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reaper2022 wrote:
The thing I don't like about Kawis is you can't let maintenance slide at all; they're like Ducs. This is what happens when you're hard on a zx6r and you forget to change the fork seals:

Personally, I'd recommend a CBR600 F4i. Fuel injected, 600cc, and very tame under 7k rpm, not to mention it's a fairly forgiving bike for a 600. I learned to ride on an '01 F4i... Man, I miss that bike. I've ridden once since I sold the thing, and that wasn't the best experience of my life... I assumed because the owner had just gotten done riding for 20 minutes the rear was warmed up, so I rode it hard. Turns out the tire was ice cold and came right out when I dipped it down for a turn. Ground down a slider, the end of the brake lever, and the can. Of course, I didn't have my gear with me (well, I used his helmet at least. And I made d**m sure it didn't touch the ground when I landed. I didn't feel like replacing a $700 Arai) at the time (wasn't expecting to ride given the fact that I didn't have a bike), and as it turns out, a hoodie's sleeves will roll up on you as you're sliding along the ground at 35mph (side note: bikes make really cool sparks when they lowside).

Basically, this is why you wear a good leather jacket:

I now have a dent in my elbow and one wrist, where even some of the fat was taken off. My arm still has rash scar (and probably always will), and that was only at 35mph. If you've never experienced road rash (serious rash. Not the "I fell off my bicycle at 2mph and got a boo-boo" rash), it's fun. Burns like hell, especially when you scrub it to get the asphalt out of it, leaks plasma like a sieve, and looks like bacon when it finally starts to scab over 2 weeks after you get it. The good side? Chicks dig scars and if you act like it doesn't hurt (which it f**king does lol), you look like a bada**
thats the dumbest f***ing post Ive ever read...cold tire pfffft yeah right

learn to ride before trying to give others advise...and the comment about Kawasakis is absolutely laughable

Ha


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Rich!!!

What happend? The Busa I mean.

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it went sooooo slow


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I have a spare 03 CBR 600RR frame that I'm willing to sell. Clean title and all that.

Cannot second enough what the others have said about good gear. Some things (parachute, scuba gear, motorcycle gear) don't cheap out. Buy good quality equipment. Everyone has their own opinions on what counts as good, but I have always been a big fan of AGV for helmets (XR-2 currently) and Alpinestars for jackets, boots, gloves, etc.

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Mr1der wrote:same can be said for cars...or planes.

awareness is your friend.
Not really. Statistically speaking, you have a better chance of not dying when you get in your car than getting on a motorcycle.


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thats cause of the limited number of motos to autos...

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Self-taught riders are the second most dangerous type of rider on the road, statistically.

Get into an MSF course and wear gear or I'll mock you for being a squid forever.

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squidly-do-right

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Yeah man thats all it takes it one ride and your hooked. If your going to buy, buy a v-twin. I've riddien inline liter bikes and 600 and once i got my v-twin rocket i will never go back. i can tell that i will never sell my RC51. I will buy new bikes but they are going to be twins. A little food for thought. The bike i ride.



Or You can get this

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Or this is good alternative



I love the new v-twin superbikes. They are ridiculous. Hearing those motors at 10,000 rpm is unreal. The inline might have better acceleration but these are fast enough and the low and mid range torque awesome.

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RC51 ftmfw...

I had an RC racebike for season

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Rex's post is pretty dead on. To reiterate -

NEVER think a car's driver sees you unless you visually make eye contact through mirrors or otherwise. In fact most of the time people dont see you at all, KNOW THIS. Do little things to try to draw attention to yourself and be noticed. There are 3 motorcycle lanes in a single lane. Center, right, and left. Use these often for a myriad of reasons, all depends on your driving situation.

EVERY CAR/OBJECT/ROAD HAZARD IS POTENTIAL DEATH BE IT MOBILE OR NON. Seriously, ride with that in your head and statistically speaking you should be alright.

Wearing gear is really, really smart. At the very least wear a spined(armor like) padded jacket and some strong, snug fitting shoes with jeans. If you go down with sneakers on, your feet are usually going to get effed up.

If you dont panic in a 'wreck' situation, you can usually avoid it or minimize personal injury. There are a few tricks, and i suppose you really cant just teach them because they are instinct. First, remember, your on a bike. You can whip a bike around and seriously avoid some accidents if you dont panic. However, if its abundantly clear that your going to wreck, keep the bike in between you and whatever your going to hit. If that means locking up the rear wheel and kicking it out to the side, leaning and dumping the bike low side and you sliding behind/with the bike then that is what it is. Much better than any other option.

Another thing, again more instinct unfortunately, is to fall gracefully. Dont freaken panic, dont tense up, dont flail wildly, ect. Panicking causes you to tense up, and when your muscles are tense you break bones much easier. The shock of the impact will be absorbed less by the muscles because they are 'hard'.

Best advice i can give you is to buy a used duel sport bike as a first bike. About a 400cc with tires that CAN go offroad although their primary function is as a road tire. Learning how to handle a bike offroad increases your ability to drive ANY vehicle tremendously. It also breaks some of your bad instincts by getting you use to the idea of falling, hurting yourself, falling/dumping your bike smarter, ect.

Did i mention i get 60+ miles to a gallon on mine and i can outrun most harleys?
Rex wrote:Bikes are a blast, but there is a real chance you can die every time you get on one .
Yep. Its the reason im probably never going to own anything but at most a turbocharged super-moto bike. I simply dont trust other people enough to drive anything with so much weight that it becomes cumbersome or 'excessively dangerous' to fall with. Ill take my speed on 4 wheels.

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thanks for the info guys, i already memorized the msf textbook and did all the worksheets that came in it. im going to go as soon as i get a chance but life is hectic. im not going to be riding until then because i wont have a bike of my own.

real chance i can die every time i get on one? sweet. theres a real chance i can die every time i wake up in the morning. s***, i could even die in my sleep and never know. i have come to terms with my mortality, i just hope when i go if its on a bike i dont cause a situation that affects anyone else.

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Won't rehash what others have said about bike safety, but it's all important.

The thing that's hurting me right now is the insurance price. I am glad I paid a good amount for my bike, because I couldn't stand to be paying more per year on insurance than the bike cost. I have been riding bikes for 10 years, 6 on street, but I am getting raked over the coals on insurance quotes because I have never purchased my own bike before so I guess in the company's eyes I am classified as a young inexperienced rider. Will take more than that to stop bike fiends though.

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There is a reason they call them doner bikes.

Also, always watch behind you. Know if someones going to plow into you at a stoplight, or is following closely.

You can out brake cars at least ~3:1 in most cases, remember that.

Apply brakes both front and rear evenly in most road situations.

Downshifting in corners or while braking can cause sliding. If your hard cornering, it can cause you to lose control over the rear wheel of the bike.

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charlieo wrote:Self-taught riders are the second most dangerous type of rider on the road, statistically.

Get into an MSF course and wear gear or I'll mock you for being a squid forever.
^^As a self-taught rider who decided to stay off COMPLETELY until I take the MSF, I completely agree.

Beyond that though, don't let anyone goad you into starting on a literbike, and even a modern 600 is a little big, IMO. You can die on a 250 also, but it's unlikely you're going to kill yourself on a 250 by high-siding it, which IMO is the danger of starting with a bigger bike.

All the bikes I want are old and slow. I want a CB400SS or a Yamaha RD.

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after not riding for several years (81 suzuki gs850g was previous bike) i bought this 07 sv650 last month. added the lower fairings and other rice bits, kinda sucks the paint doesn't totally match. bike is pretty loud and i've been getting 62mpg, obviously it feels pretty fast (coming from cars, duh). this bike isn't all that comfortable to me, but it's probably my riding position. might try some clip ons that are further back.

bought it from a dealer, when i went to test ride he asked if i had a license but never asked the last time i rode, haha. almost dropped it right in front of the dealer, but sales guy had gone back inside so i don't think anybody saw my stupidity.

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I don't think its just about taking the course. You have to want to learn how to ride correctly. One of my friends took the course and has crashed twice since then both instances could have easily been avoided if he just listened in class.

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Also, never assume a patch of liquid or shiny stuff on that road is water. You should just treat it as if it were oil. Dont brake through it, dont try to corner through it. Thats the only time iv 'come close' to wrecking my DRZ, lightly braking and turning onto my street.. A guy had leaked out a significant slick of hydro fluid at the light. Not fun lol, i assumed it was water.

In addition, sometimes in the summer heat tar repair jobs become somewhat soft and moltenish. Watch out for them, thats really one of the worst feelings on a motorcycle ever is to go through that stuff at higher speeds. Again, dont brake or turn, pull the clutch and ride it out strait.

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So what is everyone riding on?


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snwbrdr435 wrote:So what is everyone riding on?
GSX650F


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I ride something like this. I got a centrifugal clutch, IE no clutch on the bike. Not my idea, but its so awesome for a daily driver. It does however take all the low end torque out of the bike, the low end torque is used to operate the clutch packs. Really hard to pop it up on one wheel, but thats the only downside really. Maybe a little fuel economy idk.


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not me. that's my roommate on his bike, though.

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snwbrdr435 wrote:So what is everyone riding on?
F4i for me too.


d!ck wrote:
not me. that's my roommate on his bike, though.
I'd suggest not listening to your roommate when it comes to gear...

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Current ride - 02 F4i



Last ride - 00 F4 with Colin Edwards Castrol Replica scheme. Started out with the red and black scheme. Ordered the graphics from redracingparts.com and then a buddy painted the plastics up.


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Squid roommate is squid.

I had an FZR600:.

Sold it when I moved out to Texas. I'm now shopping for a DRZ-400SM so I can do hooligan things and then swap for dirt tires for some Texas cattle trail running.

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yeah that pic was taken the day after he bought it. now he's an expert rider in his own eyes.

i love the look of the older sport bikes.

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The DRZ400SM is INCREDIBLE. My dad bought an 09, the thing is awesome. Again, motard setups ftw.

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Had an '01 F4i. Sold it last summer... the worst decision I've ever made.



I'm looking at getting either another 01-03 F4i or an early model RR.

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time to whore

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