installed aluminum subframe bushings. LOUD!

[707]

I just put them in my s13 along with a welded diff (not that this should make a difference, i think). anyway, i've read alot about these and how there is supposed to be cabin noise but this is loud. my car is stripped but i have no cats and a 3 inch exhaust but i can still barely hear anything but this sound. like a winding noise. has anyone else had this experience???? i mean very loud.

[Frozen240]

If you stripped your interior it's a gonna be loud! When I got mine in I took the car for a spin minus the rear seat and it was crazy loud, sounds almost like an F1 car or something. Fun, but it would get tiresome in a hurry. It's not bad if you leave all the interior pieces in.

[MagikDragon]

I don't have a problem with mine, I think its just the noise from your diff coming up through your cabin, also if you have a loud exhaust and noisy tires that will also come through the bushings

Are these the bushings or the collar spacers??

[707]

If you stripped your interior it's a gonna be loud! When I got mine in I took the car for a spin minus the rear seat and it was crazy loud, sounds almost like an F1 car or something. Fun, but it would get tiresome in a hurry. It's not bad if you leave all the interior pieces in.

good to know its a safe noise, thats all i really worried about. the performance is awsome, just very loud.. and its completely stripped.

I don't have a problem with mine, I think its just the noise from your diff coming up through your cabin, also if you have a loud exhaust and noisy tires that will also come through the bushings

Are these the bushings or the collar spacers??

solid bushings

[AmoebAssassin]

You've just eliminated your subframe bushings, which probably do the most out of any bushing system in the rear end to eliminate rear end NVH. The noise is normal, and should add to the fun of puttering around in your car. I, for one, love hearing things going on around me when I drive.

[babowc]

i was trying to change my **** out and a subframe STUD broke.NUTS.. i hate it!

no matter.. im just driving it around as-is for a little bit until i can get time to pull the subframe off and weld on a new stud

[707]

i was trying to change my **** out and a subframe STUD broke.NUTS.. i hate it!

no matter.. im just driving it around as-is for a little bit until i can get time to pull the subframe off and weld on a new stud

thats so weak dude. how did u do that?

[babowc]

i dunno.. it was on there tight so i tried loosening it..i loosened it with a breaker bar and SNAPit was gone

[steve_o1989]

Impact gun FTW!

[babowc]

yeah.. i tried an impact and it didnt conme loosei used the breaker bar to "break" it free and it literally broke.

[94_240sx]

Man... I always spray PB Blaster, and let it soak for hours before I work on anything under the car. Never had a problem.

[AmoebAssassin]

That's a pretty uncommon failure, I've never heard of that happening before!

If you can post some pictures of the damage, I could try to help you find a way of sorting it out.

PS Please do not drive on a subframe that's not properly constrained, it could cause you to lose control of the car if the subframe is not solidly mounted to the chassis.

[babowc]

its pretty common.. well, i've seen a couple that happened that way anyways.

its on there pretty well.. just that one bolt is gone, still holds laterally, just not vertically.

im too lazy to take pics.. however, imagine a stud on the frame.the subframe goes on the stud and bolts down, however the stud is broken where it meets the subframe.

i need to pull subframe and re-weld a stud on there to fix it

sucks ***.

[240on430]

I just put them in my s13 along with a welded diff (not that this should make a difference, i think). anyway, i've read alot about these and how there is supposed to be cabin noise but this is loud. my car is stripped but i have no cats and a 3 inch exhaust but i can still barely hear anything but this sound. like a winding noise. has anyone else had this experience???? i mean very loud.

do the collar spacers create a louder noise than stock bushings only?

[superDorifto]

i have the collars, and i cant notice anything different from stock...

[94_240sx]

i have the collars, and i cant notice anything different from stock...

Sounds like your OEM bushings were still in good shape when you installed collars. At least, collars will prevent OEM bushings go bad, so it's all good.

[94_240sx]

That's a pretty uncommon failure, I've never heard of that happening before!

If you can post some pictures of the damage, I could try to help you find a way of sorting it out.

Ran into these pictures. Looks like back seat area needs to be drilled to take the broken stud out.

[babowc]

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^^^^^^^ where is the rep system whenyou ened it?!

wow i never knew it was a stud that was removable!

its not that particular stud, but if its removable.. wow, i would be so happy...

the one i broke is closer to the diff.there are 6 subframe studs iirc..two on the reartwo on the frontand two on the sides like you posted.,

mine broke @ the front pass. side.

[babowc]

after aniother look,..that might be the one i broke...now, where to find that bolt

[94_240sx]

after aniother look,..that might be the one i broke...now, where to find that bolt

There are 4 studs for the rear subframe, not 6 as you can see from this pic.

Of course, dealership. I wouldn't try to get from junkyards or auto parts stores. Get the real one. Drill the hole, spray PB Blaster and bang it from the bottom and you should be able to get it out. It doesn't look that bad, so good luck...

[babowc]

hm..do you know what part # it may be?i emailed up midway parts and they cant seem to find it, yet.

[babowc]

ne1 know where i can get that specific bolt/stud??

[94_240sx]

ne1 know where i can get that specific bolt/stud??

Try Courtesy Nissan 800-527-1909.

[babowc]

wellthey found it.but it only comes with the actual body.so i'd have to buy an entire new rear to get that stud, LOL!

ill go check what i can do in the junkyard...damn f***.

[94_240sx]

wellthey found it.but it only comes with the actual body.so i'd have to buy an entire new rear to get that stud, LOL!

ill go check what i can do in the junkyard...damn f***.

Hmmm... Nissan is good at selling parts separately, but it happens. You should be able to get it from the junkyard no problem. I bet it's going to be tough hammering it up. You will need a good clearance under the car. If I were you, I'll cut the floor panel with the stud in and take it out after come home. You know what I mean? Good luck and keep us posted. BTW, Courtesy Nissan is pretty good at locating parts and helping people. I've been going there ever since I got my s13.

[babowc]

yep definitely.he found it in a couple seconds after putting me on hold.

problem is now..i realized its the REAR studi dont know how thats going to work now..

its not the one pictured.i looked under it again today and saw its a bit different.