Important: Within the next couple of days, I am going to buy new tires at DT

[wbloomfield]

Have it down to 4 tires in order of priority, one being the top choice.

1. Yokohama TRZ (No rebate)2. Michelin Destiny (Rebate)3. Pirelli P4 (No rebate)4. Yokohama Touring-S (No rebate)

Have any of you people out there have any of these tires on your Rogue? Do you have an opinion on them? Good or Bad? Even if you don't have these tires on your Rogue, I would love to hear your opinion on them.

Hope to hear from you soon and thanks.Chris

[wbloomfield]

Have it down to 4 tires in order of priority, one being the top choice.

1. Yokohama TRZ (No rebate)2. Michelin Destiny (Rebate)3. Pirelli P4 (No rebate)4. Yokohama Touring-S (No rebate)

Have any of you people out there have any of these tires on your Rogue? Do you have an opinion on them? Good or Bad? Even if you don't have these tires on your Rogue, I would love to hear your opinion on them.

Hope to hear from you soon and thanks.Chris

One other thing if your guys have any of these tires, I was wondering if you noticed any change in MPG? Did it go up, down or stayed the same? I don't want to kill my MPG that I am currently getting by using the wrong tire.

[kerrton]

Hey, not sure about the tires but I doubt you'll get many responses since there are already about 3 threads going regarding tires. I'd recommend reading over these, and then if you still have specific additional questions add them to those threads. Your choice, but I thought I'd just let you know that there has been a lot of discussion about tires already that you can review and join in to.

[mlmcgahee]

I have had the Yokohama TRZ tires on my Rogue for almost a year now. Fantastic tires. MPG has not changed. Very smoth/quiet ride.

Check out the thread below...

zer...rogue

[wbloomfield]

Now it's shaved down to two, the Michelin Destiny and Yokohama Avid TRZ.I might add that I will have the Destiny's siped if they are my final choice. Siping is running $10.00 per tire. The Yoko's don't need it. My price per tire is: Michelin $111.00 per tire before rebate(70.00 rebate). End cost is $93.50 per tire and Yoko's $103.00 per tire(No rebate). I will have them road forced balance which is an extra price but I believe it's well worth it. Might get the extended warrenty. Not sure yet!

[wbloomfield]

Well, I went over to DT and ordered the Michelin Destiny's. They did not have my size in stock or local so they are getting them from Reno. Boy, thats a distance away. I just hope they arrive in time so I can get that 70.00 rebate. Otherwise, I am going to be real POed. It ends the middle of this month. Also, I received a 25.00 gift card for buying at DT in my email. That was unexpected. I will update when I know more.

QUOTE=wbloomfield]Now it's shaved down to two, the Michelin Destiny and Yokohama Avid TRZ.I might add that I will have the Destiny's siped if they are my final choice. Siping is running $10.00 per tire. The Yoko's don't need it. My price per tire is: Michelin $111.00 per tire before rebate(70.00 rebate). End cost is $93.50 per tire and Yoko's $103.00 per tire(No rebate). I will have them road forced balance which is an extra price but I believe it's well worth it. Might get the extended warrenty. Not sure yet! [/QUOTE]

[takeshi]

Even if you don't have these tires on your Rogue, I would love to hear your opinion on them.

I find Tirerack.com a useful resource when tire shopping.

[dolbydj]

Hi Chris, I got the Yokohama Touring S in January for my Nissan X-Trail in 16 inch size for about $675 in Toronto. They were very good in the snow considering that they are all seasons. They are suppose to be a newer tire with better winter siping. I would recommend these or the TRZ (which I have no experience with but are supposedly an upgrade). I need to ask you about Discount Tire as I am thinking about driving down to get Enkei wheels (FLC-01), in 18 inch with TRZ installed on my Rogue S. I would pre-order them and drive down to put them on. Total cost is $1380 based on the DT calculator. I just don't want to get the run around when I get down there. Thanks.

[wbloomfield]

Well, all I know is my deal is going to run about $111.00 per tire minus the rebate money which is $17.50 per tire. Everyone I was talking to had nothing bad to say about Michelin. Yokohama had a few bad reports about cracking in there sidewalls after about a year or so. Now I had two Yoko's, TRZ and Touring S as posibles but did you notice how soft the side walls were on these tires. I did. The Michelin Destiny was firmer. The had full depth sipes too. The TRZ had adaptive sipes which would have been for the full depth of the tire. The Touring S, I do not think they had that. You might want to think about going with at least the TRZ's. Now getting the deal done, I used DT and DTD against one another. Tirerack was in the mix too. DT will match anyones prices. The only thing you will get stuck for is tax. My deal was just shy of $700.00 minus my rebate and $25.00 gift card sent to my email. End price was a little over $600.00 which included extra warrenty, road force balance, labor, tax.

Hi Chris, I got the Yokohama Touring S in January for my Nissan X-Trail in 16 inch size for about $675 in Toronto. They were very good in the snow considering that they are all seasons. They are suppose to be a newer tire with better winter siping. I would recommend these or the TRZ (which I have no experience with but are supposedly an upgrade). I need to ask you about Discount Tire as I am thinking about driving down to get Enkei wheels (FLC-01), in 18 inch with TRZ installed on my Rogue S. I would pre-order them and drive down to put them on. Total cost is $1380 based on the DT calculator. I just don't want to get the run around when I get down there. Thanks.

[wbloomfield]

Also, included siping.

[wbloomfield]

Well, I recieved a phone call from DT that my tires came. I am just leaving to have them installed. Hope it goes good

[lou from ny]

siping??? what's that?

[wbloomfield]

siping??? what's that?

It's making cuts into the tire creating edges for traction.

[wbloomfield]

Well, I just got back from DT and my bad luck with getting tires continues.First they break one(DT paying for that)of my air pressure sensors which they don't have any left and has to be ordered. DT tried to order an OEM spec sensor not the Nissan OEM . I caught that right away. They did not like that. I made them order one from the dealer with Nissan writen on it. Theres going to be no funny business about warrenty issues on this car in the future. I need to have your opions though on something that is a pure appenance issue. Two of my tires were mounted one way and the other two, the other way. Would this be any concern other then apperiance issue? Like safety? Is there a right side or wrong side to mounting these tires? Again, these tires are Michelin Destiny's.

[wbloomfield]

Just wanted to update you on what's going on.. My Air Sensor finally came in to DT. I made them order me the Nissan sensor, not a non Nissan Sensor. They had to reset the warning light with scan tool. That had to be done at another DT. Also, had them flip the two tires on my passenger side so everything looks right. So far, the tires seem smooth running. No high speed vibrations. Of coarse, they were road forced again. Now off to get an alignment done tomorrow and I should be through. I will give an update on how the tires are doing later.

[bill875]

I'm glad that you got everything straightened out at DT. I am interested in knowing how much it costs to have an alignment done on the Rogue. Also, should I go to my dealer or somewhere else to have one done?

[takeshi]

siping??? what's that?

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tireSi ... 8rubber%29

[wbloomfield]

I'm glad that you got everything straightened out at DT. I am interested in knowing how much it costs to have an alignment done on the Rogue. Also, should I go to my dealer or somewhere else to have one done?

I just paid $64.99 for a 4 wheel alignment at Belle Tire. My dealer cost $90.00 bucks. Considering I had to wait and I have an appointment at dealer next week for 30,000 mile maintance, I sould have just got it then. Sometimes, it's just better to pay a little more and you don't have to deal with it more then once.

[rjchoops]

Has anyone replaced their tires with the Pirelli P4 or Kumho Solus KR21?

I've have 43,000 on my original Conti's and I believe it's time for new. I'm also looking at the YOKO Avid TRZ but now worried about cracks in sidewalls as someone stated. Also the Michelin Hydro Edge or Michelin Harmony.

Who recommends what?

[Elton Noway]

Has anyone replaced their tires with the Pirelli P4 or Kumho Solus KR21?

I've have 43,000 on my original Conti's and I believe it's time for new. I'm also looking at the YOKO Avid TRZ but now worried about cracks in sidewalls as someone stated. Also the Michelin Hydro Edge or Michelin Harmony.

Who recommends what?

Well... to be honest when it comes to tires... I personally tend to be more analytical. I don't care how cool the side wall lettering might be or what tires the Indy car drivers are using. In the same regard, one or two friends or a handful of people in a forum telling a specific tire looks great or is quiet on the highway would never be the basis for me to make a tire buying decision. Consumer agencies (like Consumer Reports) spend tons of money every year on tire testing and research (among other things) which is far more aggressive and conclusive than any advice you might pick up from a co-worker at the water cooler. For tires, CR tests wet and dry braking, tread wear, noise, handling and many other factors. Overall test results eventually give each tire a "score". The higher the score... the better the tire.

Granted a testing agencies top choice tire may not have a side wall design you like but for me its all about safety. One year the CR top rated tire had a butt ugly sidewall design. I purchased it anyway. I'll admit I never got use to them but they were terrific tires, never hydroplaned and lasted a long time. For me its all about safety and handing. A badass looking tire that can kill you or that only last for 15K miles makes little sense to me. I've been buying tires solely on CR yearly testing and have never been disappointed by performance, noise or adverse weather conditions. Oh... and forget about brand loyalty... one year CR may rate Michelins as their top scoring tire and the next year it might be one of the worst. Its about the testing, not the brand name.

Other factors to consider is if the buyer lives in a milder climate and is looking for a good performing, year around, "all season" tire, or more aggressive and looking for a high performance tire... or even an Ultra High Performance tire (although why anyone would install UHP's on a Rogue escapes me) The CR ratings are broken out by these various categories, then each tire is rated as to how it performs within in each category that applies. Some top rated tires in one category may not even qualify for another category. For example the top rated all season Michelin does compete with the performance all season tires because of their the S/T rating whereas the Performance all season tires are H/V rated. (i.e., apples and oranges)



Just FYI... the Yoko AVID TRZ was part of this All Season rating testing but only scored a 70 so they were a little further down the chart (to keep the pic small I didn't bother to capture it in the image) The Michelin Harmony is also considered an all season tire but for some reason was not included in the CR testing. Its been around since at least 2005 and there have been rumors of it being discontinued but nothing confirmed. Michelin still advertises it on their website. FYI: I've been suscribing to CR for many many years (recently switching to their On-Line magazine over the mailed hardcopy) My only complaint is CR may rate a product as top rated but when you go to the store you'll find it has been discontinued or the manufacturer if has substitued a different model number which leaves you in the dark because you don't know what product changes they might have made to justify the model number change.

Edit: (Added Speed Rating to the chart)
Modified by Elton Noway at 10:42 AM 1/11/2010

[DanTheMan]

I put Yokohama TRZ's on my Sienna last summer. They are a great tire. The only thing I noticed was a little chirping sound, from the sipes, on certain pavement. I don't know about the other tires. TOYO makes great tires too. I got close to 80K miles on their Premium tires. They were great.

Cheers!

[Elton Noway]

I put Yokohama TRZ's on my Sienna last summer. They are a great tire. The only thing I noticed was a little chirping sound, from the sipes, on certain pavement. I don't know about the other tires. TOYO makes great tires too. I got close to 80K miles on their Premium tires. They were great. Cheers!

Yep... I ran Yokos on my Acura for several years and loved them. Was an awesome performance tire. Unfortunately it was several years ago and I don't remember the specific model. Anyway... here's how CR is currently scoring the Yokos:

[tcmo]

Most of these tires being mentioned are either "S or T" speed rating. The Rogue specifies "H" speed rating. Many of the tire dealers around here (Missouri) either won't install a lower speed tire or will make you sign a waiver. Any of you have this problem?

[wbloomfield]

Most of these tires being mentioned are either "S or T" speed rating. The Rogue specifies "H" speed rating. Many of the tire dealers around here (Missouri) either won't install a lower speed tire or will make you sign a waiver. Any of you have this problem?

I had no problems with that up here in Michigan. My Rogue is not going to be able to do speeds up to 130mph even with the H rating (H) on the tires.Hell, this car has not gone over 90mph but I know it will do over 100mph because there is plenty of pedle still left before I hit the floor board. I just bet you that your speed limiter will kickin long before you approach 130mph.

[Elton Noway]

Most of these tires being mentioned are either "S or T" speed rating. The Rogue specifies "H" speed rating. Many of the tire dealers around here (Missouri) either won't install a lower speed tire or will make you sign a waiver. Any of you have this problem?

Yep, I've run into that before. For the most part it depends on the tire store / chain. As you mentioned the Rogue is identified as needing a H Rated tire. While some tire stores will install anything you ask for... others may ask you to sign a waiver acknowledging you are aware you've requested a tire other than what is recommended by the manufacturer.

The higher speed rating of an H rated tire puts in the "Performance" class which offers a lower profile sidewall, wider footprint and better handling characteristics. A trade off is wider footprint which equates to more rubber on the road. More rubber = higher rolling resistance which in turn can impact your MPG.) That said... the rule of thumb is to always buy tires with the same or greater speed rating than original equipment and the Rogue calls for an H Rated tire.

Even with ratings... buyers have to make decisions based on trade-offs. For instance the top rated tire below has better tread life and rolling resistance due to the materials used etc... however... as a result it scores lower in "Noise" test. Some people will gladly trade the quieter ride for shorter tread life. Internet reviews found online have a fair share of complaints with the Michelin Primacy due to its noise level. Then again that would depend on the car wearing them and the quality of the vehicles soundproofing.


Modified by Elton Noway at 11:26 AM 1/11/2010