Is it possible to put Chrysler 2.0L in Nissan 240SX

[delltreeguy]

Is it possible to put a Chrysler 2.0L engine in a Nissan 240SX. The motor and Transmission is FWD platform. Would I be able to use the transmission out of the nissan or from the 2.0L? What about computers and the gauge cluster? What kind of job am I looking at?

Thanks,Matt M

[Sil40_Mayhem]

I'm not the most technically adept person here, but I will do what I can until someone more knowledgeable drops by...

First question, why? Is it built? Unless it is, I can only see this as a downgrade since the stock KA isn't that bad at all. Obviously, said swap would not be possible unless the block is set up for both FWD and RWD configurations (as is the case with older 4G63s, IIRC). Then, comes the trasnmission, or rather transaxle, which wouldn't work in a RWD car, since you would have no rearward output to the driveshaft (unless you're trying to make the world's first FWD S chassis). Regarding wiring and the computer, I would imagine it's possible with a bit of time and a couple of wiring diagrams. The gauge cluster? You got me there. But given the first two issues I've raised, it would be a moot point anyway.

Anyho, hope this helps, or at least fills the void until a real answer comes along.

[Repo Man]

Wow, I'm not flaming, but damn, WHY would you want to do that???

To answer your question, sure, anything is POSSIBLE. I've literally seen a 500ci Cadillac engine in a Yugo before but it took MAD fabrication. So, give us a little backstory here.

[johngass]

some people just dont think.

[180fan]

I lol'd

[delltreeguy]

I have a lot of experience with Chrysler's 2.0L engine. They are the engine I know best. Done a lot of work on them. I can build a nice 240SX with a stock motor or a SR20, but I have some time and money on my hands. I guess I would just like a challenge. Chrysler's 2.0L engine is a pretty mean motor. Very strong and customizable. My only issue is how to get that motor to work with a RWD platform. It's just an idea. Something to do for fun. No one has done it before. No need to flame. Who knows, might be cool. I really appreciate all of the words of wisdom. I will keep you posted if I decide to do it. I just need to figure out how I am going to do it.

Signed,Matt

[480sx]

Man... I dont know where to begin..

You really dont want the hassle of taking a FWD engine and trying to put in in a RWD car. I mean, im sure you know that the transmission on a FWD car are directly underneath the block, running parallel to the front two tires. I honestly cant even fathom the amount of work that would be involved in a project like that.

Every engine is customizable, heck i have heard of people with engineering and electronics degrees getting 250 MPG out of their Toyota Prius's with stacks and stacks of Li Ion Batteries and some crazy wiring.

Also, if you know ANY engine well, you should be able to learn another one without to much difficulty, as long as were not talking BMW or Porche.. Lol we had an older BMW 750IL at one time, not sure if any of you know but those came with the v12 Lamb engines in them.. Basically two inline six's sandwiched together and connected at the crank, talk about a freaken mess(a fast, 6000 pound, fast mess ^^).

Even if you finished your project, you would be in a world of your own without any support. Granted, thats ok if you are a pro fabricator/mechanic, but....... Its nice to have someone else out there that can help you when you hit a wall.

Also, i dont know jack about the Chrysler 2.0, but i have heard that it is a good moter. Wouldnt your aftermarket parts choices be really limited and expensive?

If you do decide to go with your project, i really hope that you have an amazing set of skills and a shop to match them, becuase for the project you want to do you will definitely need it.

[480sx]

Oh and as for your other two questions, no, you cant use a nissan transmission.... You could use the original gauge cluster though.

[480sx]

Time and money on your hands, i missed that, RB25DET Swap FTW!!!!

[boriquaS13]

Why? Nothing better than nissan performance sr, or rb all the way

[mbsmith8684]

Chrysler 2.0? As a mechanic and a crazy Nissan fanatic, I can tell you to smack your head on the wall for even thinking of something like that. I won't get too far into it, but I will tell you this: Working on many kinds of cars for a living, 50+ hours a week, tells me that the most common Chrysler DOHC 2.0L is junk and it is not a "mean" motor by a long shot. A well tuned and taken care of N/A KA or SR motor will beat a Chrysler by snapping your fingers. I have a beater B13 sentra w/ a stock GA16 in it with 199,000 miles that eats Neons for breakfast. I've seen a decent cheap build on a KA push 380HP @15 PSI of boost, a N/A KA with a nice build push 362HP w/12.0:1 comp., and a nice build on an SR pushing 574HP @22 PSI of boost. So think about it next time before you ask such a dumb question, and offend a true Nissan lover.

[480sx]

Fact is, any engine can become a monster with money, time and knowledge. I have heard of people building the 2.0, and its not a crap engine, but it isnt nearly as easy to get higher numbers as with a turbo KA or SR, or even a RB for that mater.

Why are you flaming people on your sixth post here at nico? Did it offend you with your vast amount of experience here?

The only dumb question is the one that you dont ask.

Anywho, THERES NO EMOTICON FOR WHAT IM FEELING NOW! Oh wait yes there is..

[delltreeguy]

480sx I really appreciate your possitive attitude and words of wisdom. I'm not saying the Chrysler motor is better than Japan's high performance motors. I would like to try something different. I don't know about you all, but I work on cars because I enjoy the fun and the challenge. It's not always about who has the fastest car, who has more boost, or how much money you paid for your motor. I think it's more about what kind of expirience you get from working on your own automobile. How much pride, time, and dedication you have in it. I would like to do some unique. I'm not saying I am going to build a motor and claim it's better than everybody else's. It would be a lot of fun, and it would definately be something different.

Thanks,Matt

[180fan]

Well i guess it'd be different. First time I've heard of some one considering an fwd 2L Detroit into an rwd japanese platform. I guess it is do-able if you want to be something of a pioneer in this, but not really sure where you'd be able to get 1. enough clearance for the various manifolds without some serious sledge hammer work on the firewall and 2. the extra supports for the other mounts you'd need to put an fwd oriented engine into the bay...unless you plan on making it rwd in which case it might not be so bad but still alot of fabbing and you'd probably it a nightmare with the sump. At the end of the day though, it's pretty hard to think of any real compelling reason why anyone would want to do this. The time and money it'd take to get this kind of work done (including modified front suspension to clear the axles that would now be going through it, etc) would at the end make it pretty ridiculous and a cash pit. The whole argument of "hey I want to be different" just doesn't make much sense. Most of the big bad bruiser swaps have been done unless you're talking about a sweet v10+ that might get crammed into the 40's engine bay. That'd be pretty sweet, but I'm sure that who ever would do something like that would show us a pretty beat up wallet and worn down credit card afterwards...

[ZiG]

If you have a 240, sell it. If you don't, please don't buy one.

[delltreeguy]

I have two 240's. I have one 89 and the other is a 92 DOHC.

[Cpt_Impossible]

I would like to try something different. I don't know about you all, but I work on cars because I enjoy the fun and the challenge. It's not always about who has the fastest car, who has more boost, or how much money you paid for your motor.

What the hell kinda nonsense is that? You want to put years of your life and thousands of dollars down the drain just to say that you did something different? For the time and energy you would spend doing something worthless like this, why not do it with something that is the fastest, does have the most boost. The way you want to do it, the only claim that you are gonna have is that YOU spent the most money on your engine and it was all a waste and a nightmare. What will you have contributed to the community? You will have destroyed a perfectly good S chasis...

[freemanboi]

Your looking at a big job but it could all be done with junkyard parts.You can take a gauge cluster from a neon and try to get that to work but other than that lots of custom wiring.

Engine If your familar with the 2.0 and 2.4 420a(mitsu designation) You can use a jeep transmission because it mates to the 2.4 transmission. II would roll with the srt4 2.4 engine if i were you alot of those 2.0 parts are hard to find now. theres a few places near the base of the block were your can make a engine mount. You could also make a harness type mounting system.

It can be done but like many of these guys said its not worth it, the 2.0 engine is square and pretty decent but it still suffers from micro fractures with high hp applications. The oiling system is not as good either and you can run into problems. The ka24 isnt to far off spec with the bore and stroke in fact its a lil better. Take the time to learn the new engine just dont dive into mods.

[S13 240SX]

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[LuKA]

Yea, we should do that, starting with you. Anyways, your other big obstacle with a FWD into a RWD chassis is the cooling system. I don't know about the Chrysler motor, but from what I used to read about the old AE86's is that when swapping FWD drive motor (such as the 4AGE 20v) into a RWD chassis, all the cooling inlets/outlets and distributor point at the firewall. I'm not trying to down you for the idea, but I would say at least find a Mitsubishi Starion/ Chrysler Conquest for this project, so some of your mount points, wiring, etc. will be somewhat similar at least.