Iap Stage One Kit reliability?

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is the BOV on the kit relativly loud?


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It is supposed to be recirculated, which should be relatively quiet... and it is the relatively new Greddy Type RS...I personally havent heard it yet, maybe some one has a sound clip?

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even recirculated bov's you can still hear

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not to go against our sponsor..but i have to say.. there are minor fitment issues. iirc with the earlier 240sx.(s13)

i would think someone could put together a "kit" for a lot cheaper than that..as i have, which put me at around the same ballpark figure of the IAP kit, but with better fuel management, ecu.. and you could see how the fitment works out, from other people's previous experiences.

just my $.02

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of course you can put together a kit cheaper. with a pre-made kit from a company you are paying for their service of putting it together for you

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Structure240sx wrote:of course you can put together a kit cheaper. with a pre-made kit from a company you are paying for their service of putting it together for you
Yup. Only fitment issue I have is need of a 2" extension. It works fine but my IC is off centered. Not that big of deal. I just installed a garage door tonight and the opening is 3 inches higher over a 16' span. That is a problem.

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The kit is def worth the money if you want something reliable.

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Structure240sx wrote:of course you can put together a kit cheaper. with a pre-made kit from a company you are paying for their service of putting it together for you
its just me, but i couldnt ever pay someone to put a bunch of pieces together that i could just as easily do with better and cheaper products.

but thats just me.

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Indeed the IAP kit is good. Leave time, sort out the bugs and make sure everything is happy...take your time!

I've put together a HUGE review, collection of pics and a few vids of my experiences with the kit here:

http://www.son240sx.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17755

They're all kind of scattered throughout the thread, but yeah, hopefully it can help a lot of people that are thinking about getting it.

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Great Write, up love the shots, very informative

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Just a question but does the downpipe included with the IAP kit bolt up to a stock exhaust - or will i need a new exhaust also?

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the IAP kit comes with a downpipe that bolts to the turbo then bolts to a megan downpipe (included) that runs to the stock exhuast

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I installed my IAP stage 1 kit on my SOHC KA at about 220k miles. it ran fine until around 242k miles then I misdiagnosed a misfire and decided to rebuild one of my spare motors I was already planning on putting in, otherwise it'd still be on and running right now.

my stock level clutch held up just fine (I had replaced it at around 210k but with just a stock unit)

some things I would encourage you to get if you get the kit would be an oil cooler, upgraded ignition coil (MSD blaster 2 can be had for 30-35$ brand new), and work toward getting bigger injectors/piggyback computer to control them. I got my oil cooler off of jegs.com for under 100$ as a complete kit. I suggest the bigger injectors because you're going to be pushing the stock injectors to their limits, even with the upgraded fuel pump that comes with the kit. The oil cooler is ESSENTIAL as you are going to be baking your oil as it passes through your turbo and you want to reduce if not eliminate oil coking as much as possible to prolong the life of your motor and turbo.

Seems like you're on the right track, kudos for doing your homework BEFORE spending your money.

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Which oil cooler are you running Import_Ant

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It is indeed a solid kit.

The turbo is WAY overkill, much nicer than any other kit comes with. It's also good for tons more power, so you don't have to upgrade it as you bump up the boost.

This kit, with an SAFC-II and a set of 370's, should give you good, solid, reliable 250rwhp for a loooong time.

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just wondering what kind of turbo they use in their kit and what HP it's good for. i wonder if they would sell me just the turbo...

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they probably would as they are still a vendor for performance parts. the turbo they used can be found on their site and i think u can specify which size back housing u want..............shoot off an email to em to get the official word though.

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I got greedt and wanted to up the boost.My mistake mad emy engine die.As soon as I get a truck to get my KA from Vero I'll be boosting again.Good kit.

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240esX wrote:Which oil cooler are you running Import_Ant
Permacool Link at Jegs.com

I got the 150hp kit with the intention of upgrading the oil cooler in the future.

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[QUOTE=Import_Ant]

Permacool Link at Jegs.com

I got the 150hp kit with the intention of upgrading the oil cooler in the future.[/QUOTE

the IAP kit is sposed to put me around 200rwhp if i got the 150hp oil cooler kit does it have to do with how much it cools or how much it flows - im just tryin to figure out if i can use the 150hp one or is it a better idea to shed the 20$ and be set for up to 250hp - also i read sum posts about thermostats to make sure you dont over cool your oil i mean i live in Indiana so it doesnt get to hot or too cold but we do have hot days.

-sorry about turning this post into a help me understand everything i need post

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Is there any cutting involved to the front bumper because I heard from like 3 people you do and don't and also has anyone use the stage 1 plus kit?

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it's all good the hp rating I believe is the flow capacity of the oil cooler in conjunction with it's ability to cool the oil. I used the 150hp kit on my car just fine so I dont see why it wouldnt work for you as well. if you dont intend to upgrade it further on down the road I'd go ahead and get one with a larger cooler now. as far as overcooling your oil, I dont think you'll have too much to worry about.

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Dude, take some advise from an old guy who's been there.

The first thing you need to do is know what you're up against.

You will need:

Another car to drive while working on the project car.

A place to store/work on the car and a good set of tools.

Time & money to complete the project PLUS unforseen problems - i.e. blow trans up, clutch, new motor, etc...

By the way, LSD upgrade, rims, tires, gauges, electronics, injectors, fuel pump...

Then you need to consider the condition of your car. I have 103,000 pampered miles and I'm leery. I also don't really care about this car lasting as this is a toy for me.

With 150,000 on my main transportation I'd defenitly be thinking re-build before I'd be thinking turbo. If I was in your shoes, I'd be thinking about practicality. Unless you meet the conditions above, this just won't be practical for you.

However, if your car is in great shape and you are dead set on adding some pep, you might consider an SR swap. Sacrilege, I know but that way you can have a newer motor with trans and everything you need.

You're still going to have the down time but you'll have a lot lessor chance of having to do it twice.

If you must stay KA, rip it out re-build and toss in a new clutch before you turbo.

Better yet, forget about the car and worry about college.

Hope this helps.

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best advice ever.

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Edub1 wrote:Better yet, forget about the car and worry about college.
4felix20 wrote:best advice ever.
I know it's fun to wrench on your ride, but I got to agree. Most people don't get a "do over" when it comes to college. So concentrate primarily on your studies and get good grades now, so can make a ton of money for the rest of your life and afford to drop tons of dough on one of the most expensive hobbies out there. Because when the time comes for finals or some huge project or assignemnt is due, the last thing you're going to need to do is troubleshoot why your motor can't keep spark or whatever.

Ok, old guy rant over.

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A guy here in houston got a IAP kit, and his manifold didnt fit good, his downpipe didnt fit the turbo they provided, or fit good going to the exhaust, the intercooler piping didnt fit good at all..

IAP gets 2 thumbs down from me

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TX - No offense, but I'm not buying that story until I hear from the customer.

Also, let's keep the comments limited to those with personal experience - That's only fair.

Thanks!

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I agree, unless you know this to be true for a fact you shouldn't knock someone's product.

Doing so is not only unfair, it can cost the vendor money and even get you sued. Not to mention the fact that this is a forum sponsor.

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The IAP kit is top knotch but since im only in high school im going to have to agree with savatoge for now - but my plans were to do it this summer if at all so i guess ill wait till then because it will all depend on how much money i make this summer...so untill then ill keep reasearchin and try to get through school.

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Medoza, it doesn't matter, it's printed on the box. So a halfway marginal parts guy can find them for you. BKR = thread, hex, and seat for a KA head (without going into specifics. 6 = heat range, KA normally uses 5 (I believe), and it gets 'cooler' when the number goes up (see before caption). E is copper. 11 - .044" gap, preset by NGK. But if your parts man demands on using a application. Try a 1999 Honda Civic SI. I know that some of the Civics use it, and it will be that one or the D series engines. Good luck!


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