WARNING - Interest Check: Performance true manual rack

Post by **MastaYu** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:16 pm

you can add me to the interest list

Post by **a_ahmed** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:37 pm

1. a_ahmed (me)2. Thomas (son240)3. Darth (son240)4. Tre240sx (son240)5. racepar1 (zilvia/nrr)6. asoomal (nico)7. noobdrftr (nico)8. legit240sx (nico)9. gnvarnadore (nico)10. DirtyGhettoKids (nico)11. Steve Lloyd (nico)12. eidk (nico)13. scooby305 (nico)14. Az24tsx (nico)15. Drifter262 (nico)16. fraktal (freshalloy)17. Grim_Fandango(nico)18. Simmode1 (nico)19. pepegurr (nico)20. salem240 (nico)21.Dammitboy (nico)22. uraznfriend (nico)23. nissanman04 (nico)24. hbpignosePA (nico)25. DMan II-40 (nico)26. ShaggyS13 (nico)27. MastaYu (nico)28. VRoy (nico)29.30.Etc...

Post by **chaosli** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:59 pm

i guess i am intersted if the price is not too steep

soooooo....

1. a_ahmed (me)2. Thomas (son240)3. Darth (son240)4. Tre240sx (son240)5. racepar1 (zilvia/nrr)6. asoomal (nico)7. noobdrftr (nico)8. legit240sx (nico)9. gnvarnadore (nico)10. DirtyGhettoKids (nico)11. Steve Lloyd (nico)12. eidk (nico)13. scooby305 (nico)14. Az24tsx (nico)15. Drifter262 (nico)16. fraktal (freshalloy)17. Grim_Fandango(nico)18. Simmode1 (nico)19. pepegurr (nico)20. salem240 (nico)21.Dammitboy (nico)22. uraznfriend (nico)23. nissanman04 (nico)24. hbpignosePA (nico)25. DMan II-40 (nico)26. ShaggyS13 (nico)27. MastaYu (nico)28. VRoy (nico)29. Chaosli (nico)30.Etc...

Post by **a_ahmed** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:09 am

lol:

2009/10/12 10:24 Item successfully delivered

Speaking of which:

2009/08/18 18:51 OAKVILLE Item accepted at the Post Office

yaaa so canada post sucks!

I emailed the guy and lets see where we go from here

Post by **hbpignosePA** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:12 am

Post by **a_ahmed** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:14 am

I think Colombus with his piece of crap tiny excuse of a boat would have delivered faster from ameeeriikkaa to the english landz than canada post

Post by **a_ahmed** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:31 am

Okay well an update, the sample rack has shipped to Jon at atomic rex.

Here is the latest list:

1. a_ahmed (me)2. Thomas (son240)3. Darth (son240)4. Tre240sx (son240)5. racepar1 (zilvia/nrr)6. asoomal (nico)7. noobdrftr (nico)8. legit240sx (nico)9. gnvarnadore (nico)10. DirtyGhettoKids (nico)11. Steve Lloyd (nico)12. eidk (nico)13. scooby305 (nico)14. Az24tsx (nico)15. Drifter262 (nico)16. fraktal (freshalloy)17. Grim_Fandango(nico)18. Simmode1 (nico)19. pepegurr (nico)20. salem240 (nico)21.Dammitboy (nico)22. uraznfriend (nico)23. nissanman04 (nico)24. hbpignosePA (nico)25. DMan II-40 (nico)26. ShaggyS13 (nico)27. MastaYu (nico)28. VRoy (nico)29. Chaosli (nico)30.Etc...

10 minimum 50% deposit

690 british pounds is the standard price. Consider this cheap as he has ferrari racks that he would charge double for...

That being said since it's a group buy it'll be 10% off for the group buy making the actual cost 621 british pounds = 1010.16USD

4.5% on top of price if through paypal

credit card, address, phone number required. I'll provide him this link so he can jump in and same with the nico thread.

He will post pictures, it's already been sent to the shop and he has drawings that he'll post up that have already been processed.

We need to make that list now an actual yes I've paid and I'm gona get it list.

If you are no longer going to be a part of the group buy please let me know so I can take you of the list. This is serious so lets make it happen.
Modified by a_ahmed at 12:32 PM 10/15/2009

Post by **a_ahmed** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:27 am

Basically what I implied is, its ready to be made now... just need the deposits. Just to clarify.

Post by **AtomicRex** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:16 am

Hi guys,

Thanks to Ahmed for getting this underway

You have seen the photos of the rack...and I hope you agree they are rather special.

The racks are made from billet, and are both super strong and super light. On the Rx7 we save a total of 8.5kgs on the RHD rack, but almost 10Kgs on the LHD rack, as it is hard mounted, so we have made the body slightly thinner.

We build race cars from Rx7s and wanted to remove the original PAS to give more feel as well as remove weight. Removing another system meant that there was less to go wrong whilst on track. It would be fit and run.

So we came up with the following design brief:QuickerLighterRemove clutter from the engine bay.

The racks are now 2.4 turns lock to lock, which combats the issue of shuffling your hands before a hairpin. It is very direct, giving it great feel, and allows you to hit every apex. Running it on the road is simple. Yes it is a little heavier than the standard rack, but once you are moving it is perfect....and slow speed isn't too bad either.

The racks are being drawn up as we speak, and should be ready for a production slot for the end of November. We will need to move on this though, as otherwise we will get into Christmas, and companies seem to go a little slower around that period, and take more time off!

As Ahmed has correctly pointed out.

The racks retail for £690I can offer a 10% discount for a group buy.Postage costs are quite low at £85

So I need firm details from everyone to get this underway

If you could email to [email protected] the following information please:Full NameForum NameEmail AddressTelephone number including area code (very crucial as I cant FedEx without it)Full Address

Credit Card details

If you aren't happy with emailing me, then by all means call me with the details on 0044 7966 388 229

Thanks guys.....and I'm sure you will all be impressed with the results

Post by **a_ahmed** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:07 am

Eh where are all the excited peoplez? Now that the real thing is ready to be made lol, no one to be heard? Hello anyone lol.

Post by **a_ahmed** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:06 am

Also to re-iterate, there are two available options.

A grip oriented rack and a drift oriented rack.

Post by **Steve Lloyd** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:19 am

I'm still VERY interested in this, just need to wait until after the first of the year when my budget for next season gets released. My VH swap doesn't allow for factory power steering and this is the perfect alternative so I can still control my car on the track.

I do strongly support your efforts in this, but like I said, due to budget and timing, I will need to wait until after the first of the year.

Steve

Post by **hbpignosePA** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:19 am

i do want

but being still in college and paying for it myself

i cant justify it currently

Post by **nissanman04** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:41 am

I'm still in...I can't really justify buying this right now, but it is so damn cool that I'm going to have to get it, lol. Just sent an email to atomic rex with my info...
Modified by nissanman04 at 1:56 PM 10/16/2009

Post by **motoxris** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:44 am

I'm not going with this.What good reasons do you have that make good sense. Save 20 pounds? No, not a good reason. It will be harder to steer, if you had the same steering ratio. Witch was changed to 2.4 . This might match stock steering effort but your wheels wont turn as far. There is no pupose unless your drag racing or something that doesn't require it. What is practical is power steering with a quicker steering ratio. That's what you is practical for the driving that is done with a 240.

Post by **nissanman04** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:53 am

motoxris wrote:I'm not going with this.What good reasons do you have that make good sense. Save 20 pounds? No, not a good reason. It will be harder to steer, if you had the same steering ratio. Witch was changed to 2.4 . This might match stock steering effort but your wheels wont turn as far. There is no pupose unless your drag racing or something that doesn't require it. What is practical is power steering with a quicker steering ratio. That's what you is practical for the driving that is done with a 240.

Thanks?

Post by **motoxris** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:57 am

One other thing. I don't mean to sound like I'm hating on the person that came up with this. I think its cool that you came up with it and its cool that you can prove that you can make something like this. It's just not practical. The weight savings and the little bit of power savings is well more than made up with the ability to steer better.

Can I get and AMEN!

Post by pj » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:00 am

if they become availible on the regular and arent too much, i will most likely buy one.

Post by **motoxris** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:07 am

Sorry. One last thing. I truly would love to buy this product if it did feature power steering and a faster steering ratio. Probably for a high price. If you ever notice, and indy car or formula 1 car driver gets full lock at around 90 degrees of a turn at the steering wheel. I would just like to have quicker steering ratio.

Post by **a_ahmed** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:12 am

You just re-iterated your opinion twice. Okay, this is not for 'drag racing' or a pretty piece. This is for people who know what it is.

Well who is actually serious about this? Please only respond if you are serious about this.

I know everyone loves things for free in the s chassis community or on the cheap, knock off, made in china, etc... but I''ve explained from the beginning this is not an ordinary rack, or rebuilt, or modified, but a precious billet cnc'd faster manual performance rack for road racing.. for those that want the extra edge... and you can specify your specs even faster or whatever you want.

You people must have p**** hands to think a true manual rack is 'heavy', yes its a bit harder but you're overexagerating and probably have no experience with something similar. Yes I haven't driven a ferrari f40 with its manual rack and non-abs non power assist... but I am building my car to be as raw and on the edge of performance as possible.

No need to argue back and forth, this was already covered previously in the discussion, plenty people were interested and understood what this is about but when it now comes to actually paying money for the product very few actually speak up.

Yes it's expensive, but so are garbage china coilovers that cost 1000 bux.

I will of course give my own review just as the rx7 owners did, but hey...

Post by **nissanman04** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:20 am

motoxris wrote:One other thing. I don't mean to sound like I'm hating on the person that came up with this. I think its cool that you came up with it and its cool that you can prove that you can make something like this. It's just not practical. The weight savings and the little bit of power savings is well more than made up with the ability to steer better.

Can I get and AMEN!

Reasons for purchasing:

1) quicker ratio 2) steering feel3) less engine bay clutter for my turbo setup4) One less system to leak on me

Bonuses: weight savings, reduced engine load

I don't daily drive this car, I am aware of some effort during parking maneuvers. A manual rack does not require that much effort to drive once moving faster than 5 mph, this is even true for a converted power rack. I autocrossed my buddy's FC with the looped line manual rack and didn't even notice during slaloms and hairpins.

Post by **a_ahmed** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:20 am

Sorry. One last thing. I truly would love to buy this product if it did feature power steering and a faster steering ratio. Probably for a high price. If you ever notice, and indy car or formula 1 car driver gets full lock at around 90 degrees of a turn at the steering wheel.I would just like to have quicker steering ratio.

And in regards to this well, you talk about manual steering being impractical but a super fast formula 1 rack with power steering may be more so of a practical realistic nightmare.

However since everyone has different expectations why not, ill swing this idea by Jon and see what he says.

I want a manual rack for what it is in every respect. The RX7 guys had me sold on this... AND people whined for years wanting manual racks for 240s... and when i finally do my research and come up with a quality product no one wants to pay up :-/

Post by **nissanman04** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:25 am

a_ahmed wrote:I want a manual rack for what it is in every respect. The RX7 guys had me sold on this... AND people whined for years wanting manual racks for 240s... and when i finally do my research and come up with a quality product no one wants to pay up :-/

Hey, I'm ready to make my deposit

Post by **motoxris** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:28 am

Well if that's what you all want get it. I just stated what I wanted and I'll say it again if I want.I'm just stating the facts. Don't try and act like your going to say in a polite way that you don't like what I said. There's a reason for power steering. You think I'm just driving down your sales a-ahmed. Build something thats a little more technical since you proved you can.More practical. More money that can be made. More satisfied customers.More satisfied salesman.

Post by **nissanman04** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:30 am

motoxris wrote:Well if that's what you all want get it. I just stated what I wanted and I'll say it again if I want.I'm just stating the facts. Don't try and act like your going to say in a polite way that you don't like what I said. There's a reason for power steering. You think I'm just driving down your sales a-ahmed. Build something thats a little more technical since you proved you can.More practical. More money that can be made. More satisfied customers.More satisfied salesman.

You do know that he's not selling these, right?

Post by **a_ahmed** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:33 am

Ive contacted Jon he is probably about to go to sleep now but ill wait for his response tomorrow. Ive asked him if he would be able to offer a power steering faster rack solution as well to satisfy those who are nay saying of a manual rack heh :P That includes you sir! The whole point of me doing this was to go to a true performance/racing manual rack.... not go to another power steering system but whatever...

Two, for the gentleman above who wants to pay, you have choice between paypal but 4% charge (due to cost of using paypal, conversion loss, etc...) or by creidt information. In either case 50% * (620british pounds +_85 british pounds fedex shipping) = 352.5 british pounds.

As mentioned by Jon please provide him all the information when you've paid/etc... then Ill put paid besides ur name

Thanks homie,

The actual lets buy it list of people1)a_ahmed (me)2)nissanman04 (nico)

Post by **nissanman04** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:45 am

a_ahmed wrote:Two, for the gentleman above who wants to pay, you have choice between paypal but 4% charge (due to cost of using paypal, conversion loss, etc...) or by creidt information. In either case 50% * (620british pounds +_85 british pounds fedex shipping) = 352.5 british pounds.

As mentioned by Jon please provide him all the information when you've paid/etc... then Ill put paid besides ur name

Thanks homie,

The actual lets buy it list of people1)a_ahmed (me)2)nissanman04 (nico)

Already emailed Jon my info

Post by **hbpignosePA** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:57 pm

well its not as if alot of us don't want them

just dont think its a reality currently

Post by **a_ahmed** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:12 am

All that's required is money now, once the money becomes a reality the rack will be a reality in ur hands the sooner the better Its already been made a reality for the rx7 guys as they paid

Post by **nissanman04** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:40 am

any updates?

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