i need info on running an external fuel cell on an s14

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S14Chask
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my s14 gas tank keeps breaking and im over fixing it im going to run an external in my trunk but im just curious as to how much it will cost me and how hard it is to run the lines and stuff also if anyone has good pics of there setups or any 240sx setups with fuel cells that would be awesome ive looked on the web but i really cant find s*** on it ive found a super street add and a few other things but thats about it thanks..


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Go to ATL, FUELSAFE they have everything you need. What keeps breaking?

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the actual tank part its like old brittle plastic ive broke it 2 times drifting and it broke like 14 times just driveing lol

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well..you can go a few routes here.......jegs.com and or summit racing has many fuel cells to choose from....i myself would only run a aluminum cell..becouse there more durable under sliding conditions..and it looks more leet!...

as for the line..you can intercept your existing lines..or delete them compleatly and run braided stainless lines(costly) but looks cool...nesesary if you plan to compeate someday...or go the cheep route and run nylon braided.....

with a cell..you will need some AN style fittings..there are really only 2 reliable brands to choose from in my book....(XRP) or (aromotive) brand fittings....what ever you do..dont by (Earls) brand...they tend to fail randomly "Track proven failures".

if you plan on compeating..remember that all fuel lines must run on the INSIDE of the frame rails....

thats it in a nutshell man..not to dificult except wireing in senders for the fuel gauge and fuel pump...let us know the progress and what ya decide..

P.S. in my sig is my myspace..i have pics of how i ran mine in my hatchback.

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I see you are using a drag race cell. I have a fuel safe cell for my hatch. I road race so I have to have FIA approved cell. I will have mine lower in the rear of the trunk to keep center of gravity low. I use (2) fuel pumps with pick up's mounted on both sides of the tank.

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very cool i like your setup with the dimond plate it looks good what size tank are you running?? i dont want to go to low prolly around a 12 gal. how do you wire your stock sending unit to work with the cell?? or do i but a aftermarket unit?? i dont think i will be running all new lines right away im most likely just going to tap into the stock lines.. as far as the pump how does that mount inside the tank?? ive seen some where they mount out side of the tank but idk and how did you wire your fuel pump to turn on did you go right to the batt with a relay or what?? i will deff let you know my progress im just over the crappy stock s14 tank and im not about to drop the subframe again lol plus i just droped a g on some max coil overs and the steering knuckle kit soo i still got a lil money to play with but i dont wana kill my self lol

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anyone know everything i need for an install for this type of thing?? im gettng a summit 10 gallon and 20ft stainless steal line what else do i need besides the fuel pump??

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rioredstang wrote:I see you are using a drag race cell. I have a fuel safe cell for my hatch. I road race so I have to have FIA approved cell. I will have mine lower in the rear of the trunk to keep center of gravity low. I use (2) fuel pumps with pick up's mounted on both sides of the tank.
thats a double wall cell bro..FIA approved..10 gallon...costly but effective.

how did you mount yours lower?..post a pic...i was thinking of lowering mine allso...whats pumps ya using?..aromotive?..one for main and one for booster?

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S14Chask wrote:very cool i like your setup with the dimond plate it looks good what size tank are you running?? i dont want to go to low prolly around a 12 gal. how do you wire your stock sending unit to work with the cell?? or do i but a aftermarket unit?? i dont think i will be running all new lines right away im most likely just going to tap into the stock lines.. as far as the pump how does that mount inside the tank?? ive seen some where they mount out side of the tank but idk and how did you wire your fuel pump to turn on did you go right to the batt with a relay or what?? i will deff let you know my progress im just over the crappy stock s14 tank and im not about to drop the subframe again lol plus i just droped a g on some max coil overs and the steering knuckle kit soo i still got a lil money to play with but i dont wana kill my self lol
i donot have a fuel level sending unit installed...so i have to look to see if im low on fuel...dosent bother me thou.i wired the fuel pump to a fuse and a toggle switch 30 amp.

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S14Chask wrote:anyone know everything i need for an install for this type of thing?? im gettng a summit 10 gallon and 20ft stainless steal line what else do i need besides the fuel pump??
if your running a external fuel pump its allso a good idea to upgrade the fuel system as a whole and upgrade the regulator to one that you can adjust yourself...i like the mallory regulators myself..but there are many brands that work perfectly...you will allso need many fittings...you say you got 20' of line....got news for ya...took me 30 feet of line to run mine...allso..concider this too..larger line will be harder for a fuel pump to pressurize than a smaller line....BUT..larger lines can hold more volume to deliver larger amounts of fuel on demand for boosted motors or a serious spray kit.


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