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ILikeMy240sx
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I know this isnt the appropriate section to post this but I have to drive to the airport tomorrow and my car is not driveable...

I was chaning my rear brake pads and the passenger side went smooth with no problem. I come to my driver's side and I get my pads in there and start rotating the caliper piston clockwise to push it in... I mustve turned it about 100 times but it wont even budge... I tried counterclockwise to see if the piston would come out... sure enough it did. After that, I tried to push it back in by rotating it clockwise but like before the piston won't even move..... I cant even put my old brake pads on now... I made sure my master cylinder was open the whole time.

I do not see any leaks around the piston and the brakes worked fine before this mess...

I need to fix this car by tonight so I can drive to the airport tomorrow morning. Please, I would appreciate any suggestions.

thanx

EDIT: got the piston pressed in(extra hard...) but new problem... one of the pin bolt is stuck in and will not move which is not letting me put on my new thick pads...
Modified by ILikeMy240sx at 8:10 PM 7/1/2005


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Make sure your ebrake isnt up... That got me the first time I tried to do the rears. DOH!

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oh no, no , no

you gotta use a special rear brake tool for that. you can rent it at autozone. it comes in a red box.

as for putting it back, check the service manual. you can search and download it here.

taking it out is easy, but i putting it back in might be a problem. you need a press and drift tool for that. wait, thats for the rings inside.

Well check the manual.

*my first instinct would be blocking the brake fluid supply line to that side and running on 3 brakes. AND BEING VERY CAREFUL.

remember75% front, 25% rear braking power is applied, so you are safe.

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You don't need a tool, i turned my rears in with a pair of pliers. It sounds like he is turning them like he should, but they are not recessing back into the caliper like they should. You might have to find a way to put pressure on the piston while you are turning it to press it back in.

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ILikeMy240sx wrote:I mustve turned it about 100 times but it wont even budge...
dammit, i wanna come there and bittch slap you!!

you dont just turn it. REAR BRAKE TOOL, TURNS IT AND PUSHES IT IN AT THE SAME TIME.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS FOR THE JOB. AUTOZONE $40 TO BUY, USE IT, AND RETURN IT FOR FULL REFUND.

ITS CALLED RENT A TOOL SOMETHING.

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lol,he doesn't need a slap, he's freaking out already.

So yeah i guess rent the tool, i didnt know it pressed while turning... another DOH on my part

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u dont need to rent the tool. You get a C clamp push it in, then u turn in little bit, then u push it a little bit, then turn a little bit.

u can rent the tool but it sounds like your not going anywhere.

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Your caliper might have seized up or something. It happened on my friends 240 but it was on the front. As for the special tool, if you did the other side with out it then you should be able to do other side with out it.

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Thank you guys for all your replies...

The weird thing is passenger side piston went right in with no push at all. All I had to do was turn it.

Drivers side. I had to break my back to push it in. What a major pain in the arse... I finally ended up getting it in but I have the biggest back pain... arrrrg.

So thats problem #1 taken care of. Now one of the pin bolt (bolt that slides in and out) is stuck in and it wont move at all so it wont allow me to put my new thick pad in there. I ended up doing new pad on one side and old pad on the other to fit the piston assembly...

Now I need to figure out how to get that pin bolt to slide in and out again... Or buy new caliper

Atleast the car is driveable now... I really was starting to freak out.

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ok well for starters my car wont turn over and start so i compression started it...and it ran fine but im having a problem with my temp gauge it runs hot in about 20 minutes im thinking it may be the water pump...i just replaced the fuel injectors...i also put in new spark plugs bosch to be exact and i was reading a couple of post on here saying that they were really crappy spark plugs for a 240 sx im wondering if that could be the reason why it wont turn over?

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make sure to bleed those brakes!

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sanioll wrote:
ITS CALLED RENT A TOOL SOMETHING.
I thought that was the name of a company founded by Rosie O'Donnell.....

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hudy wrote:make sure to bleed those brakes!
I did not take the line off... so I don think Id have to bleed the brakes.

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bayareastunna wrote:ok well for starters my car wont turn over and start so i compression started it...and it ran fine but im having a problem with my temp gauge it runs hot in about 20 minutes im thinking it may be the water pump...i just replaced the fuel injectors...i also put in new spark plugs bosch to be exact and i was reading a couple of post on here saying that they were really crappy spark plugs for a 240 sx im wondering if that could be the reason why it wont turn over?
huh?

ILikeMy240sx
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Lol... I think he didnt know how to make a thread...

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Even though you have them in for now, go buy the tool. It's a couple of dollars at the parts store. You need it to put the rear caliper pistons back in on an S14. I would take out and redo when you have the time to make sure they are done correctly. And if I remember correctly you use C clamps on S13's, could be wrong on that. It's been years since I had a 13.

~GR

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drink bleach it will helpthen tell your freinds to give me your car

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GirlRacerS14 wrote:Even though you have them in for now, go buy the tool. It's a couple of dollars at the parts store. You need it to put the rear caliper pistons back in on an S14. I would take out and redo when you have the time to make sure they are done correctly. And if I remember correctly you use C clamps on S13's, could be wrong on that. It's been years since I had a 13.

~GR
Both S13 and S14 has the piston that needs to be turned. I do have the tool to turn it but no I do not have the tool that BOTH turns it and compresses it at the same time. Yes, I need to find new caliper holder first... then my job will be done properly

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1. ON THE FRONT BRAKES YOU USE REGULAR CLAMPS TO PUSH CALIPERS APART, WHILE THE BRAKE FLUID RESERVOIUR IS OPEN.

2. ON THE REAR YOU HAVE TO USE SPECIAL TOOL, TO TURN THEM CLOCKWISE AND PUSH IT IN AT THE SAME TIME.

NO MAGIC HERE, END OF STORY. AND YOU NEVER TAKE YOUR PISTONS OUT.

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i've never needed this so called tool... sounds like a conspiracy

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bayareastunna wrote:ok well for starters my car wont turn over and start so i compression started it...and it ran fine but im having a problem with my temp gauge it runs hot in about 20 minutes im thinking it may be the water pump...i just replaced the fuel injectors...i also put in new spark plugs bosch to be exact and i was reading a couple of post on here saying that they were really crappy spark plugs for a 240 sx im wondering if that could be the reason why it wont turn over?
New guy, welcome to Nico. That's a threadjack. don't do that. start a new thread about your problem. please observe the no-smoking sign until well into the terminal, thank you.

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Ok ok,

1. there is a special tool, it works great

2. there is a not-so-special tool (needlenose pliers), it just works

compress the rear piston JUST A LITTLE!, your rear piston on that side went out soo far it can't engage the threads inside. By compressing it DID I MENTION JUST A LITTLE? it will be able the get a grab on them and you can then turn it in per normal.

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the calipers on these cars sieze a lot, i would drive the car for a mile or two and touch the rim with the troublesome caliper. If its hot to the touch, your'e not going to the airport (a brake fire could occur if you drove too far)

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Sometimes the caliper isn't siezed though. I had to adjust my ebrake every time I turned the pistons back in because they would act siezed, smoking brakes and all.


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