iphone compatibility

[papasride]

Does anyone know the deal with the iphone compatibility? For some reason when I plug it in, it says the plug will not work with this phone and will not charge. I know it's mainly for the ipod, but I was hoping for some type of setting change?

Will this effect the bluetooth capabilities?

[Timmbo]

Does anyone know the deal with the iphone compatibility? For some reason when I plug it in, it says the plug will not work with this phone and will not charge. I know it's mainly for the ipod, but I was hoping for some type of setting change?

Will this effect the bluetooth capabilities?

Looks like the iPhone should work just fine in terms of Bluetooth. Check out the Bluetooth site below on Infiniti's website.

http://www.infiniti.com/blueto...6&y=5

[Riker2k]

Not sure it's much help but I paired my iPhone a couple of times with it without any problems.

Didn't try the iPod plugin functionality on the iPhone but I dimly recall someone else on the forum saying that they get the same message about charging but that it actually still plays music fine. So I guess that would confirm what you are seeing when you plug it into the iPod connector.

[Charisma]

My husband's original iPhone will charge and play over the cable, but my 3G iPhone will not, they changed the connector ever so slightly. There will be adapters available in the near future (I think September) and I can't help but think that car makers will start offering the new cable as well.

[Mark Booth]

When Apple introduced the iPod Dock Connector way back when, they designed it with TWO different charging pins. One pin is for Firewire charging, which is 12 volts. The other is for USB charging, which is 4 volts. Until the iPhone 3G, all iPods and iPhones with a Dock Connector supported BOTH types of charging (USB and Firewire). Unfortunately, Apple decided to leave the 12v Firewire pin DISCONNECTED inside the iPhone 3G! Firewire 12v output will NOT charge the iPhone 3G. It MUST be charged using a USB 4v type of device.

Sadly, the EX35 is one of those that uses the 12v pin on the dock cable and it will NOT charge an iPhone 3G.

Mark

[nghivdo]

GRRRRRRR..... Today was my SECOND trip to the Apple Store (not including 1 trip to an AT&T store, calling AT&T stores every other day, & checking Apple's Store's online iPhone availability EVERY night after 9pm) & (FINALLY!) I got my 3G iPhone after waiting 40 minutes. Set it up with my MacBook in-store, all excited to finally have it.

Out to the EX... Ok, plays music fine...but wait... doesn't friggin' charge?!?!?!!! WHAT-THE-HECKKKK!!! But my 1st Gen iPhone did!!! GRRRRRRRRR!!!!! So will someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASSSSEEE post/email me when any 3rd party or Infiniti iPod cable that charges the 3G iPhone is available? Guess I'll just use my 1st Gen as a jukebox in the EX for awhile... I (still) love Apple, but you cannot even believe how PEEEEE'd I am over this whole iPhone 3G fiasco over the past few weeks, and now this! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (At least the web on 3G is decently usable now tho...)

BTW... Bluetooth works just fine in the EX, with the 3G. Also, all the controls via Infiniti iPod integration work fine as well. AS LONG AS YOUR IPHONE HAS BATTERY POWER! GRRRRR......

[Riker2k]

The charging compatibility is definitely frustrating. I don't think it's solely limited to the iPhone 3G though as my 1st gen iPhone won't charge either and neither will my 5th Gen iPod. To my knowledge, Apple removed charging via firewire awhile back and before iPhone was even launched.

That being said, perhaps this little device will do the trick when it becomes available?

Link to CableJive --> http://cablejive.com/iphone_3g....html

Colin

[Mark Booth]

Apple did NOT remove Firewire charging before the iPhone 3G. What Apple removed several iPod generations ago was Firewire SYNCING. But 12v Firewire charging cables (such as many car cigarette lighters) have worked perfectly to charge ALL of the latest iPods (including the iPod Touch) AND the original (non-3G) iPhone. The iPhone 3G is the FIRST (and, so far, ONLY) iPod/iPhone product with a dock connector that does NOT support 12v Firewire charging.

And, yes, my fifth-generation iPod AND my original (non-3G) iPhone charge perfectly fine when connected to the Infiniti EX35's iPod dock connector.

Mark

[bttek]

Thanks Mark for the great info on this. I was seriously thinking of upgrading to the new I-phone but now with this info, I think I will hold off.

Any idea as to why Apple would do this? If there are so many companies that use the 12V line you have to wonder what the hell were they thinking???

[Charisma]

I sent an e-mail to Infiniti asking if/when they were going to make a cable to work with the 3g iPhone and have not recieved a response. As soon as I get it I'll post it here.

[splautz]

Would this device at the link below fix the iphone 3g charging problem? And are there any other messages that come up besides the charging issue? I'd hate to get a new iphone 3g or the latest touch, use this converter, yet still get some kind of compatibility message. Can anyone with the latest iphone or touch try this converter out? I heard the latest nano couldn't be charged either using the EX35 cable, but I'm unable to confirm that. But anyway, I like how this converter adds an additional usb port too, so it'd be nice if this fixed the issue.

http://cablejive.com/iphone_3g....html

[dividedhighw]

You might want to check out this thread too:zer...ipods(There are links to a couple more alternatives.)

Cheers,David

[Punjab]

splatz it will along with many other similar products as for the additional mini usb on side. its similar to a spliter to say charge an additional accesory, also see scosche. This problem is caused by the manufacture of the ipod connector to use the firewire port as power, however new iphone 3g and basically 2008 and 2009 apple products eliminated the firewire port compatibility thus rendering the ability to charge through the firewire ports/ pins on dock connector useless.

http://www.scosche.com/passport

I have an iphone but i do not dock it because i need to see txts and email as i drive i plan to modify the center speaker with a dock so i can see the phone and charge too..

hopefully this helps

[TimGinCentralNJ]

Sorry to revive a very old discussion about iPhones, but I've recently run across an issue with my 4th Generation iPod video (30GB) and my '08 EX. Since I have XM, I never bothered using my iPod until now but not only does my old iPod not charge with the OEM Infiniti iPod cable....for some reason my iPod no longer goes into "sleep" mode either. So, basically even though I may be listening to music via another source like satellite, or Musicbox, my iPod continues playing until dead. Just did a battery replacement on my ipod and have had no other issues.

My understanding is the OEM Infinity iPod cable was designed with the orig 12v pin configuration. So technically, I shouldn't have a problem with the OEM cable, right?

Thoughts? Any new interface cables made for our cars which work with older iPods like mine?

TIA,
Tim

[XIS]

Happens to me in my EX35 also - it depends on the iPod. Some get charged and some dont. If yours is one that doesn't charge while plugged into your car, it will die... each time you start the car, it gets power and thinks it is being plugged in to play. Since the battery died, it goes back to the beginning.

I started using my son's 3rd Gen Nano with the OEM cable and it works great. That problem solved!

[TimGinCentralNJ]

Happens to me in my EX35 also - it depends on the iPod. Some get charged and some dont. If yours is one that doesn't charge while plugged into your car, it will die... each time you start the car, it gets power and thinks it is being plugged in to play. Since the battery died, it goes back to the beginning.

I started using my son's 3rd Gen Nano with the OEM cable and it works great. That problem solved!

Ok, so I'm not losing my mind after all

Your explanation matches perfectly what I've been seeing. Even if I'm not listening to my iPod, and turn the car off, it seems to keep from going into "sleep" mode and then....voila.....dead iPod battery. I'd love to understand what's behind an iPod simply "working or not working" in our cars. Thinking about maybe trying a new cable if I can source one for not too much money and see if that makes any difference whatsoever.

Also, I've been thinking about trying to use the compact flash card reader as a music source. No idea whether one can present the music as "playlists" (maybe you just create a few folders as a "playlists", then dump the music you want into each?), what the interface looks like on the screen--or whether the ID3 tag info is also displayed. I don't update my music very often so I could just leave my iPod in my old 7-Series, then use the CF card in the EX. And in my wife's new Ford, I can stream Pandora or stored music via Bluetooth from my Android smartphone.

Have you ever tried the CF card just for giggles?

Thanks again for the information, XIS.....

Cheers,
Tim

[XIS]

Ok, so I'm not losing my mind after all

Your explanation matches perfectly what I've been seeing. Even if I'm not listening to my iPod, and turn the car off, it seems to keep from going into "sleep" mode and then....voila.....dead iPod battery. I'd love to understand what's behind an iPod simply "working or not working" in our cars. Thinking about maybe trying a new cable if I can source one for not too much money and see if that makes any difference whatsoever.

Also, I've been thinking about trying to use the compact flash card reader as a music source. No idea whether one can present the music as "playlists" (maybe you just create a few folders as a "playlists", then dump the music you want into each?), what the interface looks like on the screen--or whether the ID3 tag info is also displayed. I don't update my music very often so I could just leave my iPod in my old 7-Series, then use the CF card in the EX. And in my wife's new Ford, I can stream Pandora or stored music via Bluetooth from my Android smartphone.

Have you ever tried the CF card just for giggles?

Thanks again for the information, XIS.....

Cheers,
Tim

As far as the iPods go, there is a list out there somewhere that I found a while back that lists all the different versions / Generations of the iPhone, iPod Nano and iPod Touch as far as which generation will charge with the OEM cable on the older EX's / G's & M's.... As far as the Nano's go, the 2nd and 3rd generation will charge via the cable and work perfectly. I haven't ever tried my iTouch (it is TOO hot here in the summer to leave it in your car without destroying it)

My EX doesn't have the CF card thingy. I have the Bose with 6 disc changer.