Im at a crossroads....help me decide..

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TOPSECRT88
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My plan was to originally get the AMS/Turbo240 kit for my KA. I have been waiting forever. I know the AMS kit will be superior to anything else on the market. But i am tired of having a slow car that looks imo, good. I want to be turbo'd NOW. I know most people on NICO aren't too fond of the GReddy kit. But personally i think it looks like a good deal. I was thinking about running that kit w/ GReddy Profec E-01, GReddy 24V FMIC, Tial BOV and wastegate, and Tomei fuel pump. My goal is around 300hp. Hopefully it can be accomplished. I don't want something w/ crazy HP for now. I want something i can have fun with and learn with. The car wont be raced, even if it is, it will be raced lightly. The car will mostly be a car just to cruise w/, take to shows, and like i said to just learn with.

I have heard of issues of "boost creep" on the GReddy kit also. Is that correct? Could i just run a different manifold to eliminate that?

Also is the GReddy kit upgradable? My final goal is 400whp, i know i need new bottom end and injectors. But will the 20G and the rest of the stuff i mentioned hold up?

Basically i want to know if i should wait for AMS for who knows how long, or go w/ the GReddy stuff i mentioned. I know AMS does good work second to none. But I don't know if i can wait any longer!
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240DRFT
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ive talked with this guy who had it and liked it and said it was nice. but personally id rather piece together my own setup, or talk to ams and see how long the wait is.

TOPSECRT88
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^^ya, i was thinking about that. I am going to AMS later this month w/ a friend who is getting his Evolution tuned. I will see what the wait ti like them. I can wait another 1-2 months....but if they're thinking 6 +. I think ill roll w/ the Greddy. Anymore input?

TheOne
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IAP kit

http://www.import-autoperforma....html

240DRFT
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3600 looks kinda pricey for whats pictured there.

KATwo40
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The 20G probably won't reach 400whp.

Piece together your own kit so you can get EXACTLY what you want.

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I like the Greddy kit. It's a nice base level kit. Think of it as the equipment that Nissan should have put on the car. According to all the threads I have read and some articles and talking to owners it's a good start. I like it because it pretty much covers everything, except the intercooler, but that is no big deal at all. The tuned ECU and the injectors and stuff like that are what sells me. It really is just bolt in and go (from what I understand). I am having lots of trouble deciding on what to do. I think I could piece one together for less, but at the same time most of the KA's then end up blown or with problems are from people who have pieced together their kits. I'm not saying it's not possible, in fact some of the more successful KA-T are homemade. But for the most part I think an engineered kit is the way to go, and the Greddy kit is very attractive because of what it includes. Post up here what you decide to do. I am very interested.

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240DRFT wrote:3600 looks kinda pricey for whats pictured there.
Look at the top of the page. We get a NICO special. Man ole man, I am glad I got my kit when they first had the NICO special. $2549.00

TOPSECRT88
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Thanks for all the ideas guys, i really appreciate it! I am now considering the IAP kit also. But i still think i will be going with the GReddy kit if AMS doesn't release soon. With the GReddy kit i know i wouldn't be beating Z06s. I am fine with that. Car will basically be a show car/look good. But i would still like to have something under the hood just to balence the car out. And i think the GReddy kit would do a fine job.

Like I said, just something to have fun with!

EDIT: Also i am down with peiceing together my own kit. But i could do a better job if I had some help. If anyone with KA-T experience/knowledge has any ideas let me know. I would prefer someone to help me that has had successful setups in the past and really know what they're talking about (Structure240sx, etc..). If your interested give me an IM @ ILikeMyS14

And to go in a completely different direction, what do you guys think of TOPHAT?

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Yup the IAP kit is a solid kit with all new parts. If you need advice in KA-T building give me an IM. Florida240sx

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What is the price for NICO Members on the IAP kit? Didn't see anything about it.

1WheelWonder
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I'd personally wait on the Ams kit, if I hadn't already had a pieced together kit that's what I would have done. I have been dealing with Ams/Turbo240 alot lately trying to get my Engine built and running again and have to say they are excellent, makes me regret ever buying from anyone else.

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Seriously, the AMS turbo kit is going to be a GT35r turbo, Groundzero manifold, tial 38mm wastegate, SR downpipe ( msot likely will be a bottom mount setup ), and a precision intercooler setup. ALso, all will probably be coated with heat paint. No idea what your waiting for.

EDIT: I believe the NICO price for IAP kit is $3199.

TOPSECRT88
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hmmm..thanks GEO. It would probobly be cheaper if i did it this way also. Instead of buying the kit from AMS. I think i will seriously look further into that setup option.

EDIT: I wasn't aware that the AMS kit would use the GroundZero turbo mani.

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GEO
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I am not a 100%, but they will probably make their "own" copied off the groundzero manifold.. ( Probably the best on the market next to full-race )..

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After piecing together my own kit, I would have rather just gotten the IAP kit. THere are some many little parts and bull**** you have to get to properly install one of these things that you might as well just buy a kit and save yourself a ton of time searching and scratching your head. It depends how much your time is worth but judging from your car (looks nice) I'd guess it's worth something.

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Man those Do-Luck wheels are SICK, I have a white SE and yours makes me think a change could be good! Anyway, I have the Greddy Turbo kit and the TD06-20G is rated up to 460hp. The e-manage is locked on the 370cc injectors and Greddy says that is all it can do, so think Jim Wolf or Ultimate E-manage to upgrade injectors. I believe Turbonetics kit looks more complete than my Greddy but Trust has a history with Nissan so I am in for a dime. Have you looked at Blitz? My biggest decision is the KA build-up, 9:1 vs 8:5, forged rods or shot peened old faithfuls. I did find out we can use CA18 valve springs and like you I am going with the Tomei plug and play fuel pump assembly. If I can get 315 or so hp at the flywheel, that should be enough grunt to throw down with the Evo's and Subies' terrorizing the byways. If the AMS advantage is a ball bearing turbo, look deeper, after all, its the support hardware that's going to make it rock!

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If you really cant wait and want to say you sorta have an AMS kit they do some thing call "Professional Advice on Future Modifications" So you can ask them to help you with the Greddy kit or piece together your own turbo kit. If you really want the AMS kit and you think you mite be kicking yourself in the nads for not buying it then wait, I'd save/ put some money aside for the new kit and have the cash once it comes out and while waiting you said "show car" so work on other mods, as in exterior, interior and suspension. Keep us updated and hope your happy with what ever you choose.

TOPSECRT88
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hmmm....thanks for all the compliments and advice so far. Flordia240sx i think convinced me to go IAP. I was thinking IAP kit, 550 Deatschwerks injectors, SAFC-II, Z32 MAF, Enthalapy ECU tune, etc... Hopefully that will get me in the 300-320hp range. After the major parts are installed, there would be small things that id still want to add (turbo cams, pullys, etc). Any ideas/suggestions on the IAP kit/ list i just mentioned?

Thanks,Chase

P.S. As for the Do-Lucks, i love em'! I thought they'd be perfect to make my car stand out from all the others. Im the only one i know of to put them onto a 240!

j-z
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have you considered the jgs starter kit? i can comment on their quality and its very good. the log mani will allow for fast spool on a street driven car and not to mention be bullet proof as well. the down pipe is a nice piece as well that will bolt to any sr dp. i wouldnt go with their intercooler it though as its real pricey. i went with ebay fmic and universal piping kit for a grand total of 300 shipped. pick whatever bov you want, walbro pump, enthalpy tune, and deatschwerks 555s and youre good to go. i did all of that without the enthalpy ecu for $2100. i went with a turbo i bought from someone off of here that was a reman garrett, so basically brand new. also bought a 38mm tial from someone local, so i ordered the jgs starter kit without those two items and saved more than 300. price also includes the stainless 3'' sr downpipe i bought new as well and hks racing bov. im sure youve seen the pics of my setup and how clean it was. with the jgs mani it will hold up through a nuclear explosion. just giving you more options and how cheap thigns can really be done if you source out the right parts.


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