i want step 1 cams...any info for me?

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josephg15
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brian crower or hks cams stage 1? i saw these two types of cams that say i dont need to change my valva train...has anyone used or using either of these cams? how are they working for you...if i get these do i need to do any extra tuning? how much horse power do you think they would add on a stock sr20? any problem i would run into if i used them? thanks again i know i have alot of questions but i just want to be sure...lol


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I know that on their website the say you dont have to change out the springs/retainers but trust me man... You really want to with that kind of lift (12.05mm) Thats pretty high. You will not like your self if you start bouncing off the rev limiter and one of your springs snap and result in piston hitting the valve and valvetrain damage. Dont take a short cut.

I hear the idle with those cams are very smooth. Idles almost like stock cams. And also heard they add about 80 RWHP or so.

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I have hks 264 step 1 cams but they have yet to be installed..I dont know about the BC step 1's but he hks ones do not need any aftermarket valvetrain parts only step 2 and above. Also no tuning is required for these cams..if you had enthalpy tune a chip for you with the new cams you would get more out of them but still none the less tuning is not needed and you will still definately feel the extra power after you install them. these cams are pretty much drop in and go no valvetrain upgrades or tuning and they should give you about 20-30 more hp if you are running the correct turbo with them. if you are on a t25 i'd go with hks 256 step 1's

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Im selling my HKS 264 Step 1's next week. $200. They will be removed from my SR this week. AIM is KB240SR.

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Correct me if im wrong but i dont think BC makes step 1's. They only make step 2 and 3. Im going to have to agree with Ilikemy240sx with the valvetrain upgrade. I would say on any cam upgrade this is necessary. This valve train upgrade is pretty cheap compared to others. I got the BC's with spring and ti retainer kit just need to install them . If you plan upgrading your turbo later on i would go with the BC kit. Also there is a sticky "Camshaft mega thread" check it out, it might help. Just my 2 cents

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Ill be getting my BC 264 cams this week. Ill be using stock valvetrain and revving to 7500rpm. Ill let everyone know if something happens.

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How much power would i get if i go with the valve spring and retainer kit + the step 2 crower cams? im kinda debating between a gtir t28 and the kit.

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if your only going to get one or the other get the gti-r t28 and upgraded fuel injectors with necessary tuning. you'll have much better gains than 264's on a t25

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T28 wont take advantage of the top end the BC cams can give. 256 cams match best with T28 turbo.

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So ill wait for the gti-r turbo with bigger injectors. Thanks guys.

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HKS 264 Step 1 Cams will probably help out alot with the T28. The cams give a boost in torque around 4krpm and dont start to die off till around 6500rpm. Seems like the perfect powerband for the T28.

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so would bc cams help out prety good also?? Cuz my future mods are, t28 turbo, 550cc injectors, bc street/strip cams w/bc valve springs and retainer, z32 maf and either a tuned ecu or reflash the ecu.

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retuned ecu and a reflashed ecu are the same thing, they are both a retuned ecu (romtune, retune, reflash) Any 264 cam will match the t28 perfectly. I am unsure of the lift of the BC cam. The lift determines whether or not you need to upgrade your valvetrain. I know the hks 264 step 1's you dont need to upgrade your valvetrain.

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The lift on the bc street/strip cams is 12.06/12.06. It also says that it can be used with stock vavlesprings, but, recommends upgraded valve springs.

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ya it can be used with stock valvetrain of course. but once you start getting tons of valve float your F'd. its just like...ya of course you can boost 25psi on 370cc injectors..but once you start leaning that b_tch out.... uh oh

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yeah i wanna make sure i don f**k anything up. do you think it would be ok to have the cams w/t25 until i get my gtir t28? im waiting for someone i know to sell it to me.

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264's on a t25 temporarily wont do any harm...may in the long run though because its over kill for the turbo..as far as performance..you'll see some gains..but it will be laggy..256 with a t25 is the best

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yeah, but i want to upgrade my turbo thats why.

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Do you guys know any shops thatll give discounts to nico members??

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DrifterProdigy85 wrote:Ill be getting my BC 264 cams this week. Ill be using stock valvetrain and revving to 7500rpm. Ill let everyone know if something happens.
whats your email? ill pick them up from you

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all of these websites give discounts if thats what you mean ----> zeroforum/145

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- s13fastbacksr....your saying i should get 256/256 hks cams step 1 for my t25...what kind of horse power would i get out of them...will it cause any kind of turbo lag...

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yes 256 would be the perfect match for the t25....unsure of exactly how much power gain you'll see but it will definately be noticeable..a good ballpark estimate IMO would be 15-20 horse..cams are a great upgrade...and yes you will have very very slight turbo lag with 256 but barely any at all...with 264's you'd have a good amount of lag

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well im going to be building my car for auto x. would having a t28 and 264 cams be the wrong set-up??

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how much hp are you looking for for auto x?

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drftsx
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250-300 hp. Im not gonna go all out on auto x, but id like to do alot of track racing. Just trying to have some fun.

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so i found some cams at projectnissan.com and i am going to be using my t25 with the set up and i was wonder what would be best. i am looking at getting the hks step 1 cams...but....i know i asked and was toldthe 256 cams would be best...so should i get the 256/256 or the 256/264...what would be the difference in performance...would the 256/264 be better...sorry for all the questions...thanks, joe

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if your sticking with the t25 I would go with 256/256 no doubt..264 on a t25 is over kill the airflow will not be as smooth and consistent...also you may want to take into consideration having the t25 rebuilt and having the compressor housing ported which will help with better air flow and match the 256 even better IMO....

.....drftsx if you want 300rwhp max then you are going to want to look at a s15 t28 or gti-r t28..probably the gti-r t28 would be best as i believe it makes 300whp max IIRC as the s15 t28 will make 280whp..I would go with a gti-r t28 and 264s which match that turbo good.

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ALright thanks for the replies. Very helpful. I will be ordering the cams and be picking up a s15 t28 this week.

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hey s13fastbacksr i sentyou an email because i saw a post youhad in january, and i was wondering if you still had those hks cams 256/256? let me know and buy them...thanks, joe


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