I thought all cars had daytime running lights...

[riceqx2]

The USA G37's don't...I guess turning on the parking lights will have to do.

[telcoman]

The USA G37's don't...I guess turning on the parking lights will have to do.

In cloudy or bad weather it is much safer to use your headlights

Telcoman

[370Z/28]

I thought DRL were just a GM thing.

Speaking of which....do you ever see a GM vehicle where all of the lights are working. WTH?

[Poyzinous]

Speaking of which....do you ever see a GM vehicle where all of the lights are working. WTH?

Aaaaaaahhh. Its funny cuz its truuuuee!!!Yeah DRL suck. I hate them. I dont hate that it makes the car more visible in the daytime and therefore safer, I hate how thousands of moronic jackasses drive around at nighttime with them thinking the rest of their lights are on. Some parts of virginia highways dont have street lights so you cant see the idiot in front of you untill you're 5 inches away and swerving into the shoulder 5 nanometers away from the guardrail with the horn blasting at the dbag who's on his cellphone driving 56mph with 20 feet of visibility in front of him and no tail lights lit up to be visible from a respectable distance..... I've repeatedly thought about writing to the DOT to make a change to all vehicles built with DRL to have a simple circuit connecting it to the car's sunload sensor and a warning light on the dash if the idiot driving doesn't manually turn on the car's actual lighting system at nighttime. It would make things better for all of us Driver's License worthy people out there.

[pfarmer]

In cloudy or bad weather it is much safer to use your headlights

Telcoman

I believe this is true anytime the car is hard to see. Some studies showed that there was little difference at other times since people tend to get used to them being on and they just blend into the background in areas where they are required.

One negative I believe is true is that they can cause you to have problems at night since there is a greater chance of having burned out lights at night.

On my other car if you put the lights in auto it will turn them on with the wipers which I believe is a good feature, one that I miss. the other thing with my Infiniti is that there just doesn't seem to be a good setting for auto, Too often they will cycle under bridges, in trees, almost like they need a timed period before they come on by themselves.

Perry

[scjconsulting]

DRLs are the law in Canada, even though I have seen cars without them.

DRLs in the United States are not required and have been a GM thing (and some others) for some time. I always felt that GM did it so they only had to do one thing for cars either in the US or Canada and also GM cars have so few features that DRLs are a advertising point.

My favorite gripe point that people think that they need DRLs only when it rains. DRLs do not turn on your back lights and that is what you really need when it rains.

I hate DRLs!

[telcoman]

DRLs are the law in Canada, even though I have seen cars without them.

DRLs in the United States are not required and have been a GM thing (and some others) for some time. I always felt that GM did it so they only had to do one thing for cars either in the US or Canada and also GM cars have so few features that DRLs are a advertising point.

My favorite gripe point that people think that they need DRLs only when it rains. DRLs do not turn on your back lights and that is what you really need when it rains.

I hate DRLs!

Here in NJ Headlights are required when wipers are in use.

On the Turnpike with traffic moving sometimes at 80, it can be difficult to see vehicles without headlights because the trucks throw up so much spraying water. Although some NJ drivers refuse to turn on headlights one can usually count on a considerable number of vehicles with New York plates. They are usually in the left lane going slower than the traffic flow and refuse to move over

DRLs in the United States are not required and have been a GM thing (and some others) for some time. I always felt that GM did it so they only had to do one thing for cars either in the US or Canada and also GM cars have so few features that DRLs are a advertising point.

GM fought antilock and 4 wheel disc brakes, and fuel injection for many years.

As soon as they did, they slapped ABS and EFI stickers on their vehicles.

Earlier this year an elderly neighbor (yes he was older than I) was using a borrowed GM vehicle (Buick) He asked me to show him where the fuel door release lever was.When I looked at the vehicle it didn't have one. You just opened the flap. No gas flap lock at all.

Cheap bastards! No wonder so few are buying GM products.

Telcoman

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjzpx_jUUA0

Check this out about America cars

DJ

[riceqx2]

Thanx for all of the interesting responses;My last 5 cars had DRLs.When BMW's DRLs are on, the rear tails are on also.

In my experience, cars with DRLs need those lights replaced more often, especially when the weather gets cold.

I've never noticed domestic (GM) cars with light problems, butI have seen too many Volvos with one brake light constantly lit...

I was just surprised that this G37 coupe does'nt have them.FWIW, I traded in my 335XI coupe for this and I love it. I'll update my profile sometime soon and post a review of both vehicles.

[370Z/28]

Awe come on guys...give America a break. They built some pretty cool cars in the 70's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

Find a nice 70' Hemi Cuda and see how much it is bringing...or a nice 454 Chevelle. One of the few fellas that I trust to work on my Camaro has a '69 Camaro with 22k original miles. He has been offered fortunes for that.

[Poyzinous]

66 to 72 were the good years. Everything that came the next 30 years since has sucked. Give me a 68 Camaro SS 4speed in killer orange with black stripes. And free gas. Dont know if I could live with single digit MPG numbers....

[370Z/28]

Agreed. '73 and it's bumper laws and smog laws ruined performance. I really never thought it would return.

My first hubby and I had a '68 Charger with a 440 6bbl. We got 6mpg. But yee haw....that car was torque on tires!

[Poyzinous]

One thing I find uber interesting is the hp measurements from back then compared to now, and how modern engines have advanced so much. Back then a 427 ss motor would be rated to 380 hp but run on a modern dyno it was only 270 in today's measures. You take todays 427 that puts out 505 hp and back then it was the equivalent to 748hp!!! On top of that, it makes more power with just a third the fuel and it idles smoothly and quietly, AND its 85% cleaner and less polluting. Thats how back then, a 3400 lb charger would run the 1/4 mile in 14.5 seconds, and a modern charger, with 400lbs more weight, 2 extra gears, and 50 "less" hp runs it in 14 flat. again, with 1/3 the fuel, 15% of its pollution, and in safe comfort. Plus those old cars had top speeds in the low 100's thanks to 4 speed trannys with only 1 gear shorter than direct drive....

[marlin29311]

I thought DRL were just a GM thing.

Speaking of which....do you ever see a GM vehicle where all of the lights are working. WTH?

This reminds me of the countless number of Fords that I see with brake lights on all the time, including during acceleration. WTF?

[370Z/28]

Oh and the brakes were horrible too. Most only had disc brakes on the front, if any at all. Big ole lead sleds with tiny little brakes, no seatbelts (if they had them we didn't use them) metal dashboards. Those cars were big and heavy and no aerodynamics. Oh well...I still loved them.

Somewhere in that time frame they went from gross to net hp. Don't remember the exact year.

[pfarmer]

66 to 72 were the good years. Everything that came the next 30 years since has sucked. Give me a 68 Camaro SS 4speed in killer orange with black stripes. And free gas. Dont know if I could live with single digit MPG numbers....

Personally I believe 67-70. 67 was the year of better brakes. If we go for style then I would go back much further than that.

Perry

[pfarmer]

Oh and the brakes were horrible too. Most only had disc brakes on the front, if any at all. Big ole lead sleds with tiny little brakes, no seatbelts (if they had them we didn't use them) metal dashboards. Those cars were big and heavy and no aerodynamics. Oh well...I still loved them.

Somewhere in that time frame they went from gross to net hp. Don't remember the exact year.

My 64 Parklane Convertible with a 67 410 weighs in at about 400 lbs. more than my 2008 XS. We are not exactly light.

Perry

[370Z/28]

That is true. Gosh...just think how much of that weight is just electronics. The old cars had a good ole AM radio with front speakers only.

[G37 Man]

Here in NJ Headlights are required when wipers are in use.

On the Turnpike with traffic moving sometimes at 80, it can be difficult to see vehicles without headlights because the trucks throw up so much spraying water. Although some NJ drivers refuse to turn on headlights one can usually count on a considerable number of vehicles with New York plates. They are usually in the left lane going slower than the traffic flow and refuse to move over

GM fought antilock and 4 wheel disc brakes, and fuel injection for many years.

As soon as they did, they slapped ABS and EFI stickers on their vehicles.

Earlier this year an elderly neighbor (yes he was older than I) was using a borrowed GM vehicle (Buick) He asked me to show him where the fuel door release lever was.When I looked at the vehicle it didn't have one. You just opened the flap. No gas flap lock at all.

Careful the G37 does not have a fuel door release inside the car,it opens with a push when the car is off and the remote starter is close by!

Cheap bastards! No wonder so few are buying GM products.

Telcoman

[pfarmer]

That is true. Gosh...just think how much of that weight is just electronics. The old cars had a good ole AM radio with front speakers only.

And keep in mind that my 64 is a convertible which is heavier than a sedan, hardtop, or post of the same year. It is also extremely rare.

Perry

[pfarmer]

That is true. Gosh...just think how much of that weight is just electronics. The old cars had a good ole AM radio with front speakers only.

Actually with front speaker (dash) and rear speaker (between the rear seat backs).

Perry

[smockers83]

If you thought all US cars had DRLs, how long have you been driving in the US for? Tons of cars don't DRLs. A lot of GMs don't have DRLs either.