If you had a billion dollars and a machine shop....

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S13Ka24e
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wiwalsh wrote:No that makes no sence... he would be making 99 hp at 10600 RPM, and making 2880 Ft-Lb torque at 17800.....

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Actually, because of the large RPM most equations do not apply to F1 engines. Most of the reports I have read suggest that most F1 engines produce from 830 to 900 hp at 17800 to 19000, And the MOST Ft-Lb torque i have hear is about 220. Now i do admit, i don't know what i was thinking playing the Ft-Lb torque so low, i should have put it around the 18K range.

And even using the basic

HP = (TQ * RPM) / 5250

850 = (250*17800)/5250

So that would be 250 tq at 17800.

But as i said, equations arn't that good, and I don't think that F1 engine are even producing that much tq, most are around the 200-220 mark.

I know that some people would rather have alot of tq and hp, and i do love the ka tq, but if i would have a race car, i would want revs.


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It only exists on my computer now, but it wouldn't cost anywhere near a billion.

Layout Mid engineRear driveWheelbase 98.4in2500mmTrack 59.0in2500mmLength 139.9in3554mmWidth 68.9in1750mmHeight 48.2in1226mmGround Clearance 3.94in100mmSeating Capacity 2Number ofCup Holders 0

EmptyWeight 688.6lb313kgOperatingWeight 886.6lb403kgWheelbase 98.4in2500mmWeight Distribution F:39.4%R:60.6%CGHeight 17.7449mmUnsprung/ Sprung Wt. 20%Center of Percussion 0.86Roll Moment of Inertia 8041slug.in75.7kg.m2

Engine Designation YamahaYZF-R6Type AluminumInline-4Valvetrain DOHC16-valveDisplacement 36.6cu.in599ccBore x Stroke 2.58 x 1.75 in65.5 x 44.5 mmCompressionRatio 12.4:1Horsepower 120hp @13000 RPMTorque 50.2ftlb @11500 RPMRedline 15500 RPM

Power/Weight(Empty) 0.174hp/lb0.288kW/kgPower/Weight(Laden) 0.135hp/lb0.223kW/kgAcceleration 100kph/62mph 4.4 secondsMaximumSpeed 120mph194kphMaximumGrade 23.0°

0-30 mph 1.6 sec0-60 mph 4.2 sec1/4 mile time 9.5 sec1/4 mile speed 96.4 mphMax Speed 120 mph

Front/Rear Lock-up Ratio Asphalt: 94%Gravel: 76%Max Braking Gs Asphalt: 0.77Gravel: 0.42Braking Efficiency Asphalt: 97%Gravel: 86%

SteeringRatio 17.18-17.44Turns Lock to Lock 2.65 TurnsInner TurnCircle 23.0ft7.0mOuter Turn Circle 36.7ft11.2mOff Ackerman Full Lock 8mm0.3inOff AckermanLow Angles > 10%Track Bump Steer 0.23°

SuspensionTravel 2.36in60mmWheelRates F: 66lb/inR: 145lb/inRide Frequency F: 1.92HzR: 2.30HzRoll Center Stat. Height 4.5% Track WidthRoll Center Height Range 0.4 - 8.8% Track WidthRoll Center Offset < 4.5% Track WidthWheel/SpringMotion Ratio1.377SpringRate F: 91lb/inR: 200lb/inShockConstant F: 7.27lb/ipsR: 13.08lb/ipsMax antiroll 750 in-lb/degRoll Angle at1 G Stiff 2.3° Loose 2.5°Maximum Cornering Gs Stiff 1.05 G Loose 1.0 GRelativeSlip Angles Stiff 94% Loose 77%


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wooo. A deathtrap:D. But...why don't you just buy a KIA lol.

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Rb28dett powered Dodge Caravan sleeper (awd, 1000++ hp)with a neon jesus fish on the back

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A billion dollars and a machine shop????

Well i always liked the the flying car in Back to the Future. Do you think we could convert an S15 or GTR34 to fly????? NAAAAHHH!

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OMG there actually is a Delorean in my town. Well the town across the river anyway. I don't get the allure myself, I know they are rare but they're also ugly.

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If I had that much cash, I would simply get a Ruf Edition Porsche.

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there was a delorean for sale just down the street from where i found my 240. i'm glad i resisted the urge...

in addition to my SR24 powered 180, i'd have an S15, an R32 and an R34, and maybe a few others. you guys could all come to my track for free, no helmet required. :ylsuper

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MrFox wrote:It only exists on my computer now,


this might be of intrest to you



EDIT: ok the pic isnt working for some reason, just look at the pictures here : http://www.cardomain.com/membe...age=8

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mrfox- you would use the R6 motor? why not the R1 or hayabusa motor? you can never have too much power, i.e. turbo + bored/stroked 'busa motor.

if i had a billion dollars, which i most likely won't, i would:

import an A31 Cefiro, put in an Rb26 and use it as my drift machine. also bribe all necessary government officials to make it legal.

put twin turbos on my VH45DE

mate two CA18's together to make a V8, then stick the motor in a 240SX. one or two turbos? not sure

put an FJ20 in a 240Z, also put a CA18 in a 240Z

become a registered importer and do all crash testing necessary to legalize ALL non-USDM vehicles, starting with the Nissan President (like a Q45 but longer)

buy up all the local junkyards, and then take all the cars to a huge warehouse, and carefully remove all pieces, instead of leaving cars to rust outside

PLEASE NOTE: i won't seriously do these things, even if i have a billion dollars.

edit: i also realize the bribing officials and then legalizing all non-usdm cars conflict, but i decided to leave the cefiro part in.

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wow where do i stardfinish up my KA-T project have it runnin about 300-400hpGet a GT-R 34F50F40360 modena spyderMclearen F1Laborginin (the new on, i cant spell it)Diablo CountachJag XJ20 and do a whole **** load of Show **** cause they **** us over on that car w/ the motorAston Marton VantageZ32 300zx TT Z33 350z Silvia S13Silvia kouki S14Silvia S15Silvia S12NISMO 270RNISMO 400RPorsche 911 Porsche 944Porsche 928Porsche 911 GT1BMW M3BMW M5Dodge Viper GTS coupeChevy Corvett Dodge DurangoToyot Supera TTToyota AltezzaToyota MR-2 TurboToyota Land CruiserVolkswagon Golf R32Porsche Ciane (damn i cant spell, but the SUV :D)Audi S4 (02)Audi S4 (04)69 Chevy Camerro69 Chevy Cheville69 Chevy ImpalaSubaru WRX STIMitsubishi GTOMitsubishi Lancers (one of each)Big and Fast BoatJetskisDucati 998Ducati 999Honda CBR 600RRHonda CBR 954Suzuki GSX-R 750Suzuki GSX-R 600MV Agusta F4Bugati EB-110 (i think thats it, i cant remember)Buy my own IslandMake a Road CourseHave a nice houseHAve a HUGE Garage

Damn im a Day Dreamer:rolleyes :pface :D

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A billion dollaz, and a machine shop?

1. My very own Monster Garage!!!

2. Turbo-jet powered cars, with a good set of brakes - screw the emissions. WARNING: FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY, DO NOT TAILGATE - YOU'LL GET TOASTED, INSTANTLY.

3. My very own 1 mile drag strip, for top-end runs - F-16s and Stealth Bombers welcome to compete.

4. New business: weekend drag racing. (see No. 3)

5. Hot ladies that don't understand the concept of money - AKA Mail Order Mistresses, from exotic parts of the world. :ylsuper

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:this might be of intrest to youEDIT: ok the pic isnt working for some reason, just look at the pictures here : http://www.cardomain.com/membe...age=8


Hehehe... Jspec you caught me. I actually did base the design off an older version of our school's FSAE car. It was a project for a vehicle design class, and since I already had the files, to save some time, in went the R6 and alot of the driveline bits from the SAE racecar.

Sultan: The R6 motor is a bit lighter than the R1 motor .... and there is something orgasmic about watching the tach go past 15k :D

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L33TX43RT wrote:A billion dollaz, and a machine shop?

1. My very own Monster Garage!!! Just something significant to put Lingenfelter out of business. :ylsuper

2. Turbo-jet powered cars, with a good set of brakes - screw the emissions. WARNING: FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY, DO NOT TAILGATE - YOU'LL GET TOASTED, INSTANTLY.

3. My very own 1 mile drag strip, for top-end runs - F-16s and Stealth Bombers welcome to compete.

4. New business: weekend drag racing. (see No. 3)

5. Hot ladies that don't understand the concept of money - AKA Mail Order Mistresses, from exotic parts of the world. :ylsuper


6. Gotta store the hoochies in their own little Guest house.

7. My own place - about $100M, in realty.

8. Make sure every cent is spent before I die, so the state doesn't get rich on my dead ***.

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RobDET
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Oah i forgot...

Office Space:: "I tell you what i'de do... 2 chics at the same time man"

and 0-60 is always faster than 5-60 even in the viper.

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If I have $1 BILLION, I would buy the Ex Vi Termini SkylineSkyline GT-R R32 VspecSkyline GT-R R33 VspecSkyline GT-R LMSkyline GT-R R34 VspecIISkyline GT-R Concept and then put a Twin Turbo Q45 V8 in itR390 Road Car (just like in GT3 :D)Silvia S15 Spec RSilvia S14.5 w/RB26DETA real Sil80 300ZX TT Z32Lancer Evo 3Lancer Evo 4Lancer Evo 5Lancer Evo 6Lancer Evo 7Lancer Evo 8WRX STi 22Bthe new WRX STiFerrari EnzoMcLaren F1Twin Turbo NSXSpoon S2000Spoon CivicSpoon IntegraBugatti VeyonM-Benz SLR

invest the rest in real estate. :D


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