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SR20Drif
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I have a blitz intercooler that has no end tanks. Its 10.5" tall, 24" wide, and 3" thick. Suppose i was to put this on my stock sr20det red top, what whould i need to upgrade?? I have a skyline fuel pump and an hks ssqv bov and thats it. would i need to up the boost, would that be dangerous, or will i loose power??


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creophus
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I'm not familiar with this intercooler, post up a pic so I can see what an intercooler with "no end tanks" looks like.

Just because you upgrade to an intercooler...assuming you don't have any boost leaks, you don't need to upgrade anything. If you're going with an intercooler, chances are you're thinking of upping the boost. If you up the boost, then you need to upgrade the fuel pump, assuming everything else is in working order.

If it's a large front mount, you might need to get fans to keep from overheating. If you live in a really hot climate and/or have A/C, you might need to upgrade the radiator too. Don't let it overheat!

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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ETTInnov04
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When you say "no end tanks" do you mean it's just the core? If so your going to find endtanks to weld onto the side as well as piping to complete a "kit". Please post a pic so we can get a better idea of what your dealing with. *Also upgrading your to a thicker radiator and electric fans is a good idea as well.

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Electric fans for the intercooler?????????? I have NEVER herd of that before but now that i think of it that would work well lol. And i dont see how your intercooler can over heat when i am driving and if i stop and toutch the intercooler it is VERY cold. And i have a blitz FMIC just picture myne with out the end tanks lol.

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creophus
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Nicksemianiw wrote:Electric fans for the intercooler?????????? I have NEVER herd of that before but now that i think of it that would work well lol. And i dont see how your intercooler can over heat when i am driving and if i stop and toutch the intercooler it is VERY cold. And i have a blitz FMIC just picture myne with out the end tanks lol.

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Um...I read my post again, and I didn't think it would be misinterpreted... allow me to clarify. I meant electric fans because of the intercooler, not for the intercooler.

Electric fans might be need to keep the radiator cool since the front mount I/C will block airflow to the radiator. I don't think fans would help on the I/C. Some ice or N20 would do nicely though.

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LOL yea i was a little confused by that oh well.

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ive seen electric fans on a low 10 second crx, so im guessing it helped.

anyways just get the endtanks welded on there and buy some 2.25" u bends (piping) cut them up and weld them to make a kit then purchase some silicone hoses, get two silicone hump hoses, and if you really want to you can buy those nice t-clamps for all the coupling$ the only thing that i can see that will max out next is the injectors @14~15 psi. If i were you id keep boosting about 12~13 w/ t25.

SR20Drif
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heres the pic of the intercooler that u guys asked for

SR20Drif
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another one...

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and another one....

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wait theres this one and one more....

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this is the last one.

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creophus
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Yep, no end tanks! That's a pretty big I/C...I'd plan on a new radiator and fans if I were you.

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ETTInnov04
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Yea your gonna need the endtanks and piping(if you dont already have it). Can you weld? If not, it aint a big deal there are plenty of shops out there who can. Also if you have a friend that can do good welds, dont let him go! He will be your best friend in no time.

Oh, I second the radiator and fans as well. Thats a right healthy size intercooler.

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yes, you will have cooling problems if you are still all stock. nice set of dual fans and a koyo will do.

look for a good local welder who's an arc welder. they are rare. i dont know where you're gonna find those end tanks.

look to see what the skyline pump is rated at, but you should be fine upping it to 14-15psi. go for it.

SR20Drif
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So i can put this on with no problem accept for the radiator and cooling fans ?? and of course the rest of the kit. I know someone that welds but he said something about not being able to weld aluminum so does that I/C look aluminum to you guys?? Also how much power do you think i will gain with the I/C if any?

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Yeah, it's probably aluminum. It certainly doesn't look like copper! And I have no idea what else they would make an intercooler out of.

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ETTInnov04
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It's aluminum, as far as power a FMIC allows you to run more boost safer which also unleashes more power(cooler air=less chance of detonation=you can run more boost). From just the intercooler alone your probably looking at 10-20, depends on the flow of the piping and core. That hp gain is a rough guesstimate dont take my word for it but you will notice the difference

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yes, you will most likely need a special welder to weld aluminum.

get out the phone book and start calling. you will also need all the piping fabricated.

you might be better off just selling that and spending $700 on a greddy vspl. if you don't it might wind up costing more than that.

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It's aluminum, you'll need to find someone with a TIG welder.

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creophus
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mynismo wrote:yes, you will most likely need a special welder to weld aluminum.

get out the phone book and start calling. you will also need all the piping fabricated.

you might be better off just selling that and spending $700 on a greddy vspl. if you don't it might wind up costing more than that.
Quite true. The headache associated with doing this can be tremendous.

Let me ask, how did you get an SR powered vehicle without having this planned out? Many of us lurk around the boards for months gathering info before we can get enough money to do a swap.

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That is probably about the size core my Greddy RSPL came with. Mine just barely fills the stock opening on the 91+ bumper like he has.

I was thinking of getting an XS or APEXi core (with ends unwelded) and after calling around I decided it was easier just to fork up the cash for a kit. I don't know if this is how much it costs or if the people around me just didn't know what I was talking about but I was quoted from a couple of places like $180-200 to have just then ends welded on and that was providing I supplied the core and ends.

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you know, if you build efficient ducting and vent the air correctly for your ic/rad setup, it will cool 197092157902358908x more efficiently.

maybe not that much, but it'll be a lot better.


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