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Where can i get a intake manifold for my ka-t. i want an upgrade from my stock manifold. anyone got any info?


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Stock one is what you want unless your going for over 500 hp. Its well designed. Excessive makes one but its a hack job and you will lose more power through the curve with it than you will gain.

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ABN TORQUE wrote:Where can i get a intake manifold for my ka-t. i want an upgrade from my stock manifold. anyone got any info?
Here you go an intake manifold for ka

http://estore.websitepros.com/...folds

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ojperformance wrote:
Here you go an intake manifold for ka

http://estore.websitepros.com/...folds
Any before and after dyno grapghs? Thanks

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No company has the balls dude. The power lost under the curve is so significant for a Ka, it would be nearly economical suicide to put out the dyno graphs of a short runner large plenum designed manifold for a Ka. If a company was to make a long runner, reasonable sized plenum with velocity stacks and the whole 9 then yea, but a company has yet to do this. AMS was our last best chance at this, but they bailed on the 240 crowd all together. AMS didnt even publish their dyno graphs from their trials, they just scrapped the project.

If your going for a drag or super high hp Ka-T, then get a manifold. GATO makes probably the nicest one. Other than that, stick with the stocker.

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Not to start anything, only to encourage results:

No company has the balls for the 240 crowd, but how can they really expect to sell without results?

Yeah so it "looks" like it'll perform, if they can't show a dyno sheet, at least show before and after 1/4 mile runs, even peak whp figures.

Without this, and without a guinea pig to test for the community, everyone is in the dark, guessing.

A recent manifold from a company called Magnus made a sheetmetal intake, sold hundreds, without any dyno sheets- and a couple years later were found to LOSE hp throughout the powerband, even peak power compared to the stock intake. With a small turbo and again with a big turbo...

Long story short, I want results before a shell out a grand for anything.

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Same thing with the Excessive manifold. You KNOW those guys did their own dyno testing, and where are the results? Most likely on some computer somewhere that will never see the light of day because they proved their product was a joke.

I did make 200 bucks selling them 5 Ka runners though, that was pretty sweet.

I do however feel bad for the people who bought those things. Guess what, if you own a new excessive intake manifold? Its runners probably came from me lol.

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Our intake manifolds are being use at some of the fastest sport compacts in Florida anywhere from rotaries to nissan to toyota engines.All of the testing in this intake manifolds have being at the track.For example when Kilo Racing ran the All Motor Class there were 5 intake manifolds built different ways to improve the et of the car.And the championships speak for themselves 4.Never being to the dyno or a flow bench with those intakes and still ran 9 sec all motor.This just an example is not a ka engine I know is just to let you guys know that a lot time and work goes with the fabrication of this intake manifolds.

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Here is a picture of the first intake that was fabricated for a KA24E in 2002.Here you could see the intakes have change somewhat.The reason for the change is more air and bigger runners and a better design.By the way this KA ran 8.19@163 mph en 2004 and is using an intake from the same person the makes the one in the link.






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Here is another intake manifold built for a Suzuki 1.3 lt engine

http://a805.ac-images.myspacec...c.jpg

10.90@121 mphhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...latedVideo 10.96@120 mph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f03F__tfz6A

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Here are some pictures of the intake manifold now.There is some changes to it to make better.












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Sorry were not trying to bash the Gato manifold itself. It is the highest quality mass produced intake manifold for our cars and is great for a strait line car.

However, it still is a SRI man. There is no getting around the fact that for a daily driver, or even a RR car IMO it is not ideal. It is a part where a sacrifice is made. You lose low to mid range HP to gain high end flow/hp. SRI's simply can not achieve the intake velocities needed for efficient low to mid range engine operation. Since the Ka is not a high RPM operating motor and is designed to be a mainly mid rpm range engine from the factory, SRI's really put the hurting on a Ka. Now throw in a FCW crank and you have yourself a completely different story.


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I agree with you in some point for road racing it might n ot help you as much as drag racing.But we never try one for road racing maybe we might have to work on something for the road racing guys and see if we fabricate something that will help them increase power and gain more horse power.If anyone will like to work together with us we more than likely will do are best to help them out.

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I like that you guys have added bungs for extra injectors. I've been wondering why no one else has. Especially seeing how it's for an FI application.

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I'm in 100% agreement with Nate here. The short runner design is great for high rev motors and or for drag racing. Because you spend 98% of the time operating at peak torque/power. For a daily, every manifold designed to date has been a flop. I'm not sure where the need to swap comes from other then the bling factor. The stock mani does very well under 500whp. If I were cranking out 700+, i'd also have a huge turbo etc...so I wouldn't be making any power down low anyway.

It's all about the package guys. Matching cams/intake/power adder is old school tuning and something no one seems to consider anymore.

Want big numbers? The O&J is a bad sob Just know you'll be dropping serious low end torque. Which isn't bad if you're driving a V8...but for us...devastating.

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