Im About to Buy a VERT.....

[Cezar718]

im buying a vert this week 121k on the dash in decent shape.... heres the problem.... it has the timing chain guide noises and two cylinders are dead.... im pretty sure its the injectors though.... invest or no? ive been looking for a step by step with pics to remove the guides....

[Piper]

NOOO dont get it!! its a horrible car, and will empty your wallet and ruin your life. You should give it to me!!!



Depends on how much that you can pick it up for. With dead cylinders, it could be anything and you could get in way deeper than you expect. but it could be easy like cap and rotor. never know. its best guess with these guys.

as for the timing chain guide noise, thats easy to fix. its all up to the buyer and how much he/she wants to dump into it. id have to see pics of the body and frame rails to see if its worth it. but id say anything under 500 is good for a vert, unless you have rust everywhere and the top is hit.

[Cezar718]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3...76842/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3...76816/

[Piper]

How much does he want 4 it?

[Cezar718]

SHE wants less than 500.... lightly used too....

[Eikon]

It's easily worth $500. Buy it!

[Piper]

Wow she? woot!! old lady? i just ran across an old lady with a vert at my girls school. trying to talk her into selling it to me.

o yeah about your vert there,.... take it. thats a steal. and even if the engine is shot and its a junk car.....check the frame rails and usualy s13 rust spots first....its worth that. if you have to part it you can get more than your money back. but id say do it. good deal, as long as not a ton of rust!!

[Cezar718]

lol wrong again my friend... 19 yr old girl... like i said the injectors started going out and and everytime she stopped the car would cut off... so it sat there for like 5 months....

[94_240sx]

Get it. Totally worth it. Two dead cylinders are most likely injectors and they are easy to replace.

[Cezar718]

yea we have a 1995 240sx that we are goin to take the injectors out of... i need help with the timing chain guide that needs to be taken out... any diagrams or pictures?

[Cezar718]

oh yeah forgot to mention trans was rebuilt in april 07....

[krash]

DUDE, its the perfect opportunity! It's like you could kill two birds with one stone! Get the car and get the girl all in one easy transaction! It's looking real good dude. I would definitely pay $500 for it. Too bad the trans was rebuilt, now you can't logically justify the 5spd swap

[Piper]

See like i said, buy it. Thats a great price and a good car. Bet of luck and take pics when you get it!!

[TonyStarks29]

for 500!? wow thats a total steal even if it didnt come with a engine/trans... id totally pay more then 500 for a vert shell

[johnny butt]

you better of bought this already!

p.s. is she cute? (the girl...)

[justclay]

This sounds like a pretty good steal...plus a good platform for an SR swap.

I'm taking the KA out of my vert and putting in an SR in April, if you're interested in the KA we can talk. I'm in Raleigh. KA has 93k original miles and only needs a new timing belt (cheap and easy when the motor is out). Just had it checked by a mechanic and it runs well.

[Cezar718]

can somebody tell me the difference between the timing chain noises in the 240sx and a timing chain gone bad?

[mmm240]

Yes, but only once you buy the car

[johnny butt]

Yes, but only once you buy the car

lmao..

but seriously, buy that car, or give me details so I can go pick it up.

Anyways, a timing chain noise will be somewhat like a tick, or like it is hitting something (the plastic guide), that may have broke. It will be consistent usually.

A bad timing chain will bend your valves and your car will run like ****, if at all.

[Piper]

can somebody tell me the difference between the timing chain noises in the 240sx and a timing chain gone bad?

Timing chain gone bad, the car wont run, or turn over, and if it does you will hear the wonder sound of the pistons hitting the valves and bending them. kas are interference engines. what that means is that when the valves are fully compressed,"pushed down into the cylinder", they are in the direct path of the piston. so if your timing is off, or the chain is way to sloppy and the tensioners arnt doing their job, you will bend those valves cause the "pushing" is at the wrong time, and the hit.

i know thats was laymans terms, but i hope you get it!!

[mmm240]

You know I find it funny how everyone gets this symptom with KAs, but never have I heard a valve hitting a piston because of it.

I'm not saying that the KA isn't an interference engine, I just don't get it

My 22re in my Toyota is an interference engine as well and has the same symptoms that almost always lead to damaged valves.

[Piper]

its a mild interference engine, you have to be 55* or so retarded for it to hit, and that is way off, unless you have aftermarket cams, or high load springs. but in a stock engine, at stock timing, the piston has ample time to clean the valve.

[Cezar718]

::update on vert::went to go get it today and the starter went out..... so i didnt buy it yet... i have a starter for a 89 240sx (stick) and a 95 240sx (stick) will it work?

[Cezar718]

well guys... ive been putting this off for a reeeaaalllly long time... i finally purchased the 1992 convertible today.... lol... i looked in the trunk to get a jack and guess what i found.... thats right.... A LEATHER BOOT!!!!! Might Be For Sale In The Near Future Im Not sure Yet ... Ill Wait Til Tommorow to see how it looks with the top down and the boot on it as a posed to being off...

[sijia10358]

SELL ME THE BOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Piper]

See look at that. You get the car for $500 and you find a boot worth half what you paid for the car! Sell the boot and you have yourself a $300~$250 car. Never pass up a deal that good.

[Cezar718]

check the boot.... i just wiped it down....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3...01901/

[mmm240]

Does it include the bag? Throw it up in the trading thread.

[nissan_star]

lol wrong again my friend... 19 yr old girl... like i said the injectors started going out and and everytime she stopped the car would cut off... so it sat there for like 5 months....

This could possibly be a vacuum leak, which is about 30 seconds and free.

And the timing chain is easy unless you lower one is rattling too, like mine, in which case you need to remove your oil pan.

[mmm240]

And the timing chain is easy unless you lower one is rattling too, like mine, in which case you need to remove your oil pan.

If your lower guide broke and ended up in your oil pan then where is the rattling coming from?