internal withstand 1000whp on a Rb26dett?

[nismo1003]

It's in a R33 w/ RB25det, I would like input what's the best route to reach 1000whp, I can go with Rb26dett then forged everything, or I can go with the RB30DETT and forged the internal ,or HKS stroker kit to make the RB25 to RB28. For the forged piston and rod, are the Eagle capable to 1000whp? or I probably go with JUN piston and rod.

For the LSD, I will probably go with the NISMO 2 way , and I need more input about the tranmission, which transmission you recommanded.

I would like to have Twin turbo for this setup because I want to spool up quick? which turbo is the best for 1000whp? I know single is better for high hp but spool quick is my goal.

my goal is to hit 10sec in the R33 skyline without taking out the interior and keep everything in(radio, A/C ....etc...).

[Bluefire]

Wow I am sorry but, this is one of those questions where if you have to ask, your really really not ready to know

-Bluefire

[Flicktitty]

well................. i think if i were you. I'd up the boost do all the support mods. get some good suspension. build the motor (stock 2.5L) and spray some go-go juice at it. and throw on some slicks.....BUT i think if you were serious id go look at http://www.skylinesdownunder.com they would have some good awnsers for you. But like BLUEFIRE SAID if you have to ask your not ready.

[StricNyne]

well i would honestly probally, use the JUN setup seen here http://www.junauto.co.jp/processing/rb26/

have fun

[Joe]

It's in a R33 w/ RB25det, I would like input what's the best route to reach 1000whp, I can go with Rb26dett then forged everything, or I can go with the RB30DETT and forged the internal ,or HKS stroker kit to make the RB25 to RB28. For the forged piston and rod, are the Eagle capable to 1000whp? or I probably go with JUN piston and rod.

For the LSD, I will probably go with the NISMO 2 way , and I need more input about the tranmission, which transmission you recommanded.

I would like to have Twin turbo for this setup because I want to spool up quick? which turbo is the best for 1000whp? I know single is better for high hp but spool quick is my goal.

my goal is to hit 10sec in the R33 skyline without taking out the interior and keep everything in(radio, A/C ....etc...).

this really sounds like a pipe dream. if you are serious you need to find the person who will be building and tuning the engine. find out what they reccomend and are comfortable with and go from there. 1000whp is not a game, it is not cheap. there is alot more than drivetrain and engine that needs to be upgraded to get there safely.

[Shocker]

i dont understand why people ask this question... go look on skylines downunder or skylines austrailia, see what they are running and compare.........

[TurboSE]

Just read this month's DSport magazine...they're doing a HOT Rb26 build-up...I put that issue on the shelf right next to my Brittanica's...

[nismo1003]

Please don't post if you aren't answer my question

What I really want to ask is that

1. are the Rb26dett Block stronger than Rb25Det (and what other goodie in the short block)2. I won't be using Stock Rod and Piston so It dones't matter , but what aftermarket rod and Piston are the best for the RB25 and 26 , if Wiseco , Arias , Eagle , Pauter can do the job, I don't want to go for Jun setup (they only available for Rb26).

[StricNyne]

if u want 1000hp i am assuming u have the money to do it, LOOK AT THE JUN link i posted, it tells u EXACTLY how to build a RELIABLE 1000hp RB26, if not buy some wiseco pistons, eagle rods, and the tomei crank, i wont lie i own a rb25 amd gettin things liek cams and so on r a ***** and there isnt much variety, if u want 1000hp it aint gunna be cheap so get a rb26, just u wont need anything else but motor to drop it into yer r33 just u wont be awd, and u can always sell the rb25 for a decent amount, transmission wise, os giken makes a good transmission or u could TRY cryo on the rb25 trans but thats no gurantee, regardless its gunna be expensive

[s14 2510's]

If your looking to push 1000hp all the time get aftermarket crank. Im looking for 600whp in my s14 with a 26 in it. Arp bolts throughout the whole engine, Carrillo rods, .5mm je pistons, black coated bearings. That's the major parts to my lower end. Im sticking with a stock crank. The crank has been line bored, blueprinted for flaws, knife edged, micro polished, and balanced with the clutch and dampener. Im going dry sump because I do not trust a crank driven oil pump because I have too much into my engine to risk failure and I can build a dry-sump for a few hundred over what a tomei or jun pump costs. Look up high hp rb's and see what they are running for a combo. It all comes down to personal preference. Some people think im building a time bomb but olney time will tell. There are very few people on this forum that can tell you what is best for that amount of hp because nobody has an engine built to handle that power. Im sure i could lay down that power but why 600whp is enouf to kill me a few times over. Call big shops that have worked on rb's and ask around most shops will be more than happy to talk about what the do with rb's to make them go vroom not boom. You can have all the power in the word but make sure your car is setup to lay down that kind of power or its pointless. Im looking for 400whp for track driving and 600whp max just to say it has been done. If your not rich or sponsored you are well over your head just asking these question. What i hate is when people go to build the all mighty and get over there head and sell off there half completed project. All i have to say is why. If you want something to run at that power you better know some dam nice shops for building and tuning that beast. Or all will come to a halt. I wasn't going to post on this thread but I figured why not. That's my 2 cents Im just a dumb 21 year old what do I know!

[StricNyne]

dry sump is the ****!!! just expensive

[nismo1003]

I'm still debating If I should go with the Rb25 TT Rb26TT or RB30 TT , I'm willing to pay for Jun setup but they only available for Rb26 , I want to stick with RB25TT because the motor is already here,I"m still try to find out what's the best motor for that kind of whp, I will go with forged no matter what, but I really want to know what are the difference for all the company ( wiseco , Pauter....etc ) compare to JUN ..I know Jun uses Costworht stuff but material wise which are better? I also want to know if it's much different between the Rb26 and RB25 Block.

[nismo1003]

I am serious about this

[StricNyne]

if yer truely serious about this, i would get rb26 and use rb28 stroker from either hks or jun or if u wanna go rb30 i am not sure about forged internals availability, if u go rb30 use a rb26 head cuz of availability of part plus the lifter differance tween rb26 head and the rb25 and 20. Actually os giken makes a rb30 kit i cant find much info about it, i have a rb25 but i dropped rb26 internals and decided to twin turbo it also, but i am running two 16gs and my power goals are like 600ish.

[StricNyne]

here is the info on the os giken rb30 it used a rb26 block as well as the os giken trans if u want 1k hp look into those

ok more info 3k just for trans (for rb25 or rb26)

http://www.enonvativforce.com/rb30.htm

and more info on the rb30 it will get u 1400 hp have fun, but if yer gunna but in a s chassis u need more stuf fliek swap kit but i think i rem u said u had a r33, if u wanna make 1000 hp this is the way

secodn edit... the motor is 14k lets round it to a health 20k for a rb30 capable of 1400 with a trans, and u still need a turbo, inj, engine management, head, yadda yadda

[s14 2510's]

Yha OS giken parts are nice. I have everything os from my clutch to transmission besides the os gear set. Because im buisy with school and what not. I want to se what the transmission can hold with shock proof. Im willing to gamble. rb25det trans should hold 600whp on the track for short periods of time.

[Carl H]

Yha OS giken parts are nice. I have everything os from my clutch to transmission besides the os gear set. Because im buisy with school and what not. I want to se what the transmission can hold with shock proof. Im willing to gamble. rb25det trans should hold 600whp on the track for short periods of time.

bah, you guys are forgetting that its not hp which trashes transmissions but its the torque generated by the motor.if you are dead serious about a 1kwhp rb26 then check out http://www.exvitermini.com, and look at mario's build which is far from cheap!

[SillyRB]

Sorry about my immature post.

This thread is a F*cking joke !!

That is my .02 cents

[mugengsr]

1000hp rb26 will cost you minimum 50-60k us just for the engine build to handle it .. as said before 1000hp is no joke and the jun r33 gtr 1000whp car cost over 200k us to build ... if you want a 1000hp shoot a big shot of juice in your stock rb and nail your foot to the floor .. sure your engine will only last a few seconds but so will you .... but the up side is you didnt waste $100k+ to kill your self : P .... thats just my .02c worth ... because i have seen and have been in 7 and 800hp skylines and even they are no joke ... anyways like said before if you have to ask then forget it .. because if you were serious about building a 1000hp skyline then you would do the research and not look into a forum for answers .... anyways good luck with it : ) ....

p.s .. im scared sh*%less of my skyline and its not tuned or running full boost yet : ) who says little ole rb20's are not worth building : P my best advice to you man would to shoot for a more realistic goal first like 500whp on your rb25 or is it an rb26 you have .. either way feel 500whp then work on that 1000hp

[armysweitzer]

nah let him build the car then die so we can pick the car to death after hes gone!

my imput is more of a question.... Have you ever driven a 300-400 whp car? I drove a 400hp s14 blacktop sr and i wanted to get out. Then again ive seen what accidents can do on and off the track.

Secondly if you were serious about this then i doubt you would be trying so hard to defend yourseld. Typically those people serious about things dont need to prove it to anyone else.

Lastly its your life and car so do whatever man, Just post pics/vids of whatever you do so we all have something to oogle over.
Modified by armysweitzer at 12:30 AM 2/24/2006

[NISMO_RB25]

You guys can all hate me for this, but if I really wanted to put 1000 hp in a skyline, I would go the tried and true route and drop in a 2JZI know that is a horrible thing to do to a nissan, but hell you can get 1000hp out of a 2JZ a hell of alot easier and cheaper, and it will be pretty damn reliable.

I am just dumb enough to spend 20k trying to make a 240 AWD, but this quest of yours for a 1000hp is beyond insane. I hope you do it just to prove us all wrong.

Kamin might as well lock this thread now.

Good luck and please document your build up with pics if you decide to do it.

[s14 2510's]

Yha lock and ban everyone that posted in this thread. jk. I cant believe this came back alive. lol

[Carl H]

it simply cant be done, the rb26 lacks vtec and everyone knows vtec is the key to powah!

[armysweitzer]

lol

[s14 2510's]

I got a vtec solinoid and im putting vtec on my 26 thats were in getting the extra 200hp. I just have to find some asian to wire it in for me. O and im just guna weld an extra set of lobes on the cams. should be good to go. Im guna filabuster this till it gets locked. O HKS makes varible valve timing for a 26. I have seen video clips of it but never seen the kit FS. Man I fell stupider all ready.

[74260zt]

Pathetic...... :sleep

[Carl H]

the hks vcam is more along the lines of the neo vtc system on the rb25, it doesnt change lift but constantly changes cam timing.its quite nifty and what not but at 5k a pop not cheap at all.

[mugengsr]

sure you can drop a 2jz in but the bottom end is still only good for about 600 in stock trim.... and an equaly modded rb26 vs. 2jz the rb will win hands down : P .. everyone knows a 900hp supras is just as fast as a 1200hp supra : P lol j/k but its true in a way .. you hit a wall with the 2jz

ps: if you do stroke an rb26 r33 with the jun crank .. i want your r33 crank : P thats the only thing my rb24 is missing right now : )

[240convert]

i just got a 240sx, how do i get it to run 6's?

can someone show me how one could wire a rb26dett to run 4wd cus i wanna get one?

just a few more dumb questions that hints the thread starter is probably 16 yrs old and would probably do the 240sx a big favor if they'd just crash themselves...

like everyone said, if you'd have to ask, you'd never make it, unless you got a few hundred grand to pay someone to do it...have fun...

[silvia_ca18det]

i just got a 240sx, how do i get it to run 6's?

can someone show me how one could wire a rb26dett to run 4wd cus i wanna get one?

just a few more dumb questions that hints the thread starter is probably 16 yrs old and would probably do the 240sx a big favor if they'd just crash themselves...

like everyone said, if you'd have to ask, you'd never make it, unless you got a few hundred grand to pay someone to do it...have fun...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA very funny and true