In this thread, You see Kenrik's engine from Takara..

[maxhopper]

So what kind of warranty/guarantee did you get in writing from them? From breifly looking at their website, it doesn't appear that they make any claims as to the condition of the motors.

When I ordered my SR20DE from SOKO, the invoice had the terms and conditions of the limited warranty printed on the back.

[AZhitman]

CD, great post.

Todd, do us a favor - Shush.

I have a message in to Sean as well....

[Kenrik]

well this is definately a **** deal but this is turning into a flame festand sean hasn't even had a chance to respond.

I doubt they intentionally sent you a ****ed up motor but they areliable because they were negligent if the product was not deliveredin "as described" condition.

they don't owe you a rebuild, they owe you another used motor ingood usable condition. if sean wants the first motor back he shouldpay for shipping and crating plus comp shipping on the second one.otherwise, he should let you keep it for parts to compensate you foryour trouble.

if it is easier for him to pay for a rebuild and you are happy with thatoption, then it is up to the 2 of you to work that out. the reason thisis such a big deal for nico is because takara is a sponsor.

I really hope this works out for you kenrik, cause that hella sucks.

IB4TL.

Thanks, actually that is a very good post and you make good points.

[AmoebAssassin]

Wow, that sucks. I'd hate for this to happen to anyone, even kenrik. I hope your stuff gets resolved.

I highly suggest opening the oil pan and looking at your crank. There is a good chance that your bottom end is not in as bad shape. Even a residual oil coat will prevent rust on bottom end parts, and bearings are made of bronze--which chemically cannot rust.

My guess is that this motor sat for a while (possibly outside int eh rain) with the valve cover off. You may be able to fix it with just cams, but that's to be seen by the condition of the bottom end. Get some pics of that up if you can. Also save the oil that comes out of the motor so it can be inspected for coolant or gas mixing.

[AZhitman]

My concern is not so much with the light rust on the cam lobes but the varnish buildup that's apparent in the head.

That's indicative of a motor run WAY too long without regular oil changes.

[Jookmasta]

well kenrik, im definitely saddened by the sight of those pictures. perhaps this was a gross oversight on takara's part for not even opening the oil cap. perhaps takara has that much faith in their supplier that they dont bother to check the engines as it could may well be family who is doing the engine searching or arrangement overseas. nonetheless, i know the entire NICO community agrees that the engine you showed us IS NOT in good condition. do they have a startup warranty? i know the ebay engines come with that 90 day warranty so i would at least expect the same if not more with takara.

also, no need for the threats as of yet kenrik as you should definitely let them or give them time to respond. i'd be pissed off too but the threat making is not called for (at this point).

actually you should change the title of the thread to make sure takara looks into it. i really only checked it cuz i know ya but perhaps u should title it like "Takara Motors please look"......

in the mean while, ill be patiently awaiting takara's response on this thread................

[WidebodyZ]

Wow, that sucks. I'd hate for this to happen to anyone, even kenrik.

Bahahahahahahaha!!!!

[Red coupe]

Wow thats shady.....I cant belive they didn't even do as much as take a valve cover off to check out the engine...Hell even looking at the oil cap shoulda raised some eyebrows...

But damn man before making the flame takara thread you shoulda at least gotten in contact with them first...

[Kenrik]

Wow, that sucks. I'd hate for this to happen to anyone, even kenrik. I hope your stuff gets resolved.

I highly suggest opening the oil pan and looking at your crank. There is a good chance that your bottom end is not in as bad shape. Even a residual oil coat will prevent rust on bottom end parts, and bearings are made of bronze--which chemically cannot rust.

My guess is that this motor sat for a while (possibly outside int eh rain) with the valve cover off. You may be able to fix it with just cams, but that's to be seen by the condition of the bottom end. Get some pics of that up if you can. Also save the oil that comes out of the motor so it can be inspected for coolant or gas mixing.

To take off the oil pan I would need to take off the transmission and get it on my engine stand. I'm not sure at this point if i'm going to be even keeping the engine so taking it apart more seems counter productive.

Sean told me that when he was in Japan they drove the car that this engine came out of for two days and checked everything out before putting it into the container. I just don't see how that's possible...

He also said that if anything was wrong with the engine, rings etc.. that he would give me the parts to fix it free.

[Kenrik]

My concern is not so much with the light rust on the cam lobes but the varnish buildup that's apparent in the head.

That's indicative of a motor run WAY too long without regular oil changes.

It's not light rust Greg.. it does not wipe off.

And I did get in contact with Sean.. he said his phone was dieing and hung up, Now it just goes straight to voicemail.

He also told me this engine had been shipped out last wendsday. When infact it was shipped just two days ago.


Modified by Kenrik at 3:05 PM 7/14/2006

[StrangeLove]

Apparently I'm not funny, as my picture lasted minutes

Anyways, that sucks kenrik, I know how it feels to be screwed over. I'm sure it'll get corrected eventually.

[89_240Coupe]

wow, that engine looked disgusting... you shouldnt even worry about taking the bottom end off to look at it, might scare you even more... Ive been searching, reading and talking to tons of people to do a swap for myself and ive never seen or heard of anyone getting an engine in the condition you did.. and to top it off, he lied to you numerous times, and now wont even answer your call... JHOT FTW

[gabossie]

This is really a shame. Patience is key here though if you want to work it out. Being here for quite a few years now I've seen this happen over and over. The people that freak out and try to sabotage the company end up getting screwed. Neither you nor they want that to happen. For your and Takara's sake, I hope this gets worked out soon.

[89_240Coupe]

This is really a shame. Patience is key here though if you want to work it out. Being here for quite a few years now I've seen this happen over and over. The people that freak out and try to sabotage the company end up getting screwed. Neither you nor they want that to happen. For your and Takara's sake, I hope this gets worked out soon.

Honestly, I agree with you in everything you say, except for the fact that Kenrik said that he called them, and pointed out that they basically lied to him numerous times. Patience is definitely key, but you can only push a man so far.. two lies and when he tried to contact him he basically hung up and now has his phone off.. and its not like were talking about a $150 intake this is a $2500 engine that Kenrik has basically been saving for for months and to finally get his engine in that condition, I couldnt even imagine how pissed I would be.

[Graphfixz]

man, that just sucks! Sorry Kenrik!

[Florida240sx]

Give Takara a chance. Perhaps the shipping company is too blame. How many engines do you think they transport. There is one thing that could of happened. Every keep cool until Sean replies.Although I have to say this: "After all of your bashing on our KA-T's........We told you to keep it.....now look"

[Kenrik]

Sean says he will fix the problem, Don't post any more negative stuff untill it's resolved.

[Florida240sx]

Was their an engine mx up or what happened? Because I doubt it would of had any reasonable compression #'s. Or just wait for the future post of: In this thread you see Kenrik Happy with his SR

[nvrplzd240]

ya really.. what was the problem?

did they know about it?was it the wrong engine?did they not check it?

[AZhitman]

This is really a shame. Patience is key here though if you want to work it out. Being here for quite a few years now I've seen this happen over and over.

The people that freak out and try to sabotage the company end up getting screwed. Neither you nor they want that to happen. For your and Takara's sake, I hope this gets worked out soon.

Gabossie speaks the truth.

Kenrik, please post up when a resolution is reached. For now, this one is lockified.

BTW, I've spoken with Sean just now and he says he will rectify the situation.