Im thinkin 350 small block ...go ahead hate on me now .

[le_ryan]

Ive been doing ALOT of research on the 350 small block, the early 70s late 60s models, would be the easiest from what i read .Im partnered with my cousin (hard core chevy guy) on this track S13 we have (wich is turbo'd now) as soon as it blows he has a hopped up 350 making close to 450hp with a slap stick shifter stage 3 transmission that he is donating for it .SO, if all goes well, im gonna rebuild a 350 for my street car with enough mods to bump it to 350hp and 400ish tq, so what im getting at is, has anyone els had any experience with a swap of this kind ?

It should be fairly easy to get to 360hp with heads, intake, exhaust, and a carb., maybe cams, but i dunno yet. The actual swap seems like a cake walk, all but the custom mounts and drive-shaft .Just unbolt - pull - clean - drop - mount - yadda yadda .

so if you have any experience with this swap or a similar type deal, post up with some advise that you may have .

[Razi]

Sounds pretty cool.As long as it keeps your car sexy.

[Mr.Spag240SX]

No experience with this kinda of swap...

but DAYUM! i love this idea. good luck, and post up as you progress!

[le_ryan]

No experience with this kinda of swap...

but DAYUM! i love this idea. good luck, and post up as you progress!

you guys know im good for keeping you informed .

The cheapest block ive found so far is $200. perfect for a rebuild. But im gonna keep looking until i find an engine and 5spd transmission combo.

[redtop91]

I'd for one worship the ground you walk on. The Chevy small block is sooooo very badass. Brian (WDRacing) was contemplating this very swap. Shoot him an email and I'm sure he'll fill you in on his crazy plans...

[le_ryan]

thanx redtop, Ill hit him up.

This type of swap just seems so much easier and cheaper than any other swap that i have ever heard of.Think about it , its carburated, so no wiring but the starter and ignition ... you can start the damn thing sitting on the ground with a hose in a bucket of fuel .. after-market parts are ridiculously available in almost EVERY performance catalog and the engines are everywhere .I just dont see any reason not to do it .

[Cameron]

uhh ohh, hope the street car passes emissions being carbed and all, or maybe you dont have emissions?

[le_ryan]

Ive been lookin into that too, apparently you can get a 350 to pass emisions ..but i also heard in illinois, 95 and under will no longer have emisions..,.

[Cameron]

lucky you, down here in GA its 83 damn i cant wait til it becomes 85 or 86 so i can buy me a Hachi Roku and drop in that carbed no emission friendly 4AG lol i had a chance to get one with a track modded 4AG but i needed it to pass emissions for a Daily driver lol but LUCKY YOU!

[USsil80]

and the sad part is you could probbly rebuild that chevy 350 for less than that of a sr... good luck with it..

[bone_stock_240]

You may as well marry the gas station attendant. You will be seeing him more than anyone else in your life.

[Cameron]

hahah , bonestock your good at setting quotes for sigs lol

[le_ryan]

You may as well marry the gas station attendant. You will be seeing him more than anyone else in your life.

I AM !!

I met her when she worked at Shell !

[le_ryan]

and the sad part is you could probbly rebuild that chevy 350 for less than that of a sr... good luck with it..

If i play it right , im lookin at no more than $2500 for 350hp/400tq with the rebuild, peformance parts, and the engine/transmission. all together .

[bone_stock_240]

I AM !!

I met her when she worked at Shell !

Way to make my joke truthful, and therefore not funny anymore. Turd.

But seriously do it. Ease of swap will be insane compared to all these new engines with their technological gizmos that try and preserve the environment for future generations. I am just kidding. My stock KA pretty much shoots raw gasoline out of the tailpipe. I need to start trouble shooting that.

[S13Teddy]

Dude you should do it!

[le_ryan]

Dude you should do it!

oh its a done deal, im going to do it, im gathering all my info now, i should have the block and transmission by august .. My Bday, im gonna talk my uncle into sparing one of his many 350's, then the rebuild begins, im lookin at the finished product by next may. yeah thats far away, but thats how its gonna work for me..

[S13Teddy]

Take your time. No need to rush that kinda stuff.

[eazye2000]

Props to you bro..

I'm getting a 95 S14 from a guy who is getting stationed in England in the next few months. It's a base model, 4 lug and it's ugly. So I'm gonna tube frame it and small block it myself. I'll keep this thread saved, and I'll swap some ideas with you if you want! AIM: EazyE4You

[le_ryan]

heck yes, ill take all the info i can get, ill hit you up on aim some time.

[skatermatt180]

I know that 350 chevy engines bolt right into a 240z, Ive seen it done, very popular swap. I was going to put an l28 in my 240sx and I needed to get the r32 crossmember just like an rb swap. I put 2 and 2 together and i think you need that crossmember for it to bolt right in.

thats just my lousy 2 cents.

[OutToWinPAHC]

They do not bolt right up...... You need to build a custom engine crossmember, and you would have to convert the oil system to a front sump.. I have a small block 400 on my engine stand I was going to use in my 240, but I ended up getting a LS6, its a bit of an easier swap using a LSX engine. The reason for this is because all you need is a GTO oil pan, and pick up and its now a front sump motor. And you can fab the stock crossmember with the proper mounts.

[VirginiaPS13]

Are you going to use an iron block 350? how much more do they weigh compared to an aluminum block, and do you think it will affect the handeling any or are you using it for drag? I think this is a pretty bad@$$ swap..I mean i like the LS1 but you cant beat the sound of a nice kleen carb. small block, especially for a straight line. I saw one (I think it was a silver S13 hatch) on streetfire.net it had a 406 and some weld draglites on it..BAD@SS let us know how it goes

[le_ryan]

im just building it for street/show use, just to heve the power when i want it, and show it off a bit.I have my uncle to help with the custom mounts and welding when needed, but thanx for the tip on the front sump.

[le_ryan]

Ive also been doing some research on the ford 302, which seems to be a better choice of the two ..

[the_momo]

i have a 4 bolt main sbc in my s13.carbd no less

these are the main contenders i had to deal with1. oil pan. you can modify it to be fromt sump, or like i did and make it fit behind the steering rack. (youll have to make the sump deeper and push it further back...im going to do a dry sump eventually)

2. engine mounts. you can make mounts to fit onto the stockers, but i just make a truss spanning from the frame rails and thusly simpler and imho much stronger

3. trans tunnel. you need a large hammer or a sawzall. i cut mine out and put new sheetmetal in. made installation much easier having access to the backside of the trans to guide it in.

use blockhugger headers, they fit with minimal mods, or make your own, but that was too much work for what it was worth.

when i get out to my garage ill take some pics for reference if you want.

the wiring is also....very simple. i think theres 5 wires total.

oh and one more thing, if you use a auto trans(i have a th350) youll have to contend with th diff gearing being way too high. im going to a 5 speed so i can have some actual useable gear. or find a trans with an overdrive.

good luck and if you need some guidance or anything hit me up [email protected] id be more than happy to do whatever i can.

[le_ryan]

hey thanx momo, yeah if you dont mind posting a few pics, that would be nice, ive only been able to find a few of your pics, and very few other carbd swap pics.

[WDRacing]

Sorry I've been away...work has me doing 12's and I start at 0430.

The SBC has been done several times, Chris aka Aries has an LT1 in his S14. I haven't seen or talked to him in quite sometime though. He used to be a mod here.

Another option is the LQ series, which is an iron block LSx, same everything but came in the pickups. This can usually be had for quite a bit less then the LSx series and the oil pan mod will work.

If you want cheap ole chevy power, fabbing a new oil pan isn't really that hard. Especially if you use the GTO pan as an example. Then a simple notch in the crossmember hooks you right up. Or mount the motor higher in the bay and the not any CM work.

If I follow through with the SBC series, I'll get a older Caprice police edition, they came with the LT1. Then snatch a 383 stroker kit from Summit $1200, add a couple of turbo's and be sitting at a totally streetable/reliable 700WHP.

WD

[le_ryan]

cool, that sure sounds tasty, i love how easy it is to make power with these engines.ive been reading a few of your posts aswell, WD, this is good info keep it coming. Thanx

[Basic1]

I too am doing this swap. I honestly can't justify the cost of purchasing an LSx motor that is essentially the same kind of motor as it predecessors in aluminum casting. Weight savings? Not worth it dollar-for-dollar, and definitely not a significant difference between the iron and aluminum blocks weight-wise. I'll be using a 5-speed for my transmission in this project. I'll post pictures as the project progresses.

Donor motor is from a 1978 chevy truck with 4-bolt main. Cylinder heads have never been taken off the motor, and still has the stock iron intake manifold on it as well (the reason I mention that is because I'm happy no haphazard garage mechanic has opened this motor up trying to be a hero, i.e. unmolested).

I figure power will be somewhere in the range of 300-350 with modifications planned for it. Once EFI conversion and forced induction come into play I'll have consider new heads, pistons, etc.

I've been reading NiCO forums for years and it's good to see some enthusiasts willing to think outside the box. Get pics up soon of the motor and car in its current state (not pretty).