im considering buying a 1993 SER turbo - your opinions?

[fueler]

Do you guys think this is worth $4500?

Time for a change so The Ghost is up for sale. I have put my heart into this car over the last two years, and I daily drive this car and have never been stranded.$4850No RustGeneral:1993 Sentra Se-RUSDM SR20 DE-T163,000 Miles

Exterior:Lexus Graphite Gray Pearl (painted 1/08)Smoked Tsuru Front/Rear6000k HID16" Rota Grid'sKumo Ecsta AST (2 brand new, 2 in excellent shape)

Trans:Rebuilt 2/08 by Nissan Motorsports head engineer, shifts with no issues.ACT PP installed 2/082000SE disc installed 2/08

Suspension:KYB AGX installed 6/07Road Magnets installed 6/07New axels installed 3/08

Performance:Calum ECUSAFCIIW10 or W11 (can’t remember) T25 on 5lbs (installed 11/07)

THE GOOD PICTURES







The SO SO PICTURES

[screwinitupagain]

Holy Christ Adam the Lexus Graphite Gray Pearl & 16" Rota Grid's on that bad boy looks nasty!

[fueler]

mean lookin little sentra huh? those HP numbers are quite unimpressive but im sure its still quick and handles like its on rails

[RED_DET]

Those numbers are right in line with what a stock turbo motor should make. 12-15lbs on the T25 and he will be around 220-230. Slap a gtir t28 on there or a disco potato and make 280 or more. It has a nice sleeper look to it, which I like. I say go for it, price is right for sure. Even if you had to replace the motor down the road, you can get an avenir for 800 bones all day long.

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Slap a gtir t28 on there or a disco potato and make 280 or more. It has a nice sleeper look to it, which I like. I say go for it, price is right for sure. Even if you had to replace the motor down the road, you can get an avenir for 800 bones all day long.

JESUS H. CHRIST, this is the cat I need to be talkin' to about the wife's car

[nametakennow]

I say it can't hurt to try to knock him down a bit, but that isn't bad at all. Note that the W11 turbo is different (ball-bearing) than the W10, so I'd think he would know, but no big deal.

I would replace the piping when I got it though, what little that can be seen in those pics looks beat. I'd also recirc the BOV (assuming that pic is accurate).

Anyway, get on it!

[RED_DET]

JESUS H. CHRIST, this is the cat I need to be talkin' to about the wife's car

Ask away, my 280whp sentra sits in the garage awaiting its disco potato and divorced internal wastegate setup.

[RED_DET]

It looks like that is a blow thru setup, since the bov is on the hotside piping.

[ishkabibble]

That's a pretty nice looking Sentra and it looks like it wasn't beat on. But based on the red paint door jambs and slight riceyness overall look, I would talk him down quite a bit. I've seen properly sorted 300hp track cars go for around $5k, and that car has a long way to go to reach that status.

[nametakennow]

It looks like that is a blow thru setup, since the bov is on the hotside piping.

Ahh, yeah, looking at it again, that makes sense.

Ish, what "overall ricey look" are you talking about? The interior is wrong, but the exterior is clean as Hell.

[ishkabibble]

I said slight. I like the exterior color a lot.

What I don't like: HIDs, red door jambs, aftermarket gauges, poorly painted tails, Tsuru instead of Sunny front, odd shift boot, amber on the front lights, 16" wheels. Fix those things, and the car would be jaw-dropping.

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Quote »What I don't like: HIDs, red door jambs, aftermarket gauges, poorly painted tails, Tsuru instead of Sunny front, odd shift boot, amber on the front lights, 16" wheels. [/quote]I agree about the door jams & engine bay but whats wrong with 16" wheels or the Tsuru lights/grill? Just curious man, cause I'm more of an offroad guy so the import racer thing is new to me, but it looks pretty damn cool from here...

[sr20demon]

i like the no spoiler look and the paint. open the exhaust a little with just dp. why is it only running on 5lbs of boost?

[ishkabibble]

whats wrong with 16" wheels or the Tsuru lights/grill? Just curious man, cause I'm more of an offroad guy so the import racer thing is new to me, but it looks pretty damn cool from here...

Don't get me wrong, it is a pretty cool car. I'd rather drive a B13 than most other cars, and this is a nice B13.

16" wheels don't function well for B13s. A larger wheel means more unsprung wheel weight, tire weight, and rotational inertia. You need to be putting down huge power to really justify 16" on a B13 Sentra.

As for the front end, I prefer the stockish lights, Sunny 4 fog front, Sunny grille. The Tsuru stuff looks cheap IMO.

Sunny bumper:

Sunny grille:

[fueler]

tsuru definitely looks way better.

[screwinitupagain]

16" wheels don't function well for B13s. A larger wheel means more unsprung wheel weight, tire weight, and rotational inertia.

I was under the impression that as long as you can keep the over-all diameter (tire & wheel) about the same as stock then you are good. No?..

[fueler]

I was under the impression that as long as you can keep the over-all diameter (tire & wheel) about the same as stock then you are good. No?..

what he is talkin about is weight, there was a great article in grassroots many years ago that did very detailed tests, Actually when comparing weights, a 15" rim with larger tire will weigh less than a 16 or 17 with a smaller tire, if they all have the same overall diameter. Like babble says, it has something to do with unspring weight (the extra weight u get when the wheel spins)

BUT what babble didnt mention is that on compact cars, the 16" and 17" rims handle better around corners than the smaller 14's or 15's resulting in faster lap times plus its all in the eyes of the beholder. fukin, u r used to 31's or 32's on a pathfinder, thats like slappin 22's on a sentra, 16's will feel fast as hell!

[ishkabibble]

I was under the impression that as long as you can keep the over-all diameter (tire & wheel) about the same as stock then you are good. No?..

It's functional, but it still weighs more, and the weight is pushed out to the outer part of the wheel/tire, increasing rotational inertia. 949 Racing or Kosei K1 15" wheels are about 12 lbs each. Let's say 16" Grids weigh about 6 lbs more per wheel/tire. That's 24 lbs of additional unsprung weight, which is roughly equivalent to carrying 240 lbs inside of your car. It makes a big difference in a small-displacement, light car like the Sentra.

[ishkabibble]

BUT what babble didnt mention is that on compact cars, the 16" and 17" rims handle better around corners than the smaller 14's or 15's resulting in faster lap times

I didn't mention it because it's not true for B13s.

[fueler]

u havent ever been to any racing events now have you??

[ishkabibble]

yes, and I've owned 4 B13s and have been involved in the B13 scene for 8 years. SCCA racers run 13 to 15" wheels on B13s; the best wheel for the street is 15 x 7.5 +35.

[screwinitupagain]

u havent ever been to any racing events now have you??

yes, and I've owned 4 B13s and have been involved in the B13 scene for 8 years. SCCA racers run 13 to 15" wheels on B13s; the best wheel for the street is 15 x 7.5 +35.

Uh oh, pissing contest!

[ishkabibble]

more like IHBT by someone who doesn't know what unsprung weight is.

[screwinitupagain]

Anyway!... getting back to what we were talking about, if I don't plan on "racing" it, would the 16's be that big of a deal? Like I said I'm not a pro nor am I going to try to be, I just want to put a little getty-up in the wife's ride while making it look respectable.

[ishkabibble]

Not a huge deal, just try to stay away from the really heavy wheel models (some are around 23 lbs without tire).

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Alright another question while we are on here, I saw the RED_DET has a Nissan Sentra SE-R which means it was turbo-ed from the factory but what is a Nissan Sentra NX like Ish has? Is there a difference in suspension too or are all of the suspensions interchangable for the SE, SE-R & NX?

RED_DT or Ish or anyone else who can shed a little bit of light for me would be super f*ckin cool! Thanks.

[fueler]

a Nissan Sentra SE-R which means it was turbo-ed from the factory

There has never been a factory turbocharged sentra....

But the SR20DE in the SE-R B13's make it a popular candidate for the SR20DET...

[screwinitupagain]

maybe thats what I was thinking of then.

[nismo4life11]

the b13 se and the se-r are the same platforms with different engines and diferent suspension i think all the suspension and cosmetic parts are all interchangable. Kinda like how a 01 se can except alot of the parts from 02-06 se-r.

[ishkabibble]

The NX2000 is basically a Sentra SE-R with different body, available t-tops, bigger wheels and tires, bigger brakes. There is an NX1600 which is like the lower model Sentras.

The SE is a 1.6. It's closer to the base model Sentras than it is to the SE-R.

Suspension differences are not significant. Everyone runs Hyperco Gen II or Road Magnet springs on KYB AGX or custom Koni struts, or the stock springs on KYB GR-2 struts.