Inspecting a rb25det

[synergy]

I live in the state of new hampshire and am worryed my car wont pass inspection. its a 1996 s14 with a 93 r33 motor swap. Do they consider it a 93 or 96?If they use the body as the age then it will have to pass obd2 but it doesnt have an obd2 plug so how does this work?

[Joe]

it doesnt work. you will fail.

you cannot swap a non obd engine into an obd2 car.

[synergy]

so how does anyone get around this? if it doesnt work?

[Joe]

they dont haha

they either live in an area without emissions, or do something illegal to pass (bribes, fake address, etc)

[HowlerMonkey]

If it passes visual inspection and has the emissions devices, they will use the newer year component as the emissions guidelines.

I've got a 1991 car with a 1981 engine but using the 1991 ecu to keep it clean.

[synergy]

so your saying i gotta get a lick n stick? haha hmmm that changes things a little.

[Joe]

If it passes visual inspection and has the emissions devices, they will use the newer year component as the emissions guidelines.

I've got a 1991 car with a 1981 engine but using the 1991 ecu to keep it clean.

no.

you dont understand the difference between 1995 and older cars vs OBD2 cars.

there is NO POSSIBLE WAY TO LEGALLY PASS OBD2 EMISSIONS WITH A RB IN A 1996 OR NEWER CAR.

[Romeo_rus]

That IS TRUE... Find a "friend" inspector who can help you!!!

[FAST-DATSUN]

JDM cars are neather OBD1 or 2 , only the USA has OBD system....JDM Nissans use only the consult. Some fuction could be wired in , but not enought to pass eather...

[HowlerMonkey]

no.

you dont understand the difference between 1995 and older cars vs OBD2 cars.

there is NO POSSIBLE WAY TO LEGALLY PASS OBD2 EMISSIONS WITH A RB IN A 1996 OR NEWER CAR.

You seem to have assigned me an opinion that I did not express.

Please tell me where I said a RB in a OBDII car can pass emissions.

"If it passes visual inspection" they will use the newer year component whether engine or car to determine the guidelines that they will use for testing.

A RB in a S13 or S14 will not pass the visual test and even the inclusion of anything that does not look stock will fail the ispection.

They will fail a car for nothing more than a shiny tube and a cone filter.

In his case they will use 1996 guidelines and he will fail when they find they cannot communicate with the ecu through the required OBDII port and they will not attempt to use the 1992 consult port instead.

I don't understand the difference?

I am a virginia emissions inspector and have been for 10 years.

I was reciting the rhetoric in my first post from the inspection guidlines for virginia which are some of the tightest in the nation in that we have been running our emissions inspections on a dyno for the last 10 years.

As a current lexus master diagnostic specialist as well as nissan master technician for the last 13 years, I surely have a grip on the difference between OBD and non-OBD cars.

As general manager of Blue streak america where we test and rebuild ecus for standard motor products, I am on top of ecu operation and routinely test every single bit of functionality an ecu can control.

I only stated what is in the book for current virginia emissions when I said that they (inspectors) will use whatever component is newest for the inspection guidelines.

If the car is a 1996 and the engine is 1992, they will use the 1996 regulations.

If the car is 1992 and the engine is 1996, they will use the 1996 regulations.

The original poster surely will not find a "friendly inspector" either since the penalties of passing a car that should not pass involves heavy fines, loss of certification, and more than enough jail time to deter even the most dishonest inspector.

[streeteg]

buy a sticker

[synergy]

what if i did a swap from my 96 into a 95? or if i bought a 95 and did a full vin swap every piece that has the 95 vin into the 96 and then said i did the swap? would anything like that work?

[Coolwhip]

or if i bought a 95 and did a full vin swap every piece that has the 95 vin into the 96 and then said i did the swap?

VIN swapping is illegal

[synergy]

hehe i know i was just asking if it has anything to do with the actual body of the car or is it just because my car has a 96 on the title and not a 95. Basicly if my car had a 95 on the title could it be inspected?

[Joe]

you need a 95 car, and title.

and howler monkey, you need to calm the f*** down. you have 9 posts and your original post sounded like you were telling him about pre obd2 cars. nobody cares about your resume. take a breath dude.

[synergy]

thanks joe looks like im going to be needed a 95 shell which im sure are expensive as all hell considering there the only 2gen non obd2. we will see

[imotion s14]

VIN swapping is illegal

It's only illegal if you get caught

[synergy]

yeah but when you get caught your screwedd

[240z4u]

As general manager of Blue streak america where we test and rebuild ecus for standard motor products, I am on top of ecu operation and routinely test every single bit of functionality an ecu can control.

Thought you quit that job ; http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=139680

[HowlerMonkey]

LOL.............got fired for faxing an application for employment from burger king to a technician who kept calling me claiming I sent him 4 bad ECUs that just happened to exhibit identical issues and tested ok when I personally tested them.

He wasn't happy with "the solution to all of your problems" that I faxed.

But..........for this thread's purposes, I did not forget everything I know just because I changed employers.

I work at Performance Power in West Palm Beach now as a consultant on the twin turbo ford GT project and giving technical advise on engine management system integration.

Yes, joe, my response was a bit harsh but I answered harsh for harsh when accused I knew nothing about OBD when I am most certainly qualified to comment on it.

[Joe]

LOL.............got fired for faxing an application for employment from burger king to a technician who kept calling me claiming I sent him 4 bad ECUs that just happened to exhibit identical issues and tested ok when I personally tested them.

this 110% completely absolves any issues we have had, and im now proud to call you a member of NICO.

thank you for posting here and welcome to nico. hahaha

[HowlerMonkey]

Sorry man.......I was probably overly harsh.

I blame that on the fact that I get to work on sweet cars but get paid next to nothing.

Time to get back into a lexus or infiniti shop.

[synergy]

So If i did a motor swap to a 95 s14 that would be fine? I know in the letter of the law no motor swaps should every pass the visual im just saying. In newhampshire its 96+ OBD but the 95 came with factory OBD2.

Basicly is it safe to say getting it inspected in a 95 will be easyer than a 96.

[Sil240]

Listen as far as NY goes.If you have a OBDII car 96 and up.You will have to use the OBDII port.DONE.

If you have a 92 car with a 2032 warp drive engine. You will need to pass the sniffer test.They don't care whats under the hood as long as the OBDI car (pre- 96) passes the Pre-OBDII test.

You can send your local tester some $$ and have them pass you. Or you can call Aunt Edna and use her address in FL to register your car.

There are no emissions tests down here.

[Fibre guy]

These threads are always good for a laugh.VIN swapping is some insto-jail time in a can and you shame us...Emissions will be the end of the future aftermarket industry...