Okay, he cannot be guilty on this one."

She looked at me like I was nuts and said that she felt he was guilty. :yesnod

And I found out I was wrong later. :rolleyes:

Forget about "money or payoffs" - the public lying (by a President) was the real problem there.

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szh wrote:Forget about "money or payoffs" - the public lying (by a President) was the real problem there.
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So are you saying that consenting sex between the president and an unmarried female and not telling the truth about the relationship is worse than screwing your best friends wife and having your parents pay to attempt to keep it quiet?

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telcoman wrote:
szh wrote:Forget about "money or payoffs" - the public lying (by a President) was the real problem there.
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So are you saying that consenting sex between the president and an unmarried female and not telling the truth about the relationship is worse than screwing your best friends wife and having your parents pay to attempt to keep it quiet?
The consenting sex between President Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was entirely their (and Hilary's/family) business. Neither mine nor for anybody to have to do anything about - yes, I felt the investigation was over the top. Human being's will do what they will - regardless of their position in the world.

However, President Clinton's lying to the country about it, for whatever reason, was my business to be concerned about as a US citizen. I believed his public denial (if he had simply answered the questions with a "None of your business - it is a private matter", I would have been fine with that!). For that reason, I would have impeached him if I had the authority in any way to do so, because he could no longer be trusted.

Your attempt to compare Clinton's actions with Ensign's (or his family's) actions is irrelevant - the two are not related, so "worse than" is meaningless. Ensign was not my state Senator ... it is for the Senate ethics committee, and Ensign's constituency, to deal with the matter. If he broke any specific laws, then he should be dealt with that accordingly too ... but I suspect that this is not exactly clear either.

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Both parties have been guilty of this sort of nonsense, both the infidelity and the lying, since the beginning of time.

This is a non-thread.

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HashiriyaS14 wrote:Both parties have been guilty of this sort of nonsense, both the infidelity and the lying, since the beginning of time.

This is a non-thread.
Yes, on both points. :yesnod

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