is it safe to cut wheel studs
is it safe to cut wheel studs
like it says in the title. I bought 60mm wheel studs because i wasnt sure 50mm would be long enough. This is temporary until i get new wheels. I cant clear my coilovers so i have 10mm wheel spacer and also 5mm wheel spacers. Also safe if you use 15mm on extended studs? This is a temporary setup until i get new wheels.
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No offense, but that's not smart at all.
You went to the trouble of buying and installing 60mm wheel studs (a big job) so you can run 2 different spacers (unsafe) so that your wheels (which are the wrong offset) don't touch your coilovers (which are useless)?
Don't cut the wheel studs. Several reasons, just don't do it.
Why wouldn't you just take off the coilovers temporarily? They're certainly not a necessity.
Why do people feel the need to install coilovers? Unless you're among the most hardcore drivers, they're useless (and handle worse than a good spring / shock combo).
Maybe I'm completely confused, help me comprehend this.
You went to the trouble of buying and installing 60mm wheel studs (a big job) so you can run 2 different spacers (unsafe) so that your wheels (which are the wrong offset) don't touch your coilovers (which are useless)?
Don't cut the wheel studs. Several reasons, just don't do it.
Why wouldn't you just take off the coilovers temporarily? They're certainly not a necessity.
Why do people feel the need to install coilovers? Unless you're among the most hardcore drivers, they're useless (and handle worse than a good spring / shock combo).
Maybe I'm completely confused, help me comprehend this.
Re: (98240)
bcs stupid questions deserve stupid answers, HAHA.
Why are you cutting your wheel studs? Like loveless said, use open ended ones.
15mm on extended (60mm) should be fine, given that you periodically check the torque on the wheels & get a good spacer that won't crack in half (ebay ones, some ppl have horror stories, some love it).
To a lot of us on this forum, this question is almost like "is it safe to street race?" or "is it safe to drive w/ one eye closed" etc etc. There is no reason to use an extended wheel stud and cut it. They come in 2 sizes (50 & 60) for that exact reason.
Why are you cutting your wheel studs? Like loveless said, use open ended ones.
15mm on extended (60mm) should be fine, given that you periodically check the torque on the wheels & get a good spacer that won't crack in half (ebay ones, some ppl have horror stories, some love it).
To a lot of us on this forum, this question is almost like "is it safe to street race?" or "is it safe to drive w/ one eye closed" etc etc. There is no reason to use an extended wheel stud and cut it. They come in 2 sizes (50 & 60) for that exact reason.
Re: (brokeAs240sx)
Simple:
-don't cut the studs-don't use two spacers..EVER.-Get proper length studs and a *shudder* single hub centric spacer if you absolutely must.
also, search around on this stuff.....and I can't imagine why you'd think two spacers were a good idea..temporary or not. You can temporarily make a frame rail out of wood...but you SHOULDN'T!
-Chet
-don't cut the studs-don't use two spacers..EVER.-Get proper length studs and a *shudder* single hub centric spacer if you absolutely must.
also, search around on this stuff.....and I can't imagine why you'd think two spacers were a good idea..temporary or not. You can temporarily make a frame rail out of wood...but you SHOULDN'T!
-Chet
i wasnt going to use two spacer on one wheels i i didnt type it correctly what i meant to say is that i have two 10mm and also two 15mm. I got the two so i can see the difference then when i found out which ones i needed i was going to take the two that i didnt use back to the store and get the same size for the rear
Modified by 98240 at 6:11 PM 1/6/2006
Modified by 98240 at 6:11 PM 1/6/2006
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Not that it matters... I know plenty of people who stack spacers no problem.
just make sure you torque it down plenty of different times when you first put em on.
People get coilovers on drift cars because 30 degrees of body roll looks/feels like dog ***. also for quicker transitions and lower CG height.
Theres no reason not to cut studs down besides the fact that you could screw up the thread at the end. People that run +20 spacers cut the OEM studs down to fit under the wheel. its not like its load bearing past the lug.
That being said, just buy some open ended lugs since its easier and if you ever run a big slipon you wont be SOL.
just make sure you torque it down plenty of different times when you first put em on.
People get coilovers on drift cars because 30 degrees of body roll looks/feels like dog ***. also for quicker transitions and lower CG height.
Theres no reason not to cut studs down besides the fact that you could screw up the thread at the end. People that run +20 spacers cut the OEM studs down to fit under the wheel. its not like its load bearing past the lug.
That being said, just buy some open ended lugs since its easier and if you ever run a big slipon you wont be SOL.
good job russell for not freaking out like everyone else.
if you decide to do it, just thread a nut, open ended lugnut, or die onto the lug before you cut it. when you unthread it, it will clean up the threads and you'll be all set. back to stock length.
though i don't see why you don't just put the stock ones back on.
if you decide to do it, just thread a nut, open ended lugnut, or die onto the lug before you cut it. when you unthread it, it will clean up the threads and you'll be all set. back to stock length.
though i don't see why you don't just put the stock ones back on.
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I don't think anyone was freaking out, and I'm real sorry you didn't get the answer YOU wanted, I'm just trying to be realistic.
Cutting 60mm studs (I'm asuming they're NISMOs) will weaken them (heat).
The offset of the wheel matters because sliding sideways on stock wheels with spacers is not real bright...
You asked, I'm just trying to give you an answer that's not based on "ricer math".
Not trying to be offensive, but if you want a car to do something it wasn't designed to do, you need to set it up properly.
Cutting 60mm studs (I'm asuming they're NISMOs) will weaken them (heat).
The offset of the wheel matters because sliding sideways on stock wheels with spacers is not real bright...
You asked, I'm just trying to give you an answer that's not based on "ricer math".
Not trying to be offensive, but if you want a car to do something it wasn't designed to do, you need to set it up properly.
i got the 60mm spacers because i can only work on my car over the weekend. The place i got the studs from are only open on weekdays. With the 60mm wheel studs i figured if i had to use the 15mm wheel spacers i would have enough lenght in the stud to be ok. Then if i had to use the 10mm it would also fit but i could cut since i dont know how much of the stud will stick out from the wheel. I didnt know if you could put a 15mm spacer on a 50mm stud since i know nothing about studs. if that makes sense.
Modified by 98240 at 10:33 PM 1/6/2006
Modified by 98240 at 10:33 PM 1/6/2006
its not a real big deal to me but i post because i am asking a question that i think is legit. I am a steelworker and we cut bolts sometimes. I just wasnt positive about with studs. It isnt a nismo stud. It is a peak stud almost as expensive. I am running this setup temporarily until i get new wheels. I am not going to be sliding around with the setup on it now.
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Re: (AZhitman)
Thats a stretch... I'd bet they would get hotter sitting next to glowing brakes than being lopped off.AZhitman wrote:ICutting 60mm studs (I'm asuming they're NISMOs) will weaken them (heat)..
Uhh... I don't know what your getting at there... the only reason not to drift on stock wheels is they grip and look like trash.AZhitman wrote:The offset of the wheel matters because sliding sideways on stock wheels with spacers is not real bright....
At the same time... you don't need to flip out and over think things like your Nismo's legal department.AZhitman wrote:You asked, I'm just trying to give you an answer that's not based on "ricer math".
Is it effective? - yes. is your wheel gonna spontaneously combust? - no. is it the the best idea... No... probably not.
My opinion on it is that... if you for some reason cant find open ended lugs it would be fine... but you probably don't want to do it if you dont have to.
Re: (McRussellPants)
My opinion is that doing things improperly in relation to car dynamics is ab ad, bad idea. Cutting studs is bad, because the begning of the thread will be screwed, and you'll negate the benefit of the longer stud in the first place (better thread engagement with a higher 'pad' wheel). SPacres are just..god...dumb. Search around fot this. Myself , smothSR, C-kwick and anthony(dori-dori) had an in depth discussion about this a while ago..
conclusion? Buy the correct wheels for your car, don't band-aide anything.
Also, on the 30 degrees of body roll, etc thing.
Feeling like crap and actually influenceing the handling dynamics of a car are different things. Likewise, -3 deg. of camber isn't helping anyone unless you've actually taken pyrometer reading after a hard-road coarse run and determined that your tires/suspemsion are rolling over the tire THAT badly (which I seriously doubt), a suspension needs compression/travel in order to grip the road, period...otherwise you slide around on every little bump.
Also, drifintg or any other 'racing' on spacers is bad due to the ammount of stress they will see, and you're alsoreducing your effective wheel rate by running them, and ahving TWO sammiched together is doubly bad, because the pad can slip in yet another location (3!!!!) under stress, and can cause problems....
I'm locking this thread. It's a rediculous discussion to begin with.
ALso, I, nor AZ are NISMO's "legal" end, we're here to try and prevent people from doing stupid things that could possibly endanger themselves or their cars, while still providing help and solid advice when possible. Simple as that.
-Chet
conclusion? Buy the correct wheels for your car, don't band-aide anything.
Also, on the 30 degrees of body roll, etc thing.
Feeling like crap and actually influenceing the handling dynamics of a car are different things. Likewise, -3 deg. of camber isn't helping anyone unless you've actually taken pyrometer reading after a hard-road coarse run and determined that your tires/suspemsion are rolling over the tire THAT badly (which I seriously doubt), a suspension needs compression/travel in order to grip the road, period...otherwise you slide around on every little bump.
Also, drifintg or any other 'racing' on spacers is bad due to the ammount of stress they will see, and you're alsoreducing your effective wheel rate by running them, and ahving TWO sammiched together is doubly bad, because the pad can slip in yet another location (3!!!!) under stress, and can cause problems....
I'm locking this thread. It's a rediculous discussion to begin with.
ALso, I, nor AZ are NISMO's "legal" end, we're here to try and prevent people from doing stupid things that could possibly endanger themselves or their cars, while still providing help and solid advice when possible. Simple as that.
-Chet