Since plumbing you IC piping is extremely inconvenient, I may have to have the cold pipe come up from the battery location, therefore causeing the user to move the battery to the trunk and drilling a 3" hole where the battery tray is. Is this going to be a very negative thing concerning my turbo kits?
BrianIs relocating your battery for IC piping a negative in my up coming turbo kits?
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hey
here's my opinion.About 80% of the people are lazy like me and dont want to move the battery. But there are those 20% that wouldnt mind. I would say look at the F-Max intercooler piping on the cold side because in 2 pieces, it fits great!I could get pictures for you or draw out diagrams if you need it.
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While I agree with Klattr about ppl not wanting to relocate the battery, its simple to do and really doesn't take that long or cost a significant amount of money. If you have the ability and time to install a turbo kit, whats moving a battery?
Plus after some inspiration from that pic of Russ's engine bay I have all kinds of space under the hood.
Plus after some inspiration from that pic of Russ's engine bay I have all kinds of space under the hood.
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i think moving the battery for the i/c piping is a good idea. i want to do this because my current cold pipe almost sits against the radiator. i had to sell my perma-cool dual 12" fans since they wouldnt clear. also i wont be ablet o fit an aftermarket radiator in without making a new coldpipe. i think through the battery tray is a good idea. just like the sr guys having to get a slim battery or moving it for the FMIC kits.
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When I was first turboing my car I would have said that's a negative to have to remove the battery, but now I'm going to say it's not that big of a deal.
I just did mine a little while ago, and it wasn't that much of a PITA, and it allows for a considerably more direct route for the cold side pipe (it eliminates a 90 degree bend, by my calculation), puts some weight back in the rear to help with traction and weight distribution, and makes everything look a lot cleaner.
But considering you are selling kits, people who buy complete kits are not as willing to do extreme measures or "trial and error" as those who piece one together themselves, so I'd say overall it is a negative. (sorry for being so indecisive)
I just did mine a little while ago, and it wasn't that much of a PITA, and it allows for a considerably more direct route for the cold side pipe (it eliminates a 90 degree bend, by my calculation), puts some weight back in the rear to help with traction and weight distribution, and makes everything look a lot cleaner.
But considering you are selling kits, people who buy complete kits are not as willing to do extreme measures or "trial and error" as those who piece one together themselves, so I'd say overall it is a negative. (sorry for being so indecisive)
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i think since the kit would probably be a bolt on, you could definitely just include instructions if the battery relocation was needed. but IMO, the 240 already lacks in trunk space and i definitely feel for the convertible guys cuz they have half of the half a trunk it already comes with. maybe you should offer a choice to the customer. since i think u said u might be offering a choice to other parts in the kit (color of IC piping or custom things of the sort), u could offer the customer a choice in whether or not they want the battery relocated. to rig up two different cold pipes to choose from wouldnt be a bad idea. just a thought
a battery relocation is pretty serious. to keep the car track legal it is a very involved process involving mounting a saftey switch on the back of the car. that is definatley a negative to me
and FWIW you might be able to just use a smaller battery IE a miata battery or a honda goldwing battery, some of them have some high CA and CCA numbers.
and FWIW you might be able to just use a smaller battery IE a miata battery or a honda goldwing battery, some of them have some high CA and CCA numbers.
Jeez! Do realize, this is one guy that is building this whole kit. There is absolutely no reason he should waste time offering colors, for starters. Think of the feasability of it, how many colors are there? Second, making 2 cold pipes will really suck. I created my ka-t downpipe, and it's pretty straightforward. It still sucked, took a lot of time to get things to line up, and if someone told me to do it just a bit differently, I'd laugh at them. It was like 4 hours of slightly trimming and measuring, and estimating to make my fairly straight pipe hit where I wanted it to. Then I look at my FMax piping, and I think someone was smoking something when they made that pipe. But it works. Fabricating that one piece without a jig would be nearly impossible. Which is the reason for this post. WD, I will be sending out some parts to get ceramic coated, and will have about a 1 week window with no car, and no use for my fmic piping (it goes around the battery box, and up right between the battery and the fan shroud. If you know when you'll at least be able to jig up the pipes, I can let you borrow them for a bit. Email or PM me or something. This site doesn't cookie me 
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Jeff, shoot me some pictures if you have any. I can do it without moving the battery, its just alot cleaner with the piping routed through the batt tray.
Thx for the input fella's.
Joe, i had forgotton about the legality of moving the battery to the trunk. I somtimes get stuck thinking the kit is for my car only, which would be so much friggin easier...lol.
Brian
Thx for the input fella's.
Joe, i had forgotton about the legality of moving the battery to the trunk. I somtimes get stuck thinking the kit is for my car only, which would be so much friggin easier...lol.
Brian
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You have to remember that there are gonna be people with half-way decent sound systems and accessories in their car, so I wouldnt be comfortable with a tiny battery. Personally, Id rather just move it to the trunk.
What you should do is make it work both ways, same cold pipe, but just say to use a smaller battery (possibly come with the kit for extra) or just say you can relocate to the trunk (also possibly add this on for extra).
What you should do is make it work both ways, same cold pipe, but just say to use a smaller battery (possibly come with the kit for extra) or just say you can relocate to the trunk (also possibly add this on for extra).
why do you guys have such a problem with this? (exception to people with convertables) if you are going to be installing a kit then you should be able to run a few power lines to your trunk. the benefits would be a cleaner looking engine bay and cold pipe with less severe bends. id say thats worth about 30 mins of work to relocate.
TurboKA37 wrote:why do you guys have such a problem with this? (exception to people with convertables) if you are going to be installing a kit then you should be able to run a few power lines to your trunk. the benefits would be a cleaner looking engine bay and cold pipe with less severe bends. id say thats worth about 30 mins of work to relocate.
Is it really 30 mins? I thought it'd be more like 2-3hrs to do it right. By the way, think of the added weight of the turbo, piping, and ic, and then how relocating will improve your distro.
