Infiniti Q45s.. in Japan?

[PongAtari]

I`ve been here for almost a month now, and I`ve seen two Infiniti Q45s on the street.. not Nissan Glorias (I think that`s what the JP equivalent is?), but Infiniti Q45s.. and I think they were RHD. I thought that Infiniti was a USA only thing.. what`s going on here?

[VimyJ]

I`ve been here for almost a month now, and I`ve seen two Infiniti Q45s on the street.. not Nissan Glorias (I think that`s what the JP equivalent is?), but Infiniti Q45s.. and I think they were RHD. I thought that Infiniti was a USA only thing.. what`s going on here?

I read somewhere that it was cool to rebadge your JP Nissan to the corresponding North American badges.

[Mayhem_J30]

are they new or old Q's? I've seen pictures of the nissan badged Q's on the 1st and 2nd gens. Maybe they're marketing the 3rd gen as infiniti.

[Chally]

1st & 2nd gen Q's were called Infiniti in Japan.The 3rd Gen. Q on, is called a Cima. The G50 body codes are Infiniti or President, (the President has a different nose & also comes in stretch{as you can see in the top left picture}) while the 3rd gen Q has a Y33 body code, the same as the Cima in Japan.

[Mayhem_J30]

1st & 2nd gen Q's were called Infiniti in Japan.The 3rd Gen. Q on, is called a Cima. The G50 body codes are Infiniti or President, (the President has a different nose & also comes in stretch{as you can see in the top left picture}) while the 3rd gen Q has a Y33 body code, the same as the Cima in Japan.

hmmm..maybe what i meant was on the motor it said nissan instead of infiniti.

[Chally]

Yes, that is correct. We get Soarers over here, & I've seen a few with Lexus Badges.

The Q has a Japanese built engine & the Infiniti tag is stuck on & can be replace with a Nissan one. Nissan built them just like Toyota built the Lexus & Honda built the Acura etc.

In fact, the V8 Cima has the Nissan name/logo on it & you really can't tell the engines apart.:icesangel

[Chally]

Ain't the President sweet???

[Q451990]

1st & 2nd gen Q's were called Infiniti in Japan.The 3rd Gen. Q on, is called a Cima.

When you say 1st Generation - do you mean 90-93 or 90-96? There's some debate on that... I've always considered 1st gen to be 90-96, second 97-01, third 02+ - but I remember several discussions about that on the old board... time to stir the pot again

P.S. Love the pics... where'd you get them?

[Chally]

I call the 1st gen from 90-93. It may be the wrong terminology, but it seperates the shape changes to the grill etc.

I've got 2 books with every car sold in Japan from 96-98. They have all the info on all vehicles, as long as you can read Japanese.They are the officially recognised "Bible on Cars" in Japan, so if you need any pics of any car made during that period in Japan, I can scan one for you.

[greg_atlanta]

I was in Tokyo earlier this year and did see A FEW Q45s with Infiniti badges which were exactly like the US models except they were right hand drive.

I'm sure they kept a few for themselves... nothing wrong with that!

Did see quite a few Presidents, esp. in the nicer parts of town.

[greg_atlanta]

same car, in Ueno park

[Chally]

That looks like the LWB one. Get rid of those mirrors on the fender & they look REAL nice.

[PalmerWMD]

I call the 1st gen from 90-93. It may be the wrong terminology, but it seperates the shape changes to the grill etc.

I've got 2 books with every car sold in Japan from 96-98. They have all the info on all vehicles, as long as you can read Japanese.They are the officially recognised "Bible on Cars" in Japan, so if you need any pics of any car made during that period in Japan, I can scan one for you.

I also prefer first gen to stand for 90-93.But maybe since the changes to 94-96 aren't huge Mark would be a better term, as in the old Bentleys, jaguars and lincolns .

Q45 MarkI: 90-93Mark II: 94-96Mark III: 97-01MarkIV :02+

Of course the term mark doesn't imply as thourough a make over as generation does.So I can see how some when using the term generation will lump the 90-93 and 94-96 together.

Fred....

[Q45tech]

"But maybe since the changes to 94-96 aren't huge "

say what............ about 87% of the components are different! the engine , transmission, driveshaft, the seats, the interior, the dash indicators are flipped, the radio, all the wiring, the doors, the fenders, the entire front, the hood, the front shocks, the steering rack, the AC system, the heat, the exhaust piping length, the cats, etc etc,etc. the transmission mount vibration damper, the internal control modules are multiplexed instead of thousands of wires in Gen 1.

the 90-93 are about 95% interchangable Gen 1, the 94/95 Gen 2, the 96 Gen 3 [because of engine and OBD2]. The CIMA Buick Gen 4, then Finally The 2002.

Same with Lexus major major changes from 90-93 to 94 another total redesign in 98, then again in 2001...........on many many items we have to keep 5 different part numbers....rotors/pads are a nightmare they kept changing the dimensions every 2 years.

the only parts interchangable are the fuel pump, the diff, the individual suspension arms, the rear subframe, the plenum and throttle body.

[Stoneage_Turbo]

place wire wheels on a president and i dont think i would be able to tell it from a 1989 vandenplas jag .

[PalmerWMD]

"But maybe since the changes to 94-96 aren't huge "

say what............ about 87% of the components are different! the engine , transmission, driveshaft, the seats, the interior, the dash indicators are flipped, the radio, all the wiring, the doors, the fenders, the entire front, the hood, the front shocks, the steering rack, the AC system, the heat, the exhaust piping length, the cats, etc etc,etc. the transmission mount vibration damper, the internal control modules are multiplexed instead of thousands of wires in Gen 1.

the only parts interchangable are the fuel pump, the diff, the individual suspension arms, the rear subframe, the plenum and throttle body.

Oh no!this pains me, I have to disagree with our Guru:help

But I have a differnt angle on this:

The engine is not a an actual redesign but an improvement for reliablity/emmisions/producability and such which just happend to make it (essentially) non interchangable unless many other things changed as well.The transmission is also essentially the same as before with mostly reliability improvementsAs are all other components (that and increased softness and features)The entire car is not so much a complete redesign as more of a thourough tweak.

The driveshaft of course is fully interchangeable Iand ordering a new one for a 90-93 will result in delievery of the (slightly redesigned) 94-96 part.

As you may remember I currently have a 94 driveshaft in my 91, which was fully interchangeble.

In any case your agruements seem to support the division into 90-93 and 94-96 as seperate generations.Which I agree with.

Fred...