I need more power!

[nj1sh]

I need more power to my car. Whats next? I looked for stuff on ebay found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...43711 will it do anything?

[allensteiner]

i don't get the question? are you asking if a turbo is going to give you more power?

[nj1sh]

This turbo looks cheap... how much more HP will it give to my car? any idea

[allensteiner]

kzoosho could tell you more about ebay blowers because he started with one. hard to say how much hp to the wheels you'll get because you'll need a lot more stuff to go with that. out of the blower you can get more boost than your car can handle. how you tune it will play a big role. you'll need a wideband o2 sensor and a piggyback ecu like emanage to tune throughout the powerband.without tuning you can run up to 10psi of boost (iirc) without upgrading to bigger injectors, bigger maf etc but idk how much power you'll see peak (250hp?) because i'm not boosted yet

[Buzzman]

Man o man, I just read through that ad on EBay. Not sure about what you're getting there. They couldn't even spell valve correctly in the big picture (Valave?)The rest of the listing reads like it was written by a 10 year old, or translated from Japanese. It may mean nothing, but when I see stuff like that, I take a big step back.Be careful is all I'm saying, and read the fine print, especially the part about returns.

[PBfrEAk]

Man o man, I just read through that ad on EBay. Not sure about what you're getting there. They couldn't even spell valve correctly in the big picture (Valave?)The rest of the listing reads like it was written by a 10 year old, or translated from Japanese. It may mean nothing, but when I see stuff like that, I take a big step back.Be careful is all I'm saying, and read the fine print, especially the part about returns.

He has a VERY good point...I mean in the bottom left it says taco taco.

Usually if its too good of a price to be true...it is crap.

Be careful...be smart....do it right and spend more on quality.

[kzoosho]

I need more power to my car. Whats next? I looked for stuff on ebay found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...43711 will it do anything?

I ran an ebay turbo for a year and that said turbo is on another maxima doing fine. I didnt have any problems nor have my friends. Another Maxima owner that had success with ebay turbos is Neal and Hal. They both ran ebay turbo's. Hal made 480whp/500wtq with spray out of his ebay turbo.

Im not saying that ebay turbo's are good by any means im simply saying they arent as bad as people make it seem. If you do have any questions you can hit me on aim . I am always on and can and will answer any questions for you.

[PBfrEAk]

Well then...I guess it all depends on who you talk to...but some how I think there was a certain amount of luck with you guys getting decent quality turbos through ebay...I still think its a gamble I wouldn't make.

[lightsout]

don't buy that shizz

[kzoosho]

don't buy that shizz

SO are you another bandwagon rider or you really have a reason not to get it? Its funny how people that have never had it nor had any experiecnes with a product can say dont get it. ust becasue your friends friends friend said its bad it has to be right?

Before you tell someone not to get something please have a valid reason.

[Presscott707]

SO are you another bandwagon rider or you really have a reason not to get it? Its funny how people that have never had it nor had any experiecnes with a product can say dont get it. ust becasue your friends friends friend said its bad it has to be right?

Before you tell someone not to get something please have a valid reason.

calm down bro. Im sure lightsout is talking about how the add looks like a scam and you know theirs alot of that going on. E bay is full of them and this add looks a little shady, other then that I've had friends ran e bay turbos before most of them were all good I only had one friend blow his up but it was hit being stupid.

[slo03.5msp]

Really? It's a maxima. If you need more power get more car.

[kzoosho]

calm down bro. Im sure lightsout is talking about how the add looks like a scam and you know theirs alot of that going on. E bay is full of them and this add looks a little shady, other then that I've had friends ran e bay turbos before most of them were all good I only had one friend blow his up but it was hit being stupid.

Im very calm . But at the same time i hate when people hear something from some ones friend and now its the truth to them. Some one shouldnt recomend soemthing they have never dealt with. I mean at least i wouldnt do it. But o well.

[nj1sh]

Beside the turbo on ebay what other parts do I need? And how much will all the parts cost? 480whp 500wtq that just sick.

[lightsout]

Im very calm . But at the same time i hate when people hear something from some ones friend and now its the truth to them. Some one shouldnt recomend soemthing they have never dealt with. I mean at least i wouldnt do it. But o well.

...quit your B****ing

calm the F*** down man. Sheesh. why are you assuming that i "heard something from a friend", and blah blah blah ??? I never said "my friend says this kit sucks, therefore i agree with him"....that would be asinine. I came to that conclusion on my own after searching the web about the VBAND products. It's not my fault your car has/had one . look at the ad...poor quality. look at the kit, medium-poor quality. the ad even says the turbo is suggested for engines from 1.6L-2.5L(most H4's or I4's)......we have a 3.0L V6...it will push air, no doubt there. However, you have to match the turbo size with the engine size. this turbo is designed for a 4 cylinder engine. Search it on the web.. This is NOT a direct bolt on, you will still need the turbo manifold, exhaust piping, and intercooler(if you want one), piggyback, and EFIE simulators maybe.

first off...i don't believe you will push 400whp with this turbo alone. it is more possible to get 360-390 hp in your '96 running a non-intercooled properly matched turbo with stock internals, high flow cat, 3 in exhaust, perfect tuning, and a quality piggyback. Kzoosho's buddy supposedly got 480 with NOS, lucky bastard i guess...but how long did the turbo last b4 it needed to be rebuilt or removed?...maybe it's still push'n some sweet psi w/o problems!

made in CHINA, sold out of MEXICO, and advertised with a chick in motocross gear flashing the "thumbs up" next to a factory turbo'd Evo.....hmmm where's the dyno gains on a Maxima with this turbo...if someone here has it, post it so he can make a better decision, b/c you shouldn't make a decision based on my opinion or Kzooho's opinion, but rather with proof of gains...it's all about how willing are you to take a risk such as this. Do your research on many different turbo's, you'll be glad you did in the long run!

"someone shouldn't recommend something they never dealt with"...that's like saying if a mechanical/auto engineer were to just look at the specs of this turbo, their opinion wouldn't be valued b/c they haven't experienced using the product...that is 2nd grade reasoning. btw, i'm NOT recommending this product, you are i think...although you haven't said that it would be a good investment and worth his money in the long run.

mans gotta be sooo serious...dude, they are JUST cars ...you build 'em you sell 'em...all in the name of FUN.

to me this turbo looks like quality...'NUF SAID...i'm out, why did i even bother posting on this thread...it got all warm and fuzzy, YACK.

i do have MAD respect for ya Kzoosho, but don't forget to breath before you post.

if you want your questions answered by the professionals...call Speed Force Racing out here in San Diego(santee)...they would be happy to tell you if they would recommend VBand or not...i'm betting not.

watch their video of this 02 Max first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f34Dr0i3-SQ


Modified by lightsout at 1:43 PM 11/11/2008

[Crusher103]

Beside the turbo on ebay what other parts do I need? And how much will all the parts cost? 480whp 500wtq that just sick.

stop right there and go and read about forced induction. If ur asking about an ebay turbo u obviously have alot to learn. i barely trust the intakes coming off of ebay no way in hell im going to trust one of the turbos

[kzoosho]

Did you forget that i am running an ebay turbo. Nealoc187 ebay turbo. HLH or Hal Ebay turbo. Not throwing anything out my ***. You will need a feed pipe downpipe bov at least a fmu and a safcII is recommended.

[jerdog1]

Really? It's a maxima. If you need more power get more car.

What! Maxima's are hot! True sleepers and with a few mods they romp on so many cars that its funny! A detuned 300zx engine and with some boost or spray; come on! That statement was lame! Remember that you can make crazy power with this engine!

[AcMav]

Remember you can make crazy power when you blow up an Engine. If you're going to do this cheap, just be weary you're risking your engine, and a new engine is NOT cheap. Do it right or be ready to face the consequences when you crack a head gasket or some other major product. I would not advise someone to try and do Hal's 480hp, that's just scary without doing any lower end work, or overall work.

I'm looking into turboing my car, but first I'm going to bore it and stroke it to drop the compression, and do it right. If you're going to do it, I always say to do it right, I'd rather buy a used turbo out of a production car than an Ebay turbo because then I can do the math for the air requirements of the engine and size it correctly. This turbo could be sized correctly but I'm not sure because I've never dyno'd and checked the airflow on a stock Maxima, so you could have issues of way too much lag/way too much top end boost for the engine, giving you a tiny as hell effective RPM range. Theres more to turbos than just boost, read up before you buy.

This is just like the whole stupid max HP wars. You're not looking for horsepower, You're looking for torque across the RPM band. You want the area under the curve not a HUGE spike between 3,000 and 3,200 RPMs. Unless you're building an Dyno battle car, the numbers don't matter, the Dyno charts do. Show me a dyno chart on that 480 hp and I'll be happy, because the spool up on that thing must be insanely slow, unless he was running sequential turbos.

Hold off and read, don't just jump into it, It seems like you don't know much about FI in general, do your research, then make your move, be an informed buyer.
Modified by AcMav at 3:36 AM 11/17/2008

[kzoosho]

His last dyno was 538whp/603wtq on a stock block. The vq30 is strong no need to build it unless you plan to do like me and have more than 600whp.http://www.dynomagic.com/thefast_hlh.htmyou can do a little reading.