Interesting: 31,000 scientists petition

[audtatious]

Event Name: OISM Event Date: May 19, 2008 Event Type: News Conference Time: 10:00 AM Sponsored by: Oregon Institute of Science & Medicine Event Location: Holeman Lounge Details: MEDIA ADVISORY: Dr. Arthur Robinson (OISM) to release names of over 30,000 scientists rejecting global warming hypothesisOregon Institute of Science and Medicine (OISM)

Who: Dr. Arthur Robinson of the OISM

What: release of names in OISM "Petition Project"

When: 10:00am on Monday May 19

Where: Holeman Lounge at the National Press Club, 529 14th St., NW, Washington, DC

Why: the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (OISM) will announce that more than 31,000 scientists have signed a petition rejecting claims of human-caused global warming. The purpose of OISM's Petition Project is to demonstrate that the claim of "settled science" and an overwhelming "consensus" in favor of the hypothesis of human-caused global warming and consequent climate damage is wrong. No such consensus or settled science exists. As indicated by the petition text and signatory list, a very large number of American scientists reject this hypothesis.

It is evident that 31,072 Americans with university degrees in science -- including 9,021 PhDs, are not "a few." Moreover, from the clear and strong petition statement that they have signed, it is evident that these 31,072 American scientists are not "skeptics."

[rn79870]

G.W. Bush just announced that Global Warming is real and that man has contributed to it. If our government tells us it's true, it must be.

[audtatious]

As I have stated before, GWB can be stoopid like the others in Govt. That include all three presidential hopefuls

[ishkabibble]

Americans with university degrees in science != scientists

And, even if they were scientists, which field? Only a few fields have anything to do with climate science.

[ishkabibble]

More info on OISM:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind...icine

Not really a credible organization.

[themadscientist]

As the only member with "scientist" in his user name I am uniquely qualified to comment on this.

[ishkabibble]

Quick, sign the petition.

[audtatious]

More info on OISM:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind...icine

Not really a credible organization.

I'm just waiting to see who is listed. I'm sure the vocal climetologists and such who are against MMGW will be on the list but we all know they are in the pocket of big oil and throw away all their scruples for a couple bux. Because the "every scientist agrees" stance of the IPCC has no room for error because you are either for it or you are paid off.

[OriginalWheelman]

G.W. Bush just announced that Global Warming is real and that man has contributed to it.

It's right there. Listen carefully. Global Warming is real. No one is going to deny that. Man has contributed. Also true. Just because we are not the primary cause does not mean we have nothing to do with it.

[audtatious]

Does not mean we need to trash our economy to fix something that may or may not be a problem in the first place. From what I hear the latest scientific reports say we may be in for a 15 year cold spell. No, I don't have links, just something I head today and have not looked into.

[OriginalWheelman]

Well when the super volcano under Yellowstone erupts it's going to be a moot point anyways.

[ishkabibble]

We'll run out of clean water before that happens.

[themadscientist]

I wonder what the hard core religious people think. They think it's all going to end anyway smog or no smog.

[audtatious]

Who knows. I'm still looking for the list of names. I did find some interesting information concerning more recent reports:

"NASA satellites found that last winter's Arctic Sea ice covered 2 million square kilometers (772,000 square miles) more than the last three years' average. It also was 10 to 20 centimeters (about 4-8 inches) thicker than in 2007. The ice between Canada and southwest Greenland also spread dramatically. "We have to go back 15 years to find ice expansion so far south," Denmark's Meteorological Institute stated. "

"Snows Return to Mount Kilimanjaro" - January 21 International Herald Tribune headline

"The University of Alabama-Huntsville's analysis of data from satellites launched in 1979 showed a warming trend of 0.14 degrees Centigrade (0.25 Fahrenheit) per decade," Joseph D'Aleo, the Weather Channel's first Director of Meteorology, told me. "This warmth peaked in 1998, and the temperature trend the last decade has been flat, even as CO2 has increased 5.5 percent. Cooling began in 2002. Over the last six years, global temperatures from satellite and land-temperature gauges have cooled (-0.14 F and -0.22 F, respectively). Ocean buoys have echoed that slight cooling since the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration deployed them in 2003."

In a December 2007 Senate Environment and Public Works Committee minority-staff report, some 400 scientists -- from such respected institutions as Princeton, the National Academy of Sciences, the University of London, and Paris' Pasteur Institute -- declared their independence from the pro-warming "conventional wisdom."

"Not CO2, but water vapor is the most important greenhouse gas," asserted climatologist Luc Debontridder of Belgium's Royal Meteorological Institute. "It is responsible for at least 75 percent of the greenhouse effect. This is a simple scientific fact, but Al Gore's movie has hyped CO2 so much that nobody seems to take note of it."

AccuWeather's Expert Senior Forecaster Joe Bastardi has stated: "People are concerned that 50 years from now, it will be warm beyond a point of no return. My concern is almost opposite, that it's cold and getting colder."

Climate scientist Noel Keenlyside, leading a team from Germany's Leibniz Institute of Marine Science and the Max Planck Institute of Meteorology, for the first time entered verifiable data on ocean circulation cycles into one of the U. N.'s climate supercomputers, and the machine spit out a projection that there will be no more warming for the foreseeable future. - cooling expected until 2015 or later

There is so much more stuff coming out about cooling the environmentals are playing the "just wait because after 2015 temperatures will shoot through the roof!!!!" Oh Noes!!!!