Infiniti 9th WORST car brand of 2014 ---> WTF

[DaSerb]

Infiniti takes 9th worst car brand of 2014.....what is that all about. I would never guess it.

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/toyota-tops ... 05033.html

[antzrus]

This is a rating of lay people's perceptions (i.e. beauty is to the eye of the beholder), not performance and durability etc.

Remember: "“Whilst part of what we perceive comes through our senses from the object before us, another part (and it may be the larger part) always comes out of our own mind.”
― William James, The Principles of Psychology, 1890

As a recently retired clinical psychologist I know from almost 40 years experience that what comes out of too many minds is mush. Why, even yesterday there was a widely acclaimed in the media debate about the viability of "creationism." I mean this is the 21 century...

[DaSerb]

F@ck that...it offends me as an infiniti owner.

[svard75]

I completely agree with antz. Don't stress what a survey says. Remember we're all very biased.
There are many cars out there that look better, are better quality, and are much more economical. Think about the numbers visiting just this sub forum, not much, plus when you look at sales numbers Nissan in General is 50% under Toyota. I also feel the new lines are way too curvey for people to consider Infiniti.

[SmoovC]

All that review means to me is that Infiniti is an even better purchase value in the used market.

[Ilya]

I completely agree with antz. Don't stress what a survey says. Remember we're all very biased.
There are many cars out there that look better, are better quality, and are much more economical. Think about the numbers visiting just this sub forum, not much, plus when you look at sales numbers Nissan in General is 50% under Toyota. I also feel the new lines are way too curvey for people to consider Infiniti.

Too curvy? This is absolute SEX (in car terms):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFtXa6kVBOE[/youtube]

[flex128]

I work as a ford sales and i study product allot i can say not manny people own Infiniti for one and that the only up side about Ford is that their good on fuel and safety features up the a** i mean over 12 airbags in a car and crush zones help with that lol but over all quality many brands are way above them and my 2008 altima 3.5 does just as good in MPG as a 2014 2.0 ecoboost Fusion but it will come down to what people can afford and like i for one like the new body style fusion will i ever buy one heck no i mean it took ford years to get almost as many features as my 2006 infiniti lol

[Larz]

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[Larz]

You lot have made some great points. Let us remember that the avge consumer in the states has two considerations that drive the choice of car they drive: fuel economy and purchase price. The bargain basement buyers will never make Inifiti as popular as Ford or Chevrolet.
Even those who buy BMWs and Mercedes are buying them at least partially because of their pedigree earned over many many years. Infiniti is too new to even have a pedigree (20 yrs in US, less than 10 years in the UK) and due to it's completely inept marketing team, it's not likely that Infiniti will ever reach it's full potential for sales in any country.
In England, the M's that are most often plated (MOT testing) are deisel versions not even offered in the states. The M30 diesel is turbocharged, same body and interior as the M37 but with a 3L diesel engine, and gets surprising fuel economy (nearly 50mpg hwy, 30mpg city), but you won't see that model in the states - dunno why.
Also, in Europe, the M is seen as a 'luxury limo' due to the M37's near 45,000 pound price tag in UK and more subdued body style - curvy and smooth instead of agressive and sporty like other cars in it's price range. It's up against BMW, Audi, Jaguar, and Mercedes - all with a long pedigree of being proper sport saloons. For them, the sport handling is first, luxury is second. The M37 / M30d are seen as a car that puts luxury first, and driving excitement second. BTW, these are the only M's available in Europe - seeing an M56 is more than rare - it's not bloody likely unless it was shipped from outside Europe by a sheik or equivalent.

Here is an example of how the M is presented and sold in the UK. An old video by Simon (well known in Infiniti circles in Europe) from the Infiniti Center in Reading, driving an M37 petrol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tu5R3tN7tI
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A German reviewer driving the M30d gives some reasons why the M fails in Europe compared to the big 4 (Audi, BMW, Mercedes, and Jaguar)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euG5G0IM5IM
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And finally, 5th gear's review of the M30d (about 40,000 pounds in UK):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MnMyObTMh0
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[svard75]

I completely agree with antz. Don't stress what a survey says. Remember we're all very biased.
There are many cars out there that look better, are better quality, and are much more economical. Think about the numbers visiting just this sub forum, not much, plus when you look at sales numbers Nissan in General is 50% under Toyota. I also feel the new lines are way too curvey for people to consider Infiniti.

Too curvy? This is absolute SEX (in car terms):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFtXa6kVBOE[/youtube]

LOL add Vossens and lower any car and it looks good. Actually this Q50S now looks more like an audi could it actually be influence from JdN? http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/Infini ... 2013-01-14

The wheels remind me of a hotwheels car I used to own
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvxg91GOErc[/youtube]

Just saying that people don't generally buy a car with the intent to lower it and slap some new rims on it. I personally don't like the pointy lower lip at the front. I feel it could have looked better with a more subtle approach. It reminds me more of what Nismo did to the 350s and 370s.

Now the interior is fantastic in design. I really dig wrap arounds with all the knobs and gadgets at close range, very cool.

[ericthered]

The article is all about perception.

Scion IS A Toyota
Scion is 5th from the bottom!
Maybe Scion is a good deal in the used car market, too?

But still, having Infiniti below Jeep hurts. I know in Europe people somehow think a Jeep is great, including my relatives right up until their almost new rental Jeep failed mid-day in Death Valley.