initiation!

[BuudWeizErr]

This forum is being slow and it's boring me.

soooo, post your favorite initiation technique. the one you USE, not the one you think would work best if you don't drift.

and for those of you who don't really drift, here is a pic to at least make your click worthwhile(your car will never be that awesome)

what is your favorite DORIFTOOO technique?

[D1SR240]

me being the parking lot beginner/practiceer person i usually ebrake it, but once in a while i'll clutch kick it.

[BuudWeizErr]

me being the parking lot beginner/practiceer person i usually ebrake it, but once in a while i'll clutch kick it.

good start :ylsuper

[leroy0053]

power over. high speed only baby.

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[santi]

certain turns get certain techniques.. but lately i just come in really fast.. and yannk the ebrake for a long time then clutch kick it before the entrance. i've got a ka and an open diff.. so this is working best for me

[nab911]

I hate the e brake. Never use it... i always start to feint then as im ready to start the slide ( about 50 feet before the turn) i will heel toe into a lower gear if nessecary and to transfer the weight to the front tires and give it a little pop of the throttle and use the throttle to keep the drift smooth around the turn and feint into the next as i exit.

[santi]

chunkidori where do you stand on this.. i hear your pretty profound in the arts so whats your fav. or just most effective to you

[Ghettokracker71]

auto trans and open diff isn't exactly the best combo for drifting. I usually just have the car stopped or going lik 3-5MPH if that and turn the wheel all the way one way and floor it,and countersteer away,holding the gas down and countersteering until I want to stop sliding around then I just let off (scares the **** out of whoevers with me,esspecially when I don't warn them,my OS bar has almost been ripped off my door b/c it,lol)

[BuudWeizErr]

i use clutch kick almost exclusively.

unless it's a tight turn (like on a canyon) where I need to be precise on my breakaway, then it's ebrake.

sometimes, i feint plus clutchkick depending on the turn, never use braking, never power over, too inconsistent.

[leroy0053]

pover over too inconsistent huh? i guess i see where u are comin from. well i use the feint technique also. my japanese friends have always told me the best drifters try to be profiecient at all techniques. i agree with that. u never know, what if u slip oh damn i might use this technique to help out here. this is a pretty good discussion there chunki. initiation. when we got to the track sometimes the japanese or another american might wanna battle for some fun. well u might have to utilize another initiation technique.

[santi]

i use clutch kick almost exclusively.

unless it's a tight turn (like on a canyon) where I need to be precise on my breakaway, then it's ebrake.

sometimes, i feint plus clutchkick depending on the turn, never use braking, never power over, too inconsistent.

feint plus clutch kick is what i learned with on my 86's.. thats all i did in the 86(gts with lsd) but the s13 is pretty easy pimp.. i like this thread

[silkk]

feint + clutch kick

[BuudWeizErr]

problems with power over and braking:

braking: you need a ton of speed coming into the turn to use it... and very rarely will you find an event where you can use braking. you might be able to use it on the street or in a canyon, but i wouldn't want to make mistakes in a canyon.

power over: most of the time, if you're going to use power over, you can use another technique and start your drift wayyyy before the power over point. only use power over on a skidpad or something.. or if i make a mistake halfway through a run, then i might use it just because my run is already trash just to have some fun for the rest of the run.

[chmercer]

lol... if i try to do power over with my KA i just understeer haha...

on the stuff that i do (parking lot events) first turn pretty much always feint, then try to link as much as i can, if i loose speed then clutch kick to get it cooking again. i like to use lift throttle if i am going fast enough.

i use braking early on, before i have the corner really figured out, to keep from understeering and baking my fronts too hard.

[santi]

braking drift isnt an option for me.. i'm just not that good and not goin that fast.. sometimes i left foot brake if i'm goin too fast mid corner though...

for those that learned onna open diff.. when you switched to lsd or even vlsd how much did your technique change .. if any

[chmercer]

i didnt change my initiation all that much, but with clutch type i am able to continue the slide much longer. with open it would fall back in line pretty fast but i can keep it going much longer now.

im not exactly sure on the deffinition of "braking drift", but if there is a corner that you are pushing through, try tapping the brakes before you turn in, it will shift weight to the front and you will grip harder. thats all i meant.

[ca18det_boy]

auto trans and open diff isn't exactly the best combo for drifting. I usually just have the car stopped or going lik 3-5MPH if that and turn the wheel all the way one way and floor it,and countersteer away,holding the gas down and countersteering until I want to stop sliding around then I just let off (scares the **** out of whoevers with me,esspecially when I don't warn them,my OS bar has almost been ripped off my door b/c it,lol)

I beg to differ, ask any of the KC or Topeka guys........

[Eastcoast Wildboy]

Well im more of a normal brake user... I have enough power i can just go with gas and the back end will start to slide on me.

[sixxdeuce]

mostly clutch kick but e-brake at low speeds and when high entrance angles are desired.

[santi]

chmercer braking drift how i understand it is exactly what you were sayin.. just used to load the front end

[Eastcoast Wildboy]

But what if u do it by weight? u tap brakes turn right then get hard on it and jerk left sets back end around?

[santi]

uhh braking feint? haha

[sil_eightyRPS13]

mostly clutch kick but e-brake and when high entrance angles are desired.

yes this is true....... :oface feint gets the crowd, on linked action

[Dattebayo]

wow.

i never learned the e-brake cause mine has never worked!Im serious my e-brake only holds the car in one place, will not stop any wheels period.

pretty much always clutch kick, or as Keiichi says, "shift lock".

I still dont get feint tho... what u let off the gas and then what?

edit: shift lock is annoying in the rain, i say go power over in rain.

[BuudWeizErr]

wow.

i never learned the e-brake cause mine has never worked!Im serious my e-brake only holds the car in one place, will not stop any wheels period.

umm... you are putting the clutch in when you pull the ebrake, right?

[Dattebayo]

I assume thats what you are supposed to do, but i never tried doing it cause the e-brake is broken.the ebrake cable is stretched alot more than it should be. I have to pull it ALL the way up to get it to hold the discs at all.I should probably replace it as soon as i can cause ive been parking the car using compression in gear. I dont live in a hilly area so its sorta ok...

[santi]

have you taken the console apart and tightened the ebrake cable .. should be like a 10 or 8 mm nut. also shift lock and clutch kick work two different ways. so i dont think they can be the same thing.. one shocks the drivetrain into forward motion (clutch kick).. the other sorta drags the wheels into loosing traction(shift lock) then you give it gas .k man didnt use clutch kick b/c i think he considered it part of power over

[Dattebayo]

hmmm...interesting because i learned using shift lock as it was described in drift bible. I didnt know what it was called then, but i would like to know how you operate "clutch kick" then if you got the time to explain the procedure.

For example what i do is I come into the turn flick the wheel outside a little then throw it inside direction, shift according to the gear im in (usually up), counter-steer quickly and hit the throttle after a quick heel-toe to get the revs up to gear match so the drift comes out smooth.

Am i crazy or is that anything like what y'all use sometimes? Its kinda nuts when i do it...

[BuudWeizErr]

shift up into a drift? no, that does not sound right

[leroy0053]

lots of my japanese friends shift up while in the drift. there is only one course i can shift to 3rd at over here while in mid drift.

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