Inner side of wheel wearing fast ?

[Hookm36]

I just noticed the tread on the front passenger side tire. The inner has significantly more wear than the outside of the tire. The car doesnt pull towards any side, what could be the problem ? I purchased the car almost 2 weeks ago, but the carfax didnt show signs of any wreck or collision........help please !2004 G35 Automatic, only 36Kmiles

[zozoka1212]

Sorry to hear that.Take it back to the dealer and show them. They should take it to the tire shop replace your tire and check the wheel. most likely just need to adjust the wheel but it could be couple of other things.

zozoka

[zozoka1212]

It could be just the previous owner parallel parking. Bang hit the curb.

zozoka

[champagneG35]

I hate to say it, but I complained about the same thing on my car as well about a month after having it, and was simply told tough luck, after complaining a bunch we got them to say we'll give you a free alignment if it needs it but the tires are on you.

Come to find out it's relatively common with these cars or at least with the coupes. The extra camber they put in for better handling wears out the inner fronts more than the rest. The back wear out evenly though.

[zozoka1212]

wow, that's crazy.

zozoka

[Hookm36]

How do I fix the camber problem if thats what it is ? Will any alignment place be able to tell me what the problem is ? or will I have to take it to Infiniti ? I live about an hour away from a delearship.....

[lawson3]

G35s have no camber adjustments for front camber from the factory you will need to install camber plates(or some sort of aftermarket kit) on the front to ease the negative camber,this is common on more cars than just infinitis these days.On my sedan its not that bad ,I keep my tires rotated often to help inner edge wear.I hear its worse on the coupes though.Being a honda tech this is also common on the S2000 and other hondas,pretty much the price you pay for a high performance car.

[Hookm36]

So if its only one wheel, should I still buy the 4 wheel camber kit, or just for the front 2 wheels ? Also just a ballpark figure what will this cost me ? and what would be cost to have this done by a shop ?

[RED_DET]

Take it to a shop that you are familiar with that can do alignments. Have them check and see where the specs are and if any of them are out. It could be a simple toe adjustment, which they can adjust. I can't see your car being out of camber with factory suspension. Hell I dropped my sedan 1.5" and it barely put the right front out of spec and all other corners were still in spec, but the right front is not out enough to destroy tires.

If for some strange reason you would need a camber kit for the front, you can get them for around $300-$400.

[infinititech1]

g35's come with negative camber from the factory...and front camber is not adjustable without a camber kit

[Hookm36]

I am in the process of getting new shoes for the G, should I get this corrected then get the new wheels put on, or should I get the Rims put on, and then immediately get it corrected ?

thanks for the advice

[Hookm36]

Infiniti Tech - so an allignment shop will not be able to fix this without adding a camber kit ?

[lawson3]

If the front camber is out it can only be adjusted with a kit.That is if the front camber is even out,some cars will wear tires even if the alignment is within specs.Most tire wear comes fron lack of rotation,improper air pressure and incorrect toe settings.But mostly when you have tire wear just on the inside of the tire its from negative camber.Incorrect toe usually cups or feathers the tire.I have been doing alighments for over 10 years and have seen it all.

[Q45tech]

Within wide oem specs is the problem! Perfection requires setting and maintaining at the exact midpoint of specs as you drive.

Most [95%] of tires are designed to tolerate a negative 0.5 degrees of camber....................-1.0 deg is significant and both sides should be matched within 0.25 degrees [closer is better]

A drivers weight in the seat will change the left front camber up to 0.4 degrees depending on driver weight.

[rydwhite]

Within wide oem specs is the problem! Perfection requires setting and maintaining at the exact midpoint of specs as you drive.

Most [95%] of tires are designed to tolerate a negative 0.5 degrees of camber....................-1.0 deg is significant and both sides should be matched within 0.25 degrees [closer is better]

A drivers weight in the seat will change the left front camber up to 0.4 degrees depending on driver weight.

I didn't realize a driver could have such an impact on the camber. Very good interesting info.

[Hookm36]

here are a few pics, all pics are of the same tire[URL]

[Hookm36]

this sucks, after checking out the car, it seems as though my rear passenger side tire, slants inward more than the left side, her is a few pics.......let me know what you think.I need to get this fixed before throwing 2K on new shoes.....

[04G356MT]

okay im too lazy right now to read all ^^ so ima just say if you have suspension mods and lowered you need more camber. and if not go get a alighnment

[Mr spock]

G35s have no camber adjustments for front camber from the factory you will need to install camber plates(or some sort of aftermarket kit) on the front to ease the negative camber,this is common on more cars than just infinitis these days.On my sedan its not that bad ,I keep my tires rotated often to help inner edge wear.I hear its worse on the coupes though.Being a honda tech this is also common on the S2000 and other hondas,pretty much the price you pay for a high performance car.

I thought the wheels on the G coupe were not rotatable. Yet another reduction in tire life. Do I have this wrong? Are you talking about left to right rotation? I thought you could not do this on radials. Please explain.

[Bocatrip]

I thought the wheels on the G coupe were not rotatable. Yet another reduction in tire life. Do I have this wrong? Are you talking about left to right rotation? I thought you could not do this on radials. Please explain.

The feathering is a common problem with all Coupes on front tires. There is no getting away from it other than installing an expensive camber kit. Your second option is to slow the feathering down to get the most miles out of your car. This can be done by setting the toe to the max within the allowable specs. For instance, if the specs for the front tire toe is 0.00 to 0.08 it would be adviseable to get as close to 0.08 on both tires as possible. This will slow down the scrubing of the inside of the tires. In addition, in response to your previous question with regards to rotation. You can rotate your front tires from side to side. You have two options. If your tires are non directionial, you can just move each tire to the opposite side of the car. However, if it is a directional tire, you need to dismount each tire, flip the tire around on the rim, remount the tire, and then place it on the opposite side of the car with a rebalance. Sounds like a pain? Welcome to the club! The Coupe eats tires. However if you do the above, you can get some extra miles out of your front tires. The rear tires are another issue. If you have the stock factory rims, these tires have a tendency to wear prematurely in the middle treads. The only possible solution for this is to get aftermarket rims with wider rims to accomodate the spread of the tire footprint. I have 20,000 miles on my 04 Coupe and I'm on my 4th set of tires due these issues. I'm have been close to throwing in the towel. The noise alone from the front feathering can make you go mad!!!!!! The car is still a good value, and all cars have their issues. It's all a matter of biting the bullet.

[Hookm36]

I went ahead and bought new wheels and tires........19x8.5 in front and 19x10 in the rear... I went w/ Nito 555 Xtreme 245/35/19 and 275/35/19. I should have on vehicle by thursday.......will post pics !

[Mr spock]

Thanks for that explanation Bocatrip. I was not expecting such severe tire wear! And I'm very sensitive to tire and road noise.

Why is the coupe worse than the sedan?

[Bocatrip]

Thanks for that explanation Bocatrip. I was not expecting such severe tire wear! And I'm very sensitive to tire and road noise.

Why is the coupe worse than the sedan?

The Sedan does not have the same aggessive front end set up that the Coupe has. Although the sedan does not have camber settings either, it does not manifest the inside front wear that the coupe does. My girlfriend has a 06 G35 Sedan and the ride is quiet as a churchmouse. Not a sound to mention from the tires. After 11,000 miles there is no inner feathering to talk about. Besides, the sedan of course has the luxury of rotation. The coupe sits lower and for whatever reason, road noise is more prevalent. When it rains, you can hear the water crashing against the inner fender protectors. If tires and road noise is an issue, definitely consider the sedan over the coupe.