I need help getting a 2way lsd

[deadred240]

Ok Ive been driving my 89 240 for two months now and I think I have either killed my stock lsd or its a viscus lsd, So I need a flipping two way but I cant find out how to get one. Im thinking about the whole cusco or kaaz units but Is the cusco a compleat factory replacement like the kaaz?One last thing Im pritty positive that I dont have hicas as its a 89 but if this is wrong let me know......thanks

[masticatingcow]

Okay, there's a lot of misinformation in your post, so I'm going to try and clear it up a little before answering your question.

The stock LSD, if equipped, is/was/will always be a VLSD. There are many ways to tell whether or not you have a VLSD, which you will find if you search a little through the forums here. In all likelihood, you don't have it, which means you have an open differential. For the record, an open differential is never limited slip differential; they're two completely different.

All that said, you can get a two way clutch-type LSD from quite a few vendors, but of course my recommendation will be this forum's sponsor, Drift Factory. The Cusco or Kaaz LSDs are complete factory replacements, but you still have to use your factory pumpkin, input and output shafts, final gear and the snap rings that hold it all together.

If I were you, I would not invest almost $1000 in a new differential. You probably have an open differential, which is fine for the kind of grocery getting you should keep doing for a while. Not to flame you or anything, but you clearly need to spend some more time behind the wheel of your car. Also, you need to research your options before you get into this sort of thing. Unless you are planning on drifting or dragging regularly, you probably don't even need a clutch type LSD. Look up heclical differentials, used viscous LSDs, or maybe even a good 1.5-way clutch LSD, all of which might be more appropriate for you.

[mmatl16]

ya id have to agree that u prob dont have hicas therefore u dont have any lsd. as far as getting a lsd...if u are drifting onto every freeway on-ramp and at every corner or downshift then get a 2 way. but if u daily drive your car and drift every now and then get a viscous or even a 1.5 if ur really serious.

u could get a viscous with axles pretty much anywhere for 200-250 dollars. I go out with my friends on the weekends and slide around a little and my viscous works wonders. in the future I might be upgrading to a 1.5 but I dont think ill ever get into a 2 way. just me though.

if u want to know of a couple places for viscous let me know

[deadred240]

well thanks everyone, I value your opinions and opriceate your replys I am not all about a viscus lsd so Ill probly score 1.5way or 2way. But one last thing I live in north carolina and dont have a credit card so Im realy looking for a shop......thanks

[masticatingcow]

Uh, well, okay. You're profile says you live in Colorado Springs... is there a Colorado Springs in NC? Anyway, if you really want to take advantage of the tuner market, my advice would be that you GET a credit card, or at least an ATM card with a Visa or Mastercard logo on it. That way, you can deal with manufacturers and suppliers directly, effectively cutting out the middle man. Plus, you can usually get breaks on price if you deal directly with suppliers, AND if you order out of state, you don't pay tax.

Think about it, get a credit card, save some money, and stick it to the man. All by indulging in your car. Not a bad plan.

[Juujai]

vlsds dont lock very well and theyre really random to lots of people. i think if youre interested in looking into an lsd for drifting get a hard locking, more predictible 2-way clutch type.

the first real upgrades any serious drifter should do besides the usual maintenance problems etc would be: 1 lsd2 suspension (coilovers or some lowering for starter then more stiffening and some adjustable arms as you progress)3 seat

all those upgrades like short shifters, exhaust, intakes, sr20det etc are nice but wont help as much in terms of drifting... stick with the 3 upgrades. save lots of money for decent grip/long lasting/cheap tires, good nonrotor warping pads that can last in high temperaures and take a good beating, extra rotors, and any rods or arms that can snap in the process lol. of course theres going to be the people saying that you shoud drive on a stock car until you learn how to drive etc but i seriously think these upgrades are very good and id recommend it to anyone thats wants to experience drifting on another level. novice or expert

install the 2-way and go do some figure 8s and donuts you'll get so dizzy and have so much fun. try having fun with an open differential.. you can go driving around in circles without peeling. you'll feel as if you have a handicap.

suspension keeps the car stiffer and body from rolling and the seats plant you in place while going nuts. so i recommend a 2-way clutch type lsd first.

most lsds available are usually really nice it just depends how hard you want the bite to be and when it engages and lets go. kaaz, nismo, tomei, cusco, ats are all good units.

[mmatl16]

well thanks everyone, I value your opinions and opriceate your replys I am not all about a viscus lsd so Ill probly score 1.5way or 2way. But one last thing I live in north carolina and dont have a credit card so Im realy looking for a shop......thanks

dude if you get a 2-way and uve jus started to get into drifting.....your going to wreck your car. I dont think you are comprehending the way a two way lsd works. Everydownshift your is gonna lock up.....every time you floor it then let off the gas its gonna lock up....I mean damn dude if you drive in the rain the first time ur getting on the freeway and let off the gas a little its gonna lock up and ur going to go off the road.....but what do i know ive only been in this for 2 years now....

[Grip Gambler]

OMG OMG OMG OMG 2ways are sooooooooo freackin Deadly

[mmatl16]

OMG OMG OMG OMG 2ways are sooooooooo freackin Deadly

I hope ur not talking to me

[deadred240]

Ok Ok seriously, everyone chill out I was not trying to start some crazy debate I was just inquireing if any one knew of any north carolina shops.and as to the colorado springs thing Im in the military so I consider colorado my home but I live in NC so no big deal right? any way I apricate everyones consern but Ive been driving for seven years now so I have a general knowladge on how to drive so im shure Ill adapt to the quirkyness of a 2way alright. So unless theres any more info on how not to go through the internet to get this silly thing dont worry about this post, thanks again........hang loose

[DriftFactory]

If you don't have a credit card you can sign up for Paypal with your bank account info. It doesn't cost you anything to send money (only to receive it).

If you're interested in a Kaaz, we have them and they are shipped free. Like masticatingcow said no tax, and we accept money orders too (you can select this option in our online catalog).

[masticatingcow]

dude if you get a 2-way and uve jus started to get into drifting.....your going to wreck your car. I dont think you are comprehending the way a two way lsd works. Everydownshift your is gonna lock up.....every time you floor it then let off the gas its gonna lock up....I mean damn dude if you drive in the rain the first time ur getting on the freeway and let off the gas a little its gonna lock up and ur going to go off the road.....but what do i know ive only been in this for 2 years now....

I know a lot of people who daily drive their 2-way diffs. In fact, there are quite a few on these boards... check the "Nismo vs. Kaaz" thread if you don't believe me. Point is, if you don't drive like a maniac, cars equipped with an LSD have the same street manners as those without. Of course, if you PUSH the LSD, it'll do what it's designed to do.

deadred240, don't confuse safety concerns for aggression. When you're into the scene, even locally, and you start seeing your buddies wreck their cars, or worse, themselves, thanks to poorly executed mods, the last thing you want is to let it happen to someone else. To be honest, I bit my tongue a little when replying to you, because typically, the people who jump on this board with a "new" 240sx and immediately start asking about LSDs really don't know what they're getting into. I apologize if we read you wrong.

[mmatl16]

I recommend lsd 100% but not 2-way for new people

[93180sxredtop]

weld it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hatebobbarker]

dude if you get a 2-way and uve jus started to get into drifting.....your going to wreck your car. I dont think you are comprehending the way a two way lsd works. Everydownshift your is gonna lock up.....every time you floor it then let off the gas its gonna lock up....I mean damn dude if you drive in the rain the first time ur getting on the freeway and let off the gas a little its gonna lock up and ur going to go off the road.....but what do i know ive only been in this for 2 years now....

dude, you dont know how to drive. a 2 way is not dangerous at all

i run a 2 way and the only reason i dont think someone should get it is the chatter, it takes like... a day to get useto

[deadred240]

so here we go I once again thank every one for the posts Im dead set on getting a 2way so this is for the driftfactory rep or maybe some one who genuinely knows whats up, as I only want to mess with ordering and such once, Is everyone shure that the cusco is a US s13 factory replacement? I ask because I have a canadian 1989 240 whitch im shure is the same as the us version but I want to insure that this thing will go in no stress as the kaaz unit diferentiates between 240s with and withought the factory vslsd but the cusco dose not and the kaaz has special gear oil and the cusco dosent. well that about it stay cool and hang loose.

[masticatingcow]

I don't know about the 89-90 models, but I think every other Canadian S13 had a VLSD equipped. One sure fire way to check would be to block the front wheels, jack up the car by the differential pumpkin, and spin one wheel. If the other wheel spins the same way, you have a VLSD. If it spins in the opposite direction, it's an open differential. Also, there should be an orange sticker (if it hasn't fallen off) on the differential, indicating that it's a R200V unit, Nissan's OEM VLSD.

I don't know enough about the Cusco differential to say whether or not it's a factory replacement. The Kaaz, I know from experience, is a pretty easy install; about as "factory replacement" as you can get. I would go with the Kaaz differential. The Kaaz LSD is a proven product, and I think it's cheaper to boot. Plus, a can of gear oil, free shipping and no tax kicks arse. So, a little under $900 out the door and you've got everything you need to make that 2-way work. Hard to beat.

[raging panda]

yea, for the 2 way being dangerous, if you have any self control it wont be a problem. Just dont drive like an idiot and you will be just fine.

[hatebobbarker]

yea, for the 2 way being dangerous, if you have any self control it wont be a problem. Just dont drive like an idiot and you will be just fine.

put it way better then i did, i just cant turn off that ******* reflex.