http://www.snopes.com/politics...n.asp
I found this posted on a friend's facebook... he makes some good points. Read, discuss?
Interesting 'article' email about the election
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What? Nobody else is discussing this yet? Why not?
Let's provide some excerpts from that link to get the discussion going:
Quote »Why I Can't Vote For ObamaBy Huntley Brown
Dear Friends, A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but it's worth repeating...
First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him.
Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can't dictate the terms He does because He is the leader.
I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because that's who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I won't be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.
In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets ... to name a few, wrong economic concerns will soon not matter.
We need to follow Martin Luther King's words, don't judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I don't know Obama so all I can go off is his voting record. His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.
NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)
To beat Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.
There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100% rating. There is a reason the homosexual community supports him. There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him. There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court. There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill. There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion. There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.
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There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years.
Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright's sermons. I wonder why now?
Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 - 20 "Go and make disciples of all nations." This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?
Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a ...
1. Commitment to the White Community 2. Commitment to the White Family 3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic 4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community. 5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions 6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System 7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Would you support a President who went to a church like that?
Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama's former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside.
This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discovered he went to a racist church. The church can't be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.
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Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him."
Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?
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Let's provide some excerpts from that link to get the discussion going:
Quote »Why I Can't Vote For ObamaBy Huntley Brown
Dear Friends, A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but it's worth repeating...
First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him.
Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can't dictate the terms He does because He is the leader.
I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because that's who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I won't be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.
In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets ... to name a few, wrong economic concerns will soon not matter.
We need to follow Martin Luther King's words, don't judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I don't know Obama so all I can go off is his voting record. His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.
NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)
To beat Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.
There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100% rating. There is a reason the homosexual community supports him. There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him. There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court. There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill. There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion. There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.
...
There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years.
Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright's sermons. I wonder why now?
Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 - 20 "Go and make disciples of all nations." This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?
Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a ...
1. Commitment to the White Community 2. Commitment to the White Family 3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic 4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community. 5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions 6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System 7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Would you support a President who went to a church like that?
Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama's former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside.
This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discovered he went to a racist church. The church can't be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.
...
Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him."
Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?
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Im sure Im going to get reamed for this, but here it goes anyway.
In response to his view on Rev. Wrights church.-- I know some of the points he outlined sound outrageous, but I think every American owes a commitment to improve our communities, family, and work ethic. We should all try to provide our communities with the best resources possible to ensure each generation is a little better than the previous. I absolutely do not agree that the community should be defined by race.
The partial birth abortion topic:-- I do not agree this is an acceptable act unless under the most dire circumstances. If the mother's life is in danger. I do believe, however, that first trimester abortions should be for each person to decide. If you dont believe its right, great, dont get one. Im not sure if I could make that decision. I do feel however, that the government has nu business telling me what I can do with my own body. (Of course this leaves the debate up to the definition of life and when it begins for a fetus.)
As for the rest of the religious comments, I will keep my opinion of those to myself, because I fully understand my views on this are not held by the majority and I dont wish to make anyone feel like Im trying to attack their beliefs. Just because I have my reasons for believing something and not believing in another, I dont presume that these reasons will work for everyone.
EDIT:: Just realized I left out the most important part, haha.
I think that is valid to label Mr. Brown, among others who have taken this stance in regards to the Wright church issue, as an apparent assumption. Ive yet to hear any of those under his representation in Illinois to voice that he disproportionately fought for benefits in African American communities vs. white communities. I also believe that, when compared to whites, African Americans tend to be in lower income households that are in less desirable neighborhoods. I think that the churches, from my experience, seem to be a rally point for community service in these types of areas, so this type of speech from Rev. Wright would not shock me.
In regards to Obama's vote for partial birth abortions, I think many times when these issues are brought up about what a candidate has voted for in the past, they pick out a single issue, with no support material or context, that they can form to fit their agenda. Both sides do this, its politics. If there was a vote to ban partial birth abortion with no clause for extraordinary circumstances, I would vote against it as well.
In response to his view on Rev. Wrights church.-- I know some of the points he outlined sound outrageous, but I think every American owes a commitment to improve our communities, family, and work ethic. We should all try to provide our communities with the best resources possible to ensure each generation is a little better than the previous. I absolutely do not agree that the community should be defined by race.
The partial birth abortion topic:-- I do not agree this is an acceptable act unless under the most dire circumstances. If the mother's life is in danger. I do believe, however, that first trimester abortions should be for each person to decide. If you dont believe its right, great, dont get one. Im not sure if I could make that decision. I do feel however, that the government has nu business telling me what I can do with my own body. (Of course this leaves the debate up to the definition of life and when it begins for a fetus.)
As for the rest of the religious comments, I will keep my opinion of those to myself, because I fully understand my views on this are not held by the majority and I dont wish to make anyone feel like Im trying to attack their beliefs. Just because I have my reasons for believing something and not believing in another, I dont presume that these reasons will work for everyone.
EDIT:: Just realized I left out the most important part, haha.
I think that is valid to label Mr. Brown, among others who have taken this stance in regards to the Wright church issue, as an apparent assumption. Ive yet to hear any of those under his representation in Illinois to voice that he disproportionately fought for benefits in African American communities vs. white communities. I also believe that, when compared to whites, African Americans tend to be in lower income households that are in less desirable neighborhoods. I think that the churches, from my experience, seem to be a rally point for community service in these types of areas, so this type of speech from Rev. Wright would not shock me.
In regards to Obama's vote for partial birth abortions, I think many times when these issues are brought up about what a candidate has voted for in the past, they pick out a single issue, with no support material or context, that they can form to fit their agenda. Both sides do this, its politics. If there was a vote to ban partial birth abortion with no clause for extraordinary circumstances, I would vote against it as well.