http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/...yview
This is exactly what is happening in Durfur as well. Without anyone to carry out justice, the strong preys on the weak.
A quick Iraq pull out will have the country left on the shoulders of the weak police and politicians that the country will soon be over ran by warlords and instigators from Iran, Iraq's arch nemesis.
Image of Iraq in near future. War torn Afghan is heaven for child rapist.
Re: Image of Iraq in near future. War torn Afghan is heaven ... (Soravia)
You just made me one very pissed off *****, Soravia..
I am so angry right now.... I am going to go watch some cartoons or something to calm down before I find a flight over there and start my own personal mission to pop some punks.
I am so angry right now.... I am going to go watch some cartoons or something to calm down before I find a flight over there and start my own personal mission to pop some punks.
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Don't blame Soravia... Blame the Nancy-boys that want to turn tail and bail.
No question we should probably not been there in the first place. No question we're in the middle of a cluster****. No question we need to either go full-bore or don't go at all.
Ya know, the worst time to buy a pair of new shoes is right before you're gonna be walking all day.
Something tells me that this JUST AIN'T the time to be trying on new shoes....
No question we should probably not been there in the first place. No question we're in the middle of a cluster****. No question we need to either go full-bore or don't go at all.
Ya know, the worst time to buy a pair of new shoes is right before you're gonna be walking all day.
Something tells me that this JUST AIN'T the time to be trying on new shoes....
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I wasn't blaming Sor, I just wanted to mention that reading that article got my blood boiling over.. a little too quickly.
There are a few things that will set me off instantaneously. Harm to animals and harm to children, pretty much is it as far as that goes, everything else takes time to culminate. But, I went from sedate to "I want to murder some ragheads RTFN" in nanoseconds. Which, is not good considering.
I don't like the fact that their culture is that way, but I can't say that it's bad for being the way it is. The women appreciate it, because they feel protected, for the most part. It's when they get treated like dogs that they cry out for civil liberties, and when we swoop in to rescue them, then they cry out that we're not being fair to their religion. They're hypocritical, really.
There are a few things that will set me off instantaneously. Harm to animals and harm to children, pretty much is it as far as that goes, everything else takes time to culminate. But, I went from sedate to "I want to murder some ragheads RTFN" in nanoseconds. Which, is not good considering.
I don't like the fact that their culture is that way, but I can't say that it's bad for being the way it is. The women appreciate it, because they feel protected, for the most part. It's when they get treated like dogs that they cry out for civil liberties, and when we swoop in to rescue them, then they cry out that we're not being fair to their religion. They're hypocritical, really.
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Hum, let's see. Maybe we could blame the HMFIC who got all this started. We never should have let a checker player talk us into playing chess.AZhitman wrote:Don't blame Soravia... Blame the Nancy-boys that want to turn tail and bail..
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Shoulda woulda coulda.rn79870 wrote:Hum, let's see. Maybe we could blame the HMFIC who got all this started. We never should have let a checker player talk us into playing chess.
The time for that has passed.
The CURRENT issue is "now what do we do with this"?AZhitman wrote:No question we should probably not been there in the first place. No question we're in the middle of a cluster****. No question we need to either go full-bore or don't go at all.
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Nothing. We can do nothing.AZhitman wrote:The CURRENT issue is "now what do we do with this"?
How can we help out when the religion itself wants to actually persecute the children who were raped? The crimes that were committed were horrendous and the men that did them will get away because in their religion there must be 4 witnesses. 4 FCSKING WITNESSES?!?!?! Otherwise they're accused of adultery and fornication? I'm all about religions freedom and I'm all for the letter of the law, but that's just not right.
You cannot help those who don't wish to help themselves.
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The first thing we do, from the standpoint of what's best for America, is we learn a lesson from this. We steadfastly refuse to ever let this happen again.AZhitman wrote:
The CURRENT issue is "now what do we do with this"?
As for the Afghan people, we need the damn UN to step up to the plate and offer some sort of security force that has the power to hold these scumbag child rapist accountable. Or better yet, ship them to Gitmo, where they can check in, but they can't check out.
It also accounts for HOW the religion is interpreted. Also remember that Islam 'WAS' not the only religion there. They killed off a lot of Buddhist and Christians in that country.
Most of the Afghan people support teaching girls and women's right. It's the Arab soilders and their thugs who enjoy raping and murdering little girls, doing it all in the name of their god.
What should be is that since Afghan is NOT United States of America, we should start a campaign of terror back on the Taliban. All Taliban does is sell opium, rape and murder. Afghan people would give them no support if it was not for opium money. Give the Afghan people something to do other than opium trade and have the Taliban killed off brutally. If any of them are captured or surrendered, kill them off in public execution. This way most Taliban will go back to their own Arab nations.Terror tactics liked this worked great for the likes of Iran government and many, it will work in Afghan too. No one will complain about executing rapist and murderers. Putting them in jail will only have them come back later, like that jail break for example.
Most of the Afghan people support teaching girls and women's right. It's the Arab soilders and their thugs who enjoy raping and murdering little girls, doing it all in the name of their god.
What should be is that since Afghan is NOT United States of America, we should start a campaign of terror back on the Taliban. All Taliban does is sell opium, rape and murder. Afghan people would give them no support if it was not for opium money. Give the Afghan people something to do other than opium trade and have the Taliban killed off brutally. If any of them are captured or surrendered, kill them off in public execution. This way most Taliban will go back to their own Arab nations.Terror tactics liked this worked great for the likes of Iran government and many, it will work in Afghan too. No one will complain about executing rapist and murderers. Putting them in jail will only have them come back later, like that jail break for example.
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Which brings us full-circle to something I said a while back:rn79870 wrote:
The first thing we do, from the standpoint of what's best for America, is we learn a lesson from this. We steadfastly refuse to ever let this happen again.
As for the Afghan people, we need the damn UN to step up to the plate and offer some sort of security force that has the power to hold these scumbag child rapist accountable. Or better yet, ship them to Gitmo, where they can check in, but they can't check out.
The first candidate that says, "Y'know what? F*** the U.N." will make me overlook a LOT of other shortcomings and probably get my vote.
We're SO worried about "appearances", that I sometimes wonder if we've castrated ourselves.
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When has America every really cared about what the rest of the world thought? We've tried to stay out of battles (now, I know there are a lot of people who've said that we purposely let ourselves be attacked to get involved with the war, yeah yeah) but, now look at us, we just go willy nilly and say "What the **** ever, we're going to invade Iraq, screw you UN!"AZhitman wrote:
Which brings us full-circle to something I said a while back:
The first candidate that says, "Y'know what? F*** the U.N." will make me overlook a LOT of other shortcomings and probably get my vote.
We're SO worried about "appearances", that I sometimes wonder if we've castrated ourselves.
At this point.. Russian rule over Afghanistan is better than Taliban, but we were so adamant about the communists and the damned Cold War that we were sure that the Arabs were going to do a better job than the commie Russians were. Turns out, we were wrong. We've been wrong a billion times. I'd like to be right, God would I like to be right just once.
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I so agree with you, these people are laughing in our faces. They commit horrible crimes against humanity and the worst they get is a stay at Guantanamo, WTF? They should all be killed, and let it be known if you are caught, you may as well kill yourself because you will be killed. I could only imagine what goes through a Taliban soldiers mind, "I'll kill as many Americans as I can and rape as many children as I can and if I get caught, I'm basically going to a hotel in Cuba. Lifes good, praise Allah". The Taliban don't give a 5hi7 about anyone or anything, and we are suppose to respect their rights? What rights!!!Soravia wrote:It also accounts for HOW the religion is interpreted. Also remember that Islam 'WAS' not the only religion there. They killed off a lot of Buddhist and Christians in that country.
Most of the Afghan people support teaching girls and women's right. It's the Arab soilders and their thugs who enjoy raping and murdering little girls, doing it all in the name of their god.
What should be is that since Afghan is NOT United States of America, we should start a campaign of terror back on the Taliban. All Taliban does is sell opium, rape and murder. Afghan people would give them no support if it was not for opium money. Give the Afghan people something to do other than opium trade and have the Taliban killed off brutally. If any of them are captured or surrendered, kill them off in public execution. This way most Taliban will go back to their own Arab nations.Terror tactics liked this worked great for the likes of Iran government and many, it will work in Afghan too. No one will complain about executing rapist and murderers. Putting them in jail will only have them come back later, like that jail break for example.
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Marenta wrote: Turns out, we were wrong. We've been wrong a billion times. I'd like to be right, God would I like to be right just once.
That is worthy of being inscribed on a golden plate and placed on top of an alter. And everyone who advocates the US sending troops anywhere must first go to that alter and seek wisdom.