Is Rivsu a licensed car dealer in Florida?

[tyndago]

Maybe I am missing something or a name, but I tried SOHO, and that one worked, and it was expired.

(c) “Motor vehicle dealer” means any person engaged in the business of buying, selling, or dealing in motor vehicles or offering or displaying motor vehicles for sale at wholesale or retail, or who may service and repair motor vehicles pursuant to an agreement as defined in s. 320.60(1). Any person who buys, sells, or deals in three or more motor vehicles in any 12-month period or who offers or displays for sale three or more motor vehicles in any 12-month period shall be prima facie presumed to be engaged in such business.

http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/forms/BRE/84901.pdf

https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices ... earch.aspx

http://www.flofr.com/StaticPages/VerifyALicense.htm









https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HA85 ... xpired.JPG







Looks like more than 3 cars currently offered. No record of being a dealer. Not at least under any name I see, or under Steves name. Am I missing something? Some other name? Some other company? SOHO? HiRev with our boy Frank Mendola?

[tyndago]

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/ind ... 20.27.html

"(c) “Motor vehicle dealer” means any person engaged in the business of buying, selling, or dealing in motor vehicles or offering or displaying motor vehicles for sale at wholesale or retail, or who may service and repair motor vehicles pursuant to an agreement as defined in s. 320.60(1). Any person who buys, sells, or deals in three or more motor vehicles in any 12-month period or who offers or displays for sale three or more motor vehicles in any 12-month period shall be prima facie presumed to be engaged in such business. "

"LICENSE REQUIRED.—No person shall engage in business as, serve in the capacity of, or act as a motor vehicle dealer in this state without first obtaining a license therefor in the appropriate classification as provided in this section. With the exception of transactions with motor vehicle auctions, no person other than a licensed motor vehicle dealer may advertise for sale any motor vehicle belonging to another party unless as a direct result of a bona fide legal proceeding, court order, settlement of an estate, or by operation of law."

"(8) PENALTY.—Any person found guilty of violating any of the provisions of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083."

[themadscientist]

The two arrests are nice.

[Rogue One]

And the point of this thread is...?

[tyndago]

And the point of this thread is...?

To ask if someone that is in this forum, offering services to people, is actually licensed to do so. There are certain requirements in place to protect the public, like a $25k bond in Florida. This is money, or insurance put up to be there if there is a problem with the dealer.

Plus some more information on SOHO Imports. One of Greg's favorites.

[tyndago]

Steve likes to try and say that he never asked for help from me. He want to say I ratted on people, when in fact I got angry with idiots on his forum, because I saw what was happening with the Kaizo guys here locally. I knew they had cars taken, and people had been raided.

Don't think I don't take it seriously. Don't think I don't have a temper. Don't think I have ever said anything I wanted to take back. I don't like to see peoples cars get taken, but in the case of idiots, serves them right.

7/22/09

Sean,

After today's development with Mike's ICE phone call I figured I'd see what your thoughts were for future actions. All of us at SOUSA have been discussing privately ideas for handling this issue if things start to head south for Kaizo cars, Gray markets, etc. all together. Thus far I'd wager we have over a dozen of our trusted inner circle type guys that are willing to step up and get the ball rolling to push this situation to people and places that may take interest to the community's current troubles with NHTSA and ICE. By that I mean the media, Congressman, whoever will listen and get this stuff into the eyes of the public a little more.

Overall on SOUSA we have nearly 1,200 members with at least 300-400 or so that are actual Skyline owners and give or take about 250 different members out of those that are actively on the forums each month. With those numbers and some others from FA, NICO if needed and other local sites, I'm confident we could amass a decent size force that could really shed some public attention worthy of headline news if it needed to come to that. At the least a class action lawsuit maybe in order which sometimes works as well.

Please let me know your thoughts on this matter, if you wish to hop onto the SOUSA discussion let me know and I'll set you up. We've been attempting to keep as much as possible in-house for now until we can all come up with a decent product and solid info to push out.

Thanks in advance,

Steve
Owner - SkylineOwnersUSA.com
official email: [email protected]

7/23/09

Sean,

Here's your login info for skylineownersusa.com

User name: tyndago
Password:

Once you login you can change your info and details. The Kaizo discussions are under the Elite Members Section and the sub-forum section (Area51) which is a private hidden forum that only Premium members have access to and can see. All of our premium members are hand selected and voted into access for the area based upon trust, etc.

8/20/09

Hey Sean,

Just curious what you heard about Mosth8d. I've known him since he joined the forum last year, and he's been very vocal and open about his adventures in Skyline ownership.

He recently traded in his car for an EVO + $$$ because he was freakin' out about Kaizo and getting caught up in this mess. I spoke with Daryl a couple times about Rich, and IMHO there is no love lost between the two. Rich has some animosity towards Daryl because he feels that Daryl lied to him about the condition of his car, the legality of the car, etc.

Jixxer and I also met Rich in person about 2 months ago, and AFAIK he's straight up what he says he is. Army dude, a little paranoid schizo but that's cool.

Could he be a fed? I suppose anything is possible... so I'd love to hear what exactly you heard.

-Steve

Wonder how the dealer license is working out for him.

[VandrelSOUSA]

Yes, you were invited in 2009 to weigh in on the situation and help where possible. For the record, the last message you posted was a Private Message you received from a Kaizo owner in 2009.

[tyndago]

So how is your dealer license in Florida coming?

Still illegally selling cars to people?

[tyndago]

Maybe I am missing something or a name, but I tried SOHO, and that one worked, and it was expired.

(c) “Motor vehicle dealer” means any person engaged in the business of buying, selling, or dealing in motor vehicles or offering or displaying motor vehicles for sale at wholesale or retail, or who may service and repair motor vehicles pursuant to an agreement as defined in s. 320.60(1). Any person who buys, sells, or deals in three or more motor vehicles in any 12-month period or who offers or displays for sale three or more motor vehicles in any 12-month period shall be prima facie presumed to be engaged in such business.

http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/forms/BRE/84901.pdf

https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices ... earch.aspx

http://www.flofr.com/StaticPages/VerifyALicense.htm

[tyndago]

If I make a mistake, you sure have the answers at your fingertips.

However, ask you for real documents, proving you can sell cars, not a peep.

No wonder you are a scamming slimeball dirt bag.

[themadscientist]

No need for two threads. Keep the urine off the walls please.

[tyndago]

I guess no info on this yet.

I bet if I get his address wrong, he would pop right up here. But ask him for paperwork proving he can actually, legally sell cars. Ghost.

Shady.

[themadscientist]

The silence is deafening.

[tyndago]

The silence is deafening.

This dealer license thing, with the bond, that is just consumer protection. So maybe you guys in NICO, should think about what this guy posts on here. After all if you are for the consumer, this guy is potentially screwing over the consumer, by not having the correct licenses and protection.

Something to think about.

In California, I have a $50,000 bond to be a retail car dealer. Have to have a location, have to go though a class. Have to get inspected by the DMV. Some people do things correctly, other guys are just shady from day 1, and shady to this day.

[loopyR31]

I bought a R31 from JSP not long ago, didn't have a very positive experience doing all the manual work myself. I've been wanting to get a 89 R32 as well but this time just pay someone to do the leg work for me.

I've been doing a little bit of searching on forums and seeing who people are referring for these types of services. Anyone have any experience with Nostalgia Imports? http://nostalgiaimports.com/ Are they a pretty big company and one that's licensed? Seen a few nice cars on their Facebook page.

Last thing I'd want to do is buy a car from a place that can't deliver the car properly.

EDIT:
Also was looking at a place called Drag International, not sure if they are legal though since I see a few 1990 Cosmos on their site for sale, http://dragint.com/2014/01/30/jdm-cars/ . Certainly the Cosmos are not legal yet right? Figured they were not available until next year.

The last place I was looking at recently was Black Ops Inc, http://blackopsperformance.com/ but I had the same questions with them as I did with Drag International. They have a Y33 and a bunch of S15s on their Facebook so I don't see how that's possible.

[tyndago]

Nostalgia is Jason. He is in New York. Has imported a couple of cars. I helped him get his NISMO in.

The other guys in Florida, are typical Florida illegal importers.

My company is International Vehicle Importers. http://www.importavehicle.com or https://www.facebook.com/importavehicle

We are a licensed and bonded California car dealer. I have been in the car buisiness my whole life. Importing and exporting cars. Up to eight NISMO R32's imported/here/coming.

My personal car is NISMO #500.

Hitting curbs at Buttonwillow in SoCal.

[tyndago]

Four weeks later, and........nothing.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/ind ... 20.27.html

"(c) “Motor vehicle dealer” means any person engaged in the business of buying, selling, or dealing in motor vehicles or offering or displaying motor vehicles for sale at wholesale or retail, or who may service and repair motor vehicles pursuant to an agreement as defined in s. 320.60(1). Any person who buys, sells, or deals in three or more motor vehicles in any 12-month period or who offers or displays for sale three or more motor vehicles in any 12-month period shall be prima facie presumed to be engaged in such business. "

"LICENSE REQUIRED.—No person shall engage in business as, serve in the capacity of, or act as a motor vehicle dealer in this state without first obtaining a license therefor in the appropriate classification as provided in this section. With the exception of transactions with motor vehicle auctions, no person other than a licensed motor vehicle dealer may advertise for sale any motor vehicle belonging to another party unless as a direct result of a bona fide legal proceeding, court order, settlement of an estate, or by operation of law."

"(8) PENALTY.—Any person found guilty of violating any of the provisions of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083."

[MHPALA]

Thanks for looking out Sean. Me and a colleague from Michigan planned on purchasing our R32s through Rivsu. I was on the edge of biting the bullet since I live in Florida, and buying through them meant no extra transporting fees to my place of residence, but I backed out.

What Rivsu has going is good. It is sad that they can't even pay a simple dealer bond (yet they can give a car away). Hope they get things sorted out soon with the bond.

Me and my colleague will be in contact with your company in the summer. I'll make sure everyone else is in the know too.

[loopyR31]

Nostalgia is Jason. He is in New York. Has imported a couple of cars. I helped him get his NISMO in.

The other guys in Florida, are typical Florida illegal importers.

My company is International Vehicle Importers. http://www.importavehicle.com or https://www.facebook.com/importavehicle

We are a licensed and bonded California car dealer. I have been in the car buisiness my whole life. Importing and exporting cars. Up to eight NISMO R32's imported/here/coming.

My personal car is NISMO #500.

Hitting curbs at Buttonwillow in SoCal.

Thanks for the info. I did some searching and didn't see Nostalgia Imports listed as a dealer in NY so I passed on them, their address was also coming up to some person's house in the middle of no where which was odd. Still making some rounds and likely call you guys next. Not going to bother with those others since they have those illegal cars that are not 25 years old.

[JTR32gtst]

Thanks for looking out Sean. Me and a colleague from Michigan planned on purchasing our R32s through Rivsu. I was on the edge of biting the bullet since I live in Florida, and buying through them meant no extra transporting fees to my place of residence, but I backed out.

What Rivsu has going is good. It is sad that they can't even pay a simple dealer bond (yet they can give a car away). Hope they get things sorted out soon with the bond.

Me and my colleague will be in contact with your company in the summer. I'll make sure everyone else is in the know too.

Why don't you ask Steve at Rivsu first instead of hearing second hand from someone who has a personal issue with someone. Just throwing that out there.

[tyndago]

Why don't you ask Steve at Rivsu first instead of hearing second hand from someone who has a personal issue with someone. Just throwing that out there.

Steve has responded in this thread. Why doesn't he respond with proof of his dealer license?

Don't stand up for the slimeball.

[loopyR31]

Now I'm stuck in this loop looking around to check if places are dealers or not before I call them about a car lol

Here is my list so far

JDM Legends - Have not found the state's search site yet but these guys have some really nice cars
https://www.jdmlegends.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/JDM-Lege ... 2485827055

GTR Garage - Couldn't find a dealers license for this business
http://www.gtr-garage.com/
https://www.facebook.com/GTRGarageJapan

Otaku Garage - Couldn't find a dealers license for this business
http://www.otakugarage.com/
https://www.facebook.com/otaku.garage

Nostalgia Imports - Couldn't find a dealers license for this business
http://nostalgiaimports.com/
https://www.facebook.com/NostalgiaImports

International Vehicle Importers - Couldn't find a dealers license for this business
http://importavehicle.com
https://www.facebook.com/importavehicle

Japanese Classics LLC - Couldn't find a dealers license for this business
http://www.japaneseclassicsllc.com/
https://www.facebook.com/JapaneseClassicsLLC

Other places I didn't bother with because I saw they were selling cars newer than 25 years old which should be illegal

http://blackopsperformance.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Op ... 7742104229

http://www.sohoimports.net/

http://dragint.com/
https://www.facebook.com/DragInternational

Still some more out there I'm looking at but have not had time to do any searching or contact them yet. In all fairness I'm no pro at this so it's always possible I didn't do the searching correctly.

[tyndago]

"International Vehicle Importers - Couldn't find a dealers license for this business
http://importavehicle.com
https://www.facebook.com/importavehicle"

IVI is a name under the corporation. The Corporation name is WDC Global Exports. DLR # 82653 in California.

863 W. Holt Blvd
Ontario, CA 91762.

[loopyR31]

Oh! That explains why I didn't find it. So it's like a partnership agreement between the two businesses. Maybe some of those others I was searching for fall into that same criteria, guess I'll need to call them to ask.

Thanks!

[tyndago]

Oh! That explains why I didn't find it. So it's like a partnership agreement between the two businesses. Maybe some of those others I was searching for fall into that same criteria, guess I'll need to call them to ask. Thanks!

It's called a fictitious business name in California. For instance, if you as a person open a Shoe Store, and want to do business as " Jeff's Shoe Store" then you would have a fictitious business name. That lets you open a bank account, write checks etc.

Corporations can also act in the same way to open names under the corporation. In this case - WDC Global Exports, which is one side of the business, doesn't make a lot of sense for our importing side. So we file a fictitious business name, so we can legally do business as IVI.

Mostly we export cars, trucks, RV's, and trailers overseas. Lots of our business the last eight years has been shipping to Australia and New Zealand. Before then, in the late 1980's and 1990's we shipped a lot of vehicles to Japan. We really do have more than 25 years experience dealing with import and export of vehicles. Something that very few other people can say.

Our place in Ontario, California. Surrounded in red.

[AZhitman]

Yeah, most companies' business licenses aren't necessarily under their "public" name... For example, NICOclub.com and the NICOclub Network are d/b/a (doing business as) HDS Holdings, Inc. (as are BRMexhaust.com and Zpowersteering.com).

"Fictitious business name" is somewhat misleading, since it sounds "sketchy" - but it's a perfectly legitimate thing, and quite common.

Most importation companies are involved in a broad range of global import / export business, because the infrastructure required to service one small niche (such as JUST importing R32s) would be cost-prohibitive. Besides, those ships have to go both ways.

Of the ones listed above, the only ones I can comment on are JDM Legends and IVI - I'd have no issues doing business with either of them.

[MHPALA]

Thanks for looking out Sean. Me and a colleague from Michigan planned on purchasing our R32s through Rivsu. I was on the edge of biting the bullet since I live in Florida, and buying through them meant no extra transporting fees to my place of residence, but I backed out.

What Rivsu has going is good. It is sad that they can't even pay a simple dealer bond (yet they can give a car away). Hope they get things sorted out soon with the bond.

Me and my colleague will be in contact with your company in the summer. I'll make sure everyone else is in the know too.

Why don't you ask Steve at Rivsu first instead of hearing second hand from someone who has a personal issue with someone. Just throwing that out there.

The evidence provided warrants no need to ask, and Steve's unwillingness to reply further justifies Sean's argument.

[loopyR31]

Maybe tyndago didn't find anything because their business is setup like tyndago's business or something. I didn't find any thing on tyndago's business until he said what their dealer license was under which was a completely unrelated name.

I don't think anything bad about someone not responding to this thread to be honest. I don't think most companies out there would hardly spare a minute to engage in internet arguments and debates. It's not like JSP went out of their way to go onto this forum to respond to the thread here so I wouldn't fault any other business for the same thing. I called or visited all of the places I looked into for purchasing my next car. To me, seeing someone's place in person is more valuable then reading any internet information. Not saying this is the case here but I've had my cars at plenty of performance shops in the past where spoiled little kids would write negative reviews or comments about those shops just because they didn't have money or didn't get their way, yet the shops were top of the line in the area. I didn't see any illegal cars on the Rivsu site so I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. Which I'm in Florida so I may just go pay them a visit and check things out for myself and report back here lol.

[loopyR31]

Oh! That explains why I didn't find it. So it's like a partnership agreement between the two businesses. Maybe some of those others I was searching for fall into that same criteria, guess I'll need to call them to ask. Thanks!

It's called a fictitious business name in California. For instance, if you as a person open a Shoe Store, and want to do business as " Jeff's Shoe Store" then you would have a fictitious business name. That lets you open a bank account, write checks etc.

Corporations can also act in the same way to open names under the corporation. In this case - WDC Global Exports, which is one side of the business, doesn't make a lot of sense for our importing side. So we file a fictitious business name, so we can legally do business as IVI.

Mostly we export cars, trucks, RV's, and trailers overseas. Lots of our business the last eight years has been shipping to Australia and New Zealand. Before then, in the late 1980's and 1990's we shipped a lot of vehicles to Japan. We really do have more than 25 years experience dealing with import and export of vehicles. Something that very few other people can say.

Our place in Ontario, California. Surrounded in red.

Right, got ya. I know what a DBA is but didn't see anything tied to that dealer company you listed so that's what lead to me believe it was some sort of agreement between the two entities instead. Thanks for clearing that up though

[JTR32gtst]

Maybe tyndago didn't find anything because their business is setup like tyndago's business or something. I didn't find any thing on tyndago's business until he said what their dealer license was under which was a completely unrelated name.

I don't think anything bad about someone not responding to this thread to be honest. I don't think most companies out there would hardly spare a minute to engage in internet arguments and debates. It's not like JSP went out of their way to go onto this forum to respond to the thread here so I wouldn't fault any other business for the same thing. I called or visited all of the places I looked into for purchasing my next car. To me, seeing someone's place in person is more valuable then reading any internet information. Not saying this is the case here but I've had my cars at plenty of performance shops in the past where spoiled little kids would write negative reviews or comments about those shops just because they didn't have money or didn't get their way, yet the shops were top of the line in the area. I didn't see any illegal cars on the Rivsu site so I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. Which I'm in Florida so I may just go pay them a visit and check things out for myself and report back here lol.

Intelligence being used. Good post.