Intrax Sway Bar Kit

[Scooby24]

Has anyone purchased and used these sway bars? I've found a set for 268 dollars online and they seem a good size...29mm in front and I 22mm in the back.

I'm curious to know the impression people have from these. Does the car remain much flatter into a corner? Is oversteer cut down a bit?

here's the link if anyone's interested

http://www.seffects.com/parts/INT607003.htm

[Anand]

I personally think, swayt bar is a sway bar, you will get the same effect as far as we go. if you are a pro, then I don't know..

I just bought a used stock way for the rear and it works great for me!

I left the front stock one on there since it is think enpough. I am thinking upgrading the endlinks to solid ones from SPL though.. that might help a lot..

[Scooby24]

I personally think, swayt bar is a sway bar, you will get the same effect as far as we go. if you are a pro, then I don't know..

I just bought a used stock way for the rear and it works great for me!

I left the front stock one on there since it is think enpough. I am thinking upgrading the endlinks to solid ones from SPL though.. that might help a lot..

Well actually I am a sponsored and competitive autocross racer and I came from having one of Kansas City's fastest STi's to now a nearly stock 240.

I've only got Eibach Sportlines on it right now and it handles pretty good but still has a bit more body roll and desired and it oversteers quite aggressively.

Thicker sways will provide less body roll and the stiffer the front the less oversteer and 29 mm is the biggest I've heard. I just don't know if it's TOO big and will give me understeer.

[InsanityInc]

29 is pretty big. You should try the whiteline bars. Front is 26 or 27 if I recall, and rear is 22. But the big thing is they're adjustable.

[skydragoness]

Well actually I am a sponsored and competitive autocross racer and I came from having one of Kansas City's fastest STi's to now a nearly stock 240.

I've only got Eibach Sportlines on it right now and it handles pretty good but still has a bit more body roll and desired and it oversteers quite aggressively.

Thicker sways will provide less body roll and the stiffer the front the less oversteer and 29 mm is the biggest I've heard. I just don't know if it's TOO big and will give me understeer.

Gah!! You have Eibach Sportlines? Those are horrible, do a search on 'em and buy yourself a better set of springs. I used to run them on my deceased S13 and they blew my front AGX's in exactly one year (the drop from the Sportlines also voided the AGX warranty). I made the mistake of not doing research, back when i had my car in 2002 everyone had Sportlines until more companies started making superior units. Drop by the Suspension/Wheel/Tire forum, Chet (Exar-Kun) has a whole FAQ written with specs on sway bars, springs, tires, etc. I made the switch from Sportlines to Suspension Technique springs which have a linear rating, so they're much more predictable and very stiff and the drop won't void my AGX warranty (only 1.5"--which is more than enough IMO)

Note: I'm not flaming your or anything, just letting you know from personal experience those springs suck. And yes I autocross (not hardcore, could only make it a few times this year since my other coupe got totaled and i'm trying to get my new s13 up-to-speed)
Modified by skydragoness at 2:45 PM 8/30/2005

[skydragoness]

Oh and here's a pic of my new s13 after swapping the stuff off my other coupe so you can see the drop the Suspension Techniques did.

Before:

after (not a great pic):

[Scooby24]

Gah!! You have Eibach Sportlines? Those are horrible, do a search on 'em and buy yourself a better set of springs. I used to run them on my deceased S13 and they blew my front AGX's in exactly one year (the drop from the Sportlines also voided the AGX warranty). I made the mistake of not doing research, back when i had my car in 2002 everyone had Sportlines until more companies started making superior units. Drop by the Suspension/Wheel/Tire forum, Chet (Exar-Kun) has a whole FAQ written with specs on sway bars, springs, tires, etc. I made the switch from Sportlines to Suspension Technique springs which have a linear rating, so they're much more predictable and very stiff and the drop won't void my AGX warranty (only 1.5"--which is more than enough IMO)

Note: I'm not flaming your or anything, just letting you know from personal experience those springs suck. And yes I autocross (not hardcore, could only make it a few times this year since my other coupe got totaled and i'm trying to get my new s13 up-to-speed)

Modified by skydragoness at 2:45 PM 8/30/2005

Thanks for the input.

I actually am not unhappy with them for now on the stock shocks....and I'd be really surprised if .3" more of a drop from the eibachs is enough to be what caused the KYB's the blow....

BTW for comparrison's sake my stock, automatic, contisport extreme tire equipped 240 with only springs was only about 5 seconds behind an STi driver at the auto-x course that consistently hung with me.

That's not bad....if I didn't keep drifting all over the place I might have done a LOT better.

5spd goes in tomorrow

and the KC Regional Championship is sunday and monday so I'll really get to see what this car can do.... if I can get within 2 seconds of my Buddy I will be happy.

As soon as I get my pain and suffering check an FMax turbo kit will be going in along with some hoosiers and the sways and then I'll give em a run for their money.

I love this car.

[skydragoness]

Thanks for the input.

I actually am not unhappy with them for now on the stock shocks....and I'd be really surprised if .3" more of a drop from the eibachs is enough to be what caused the KYB's the blow....

BTW for comparrison's sake my stock, automatic, contisport extreme tire equipped 240 with only springs was only about 5 seconds behind an STi driver at the auto-x course that consistently hung with me.

That's not bad....if I didn't keep drifting all over the place I might have done a LOT better.

5spd goes in tomorrow

and the KC Regional Championship is sunday and monday so I'll really get to see what this car can do.... if I can get within 2 seconds of my Buddy I will be happy.

As soon as I get my pain and suffering check an FMax turbo kit will be going in along with some hoosiers and the sways and then I'll give em a run for their money.

I love this car.

Glad your'e happy with the car, and it's obvious your'e a good driver if you can hang with the higher-class cars at an autocross. I used to know this guy that worked a retired-cop car and hung times with Porsche boxters.

As far as my agx's blowing, it was more than just coincidence, it was a terrible idea on Eibach's part to make springs that drop 2.2-2" in the front and have them progressively rated. The AGX's can't handle it, hence their warranty. I've noticed a major change on the autox course since I made the switch, and also you should look into subframe collars (unless you want to go hard-core and drop your subframe and get urethane ones inserted), they really help minimize any wheel-hop issues and stiffen up the rear.

[Scooby24]

Glad your'e happy with the car, and it's obvious your'e a good driver if you can hang with the higher-class cars at an autocross. I used to know this guy that worked a retired-cop car and hung times with Porsche boxters.

As far as my agx's blowing, it was more than just coincidence, it was a terrible idea on Eibach's part to make springs that drop 2.2-2" in the front and have them progressively rated. The AGX's can't handle it, hence their warranty. I've noticed a major change on the autox course since I made the switch, and also you should look into subframe collars (unless you want to go hard-core and drop your subframe and get urethane ones inserted), they really help minimize any wheel-hop issues and stiffen up the rear.

Wow...I didn't realize they dropped the S13s that much. Had it dropped my car that much I'd have shat myself.

S14 drop is 1.7" IIRC so it wasn't too terrible.

I was looking at getting energy suspension complete eurethane inserts for the entire car (90+ piece kit) but then I thought....good god that would be 3 or 4 days work just to get all those sumbiches in their place. lol

For now I'm taking things one step at a time... mod... then autocross to see the difference....going to just keep going on that path until I'm happy with it.

wait...no that's not a good idea....I'm never "happy" with anything. At that rate I'd be modding till I was dead.

[240DRFT]

I was looking at getting energy suspension complete eurethane inserts for the entire car (90+ piece kit) but then I thought....good god that would be 3 or 4 days work just to get all those sumbiches in their place. lol

For now I'm taking things one step at a time... mod... then autocross to see the difference....going to just keep going on that path until I'm happy with it.

wait...no that's not a good idea....I'm never "happy" with anything. At that rate I'd be modding till I was dead.

i wouldnt recommend the sportlines either. i wouldnt get the complete energy suspension kit because some suspension parts that u can buy will have solid mounts...so u can choose between solid and polyurethane