i made 498wp & 502 wt with my stock kadet

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i have a 97 240 sx that i put a turbo kit on to the stock ka24 i use a srt4 turbo manifold which i had to change the flange to the ka a 60-1 turbo srt4 fuel rail with 650cc inj safc with a walbro fuel pump a stage 4 clutch kit, stock ecu on 14psi i made 300wp & 318 wt the car was running real rich from 2000 to 4300 because the safc could not turn the 650cc inj down but from 4400 up to 6500 my a/f was at 11.9 on 22psi the car went to 498wp & 502 wt it was still rich in the low rpm. The problem i had at 500wp was i broke the ring land around the piston all 4 of them i tryed it twice and i had the same results the car lasted about 3 months. right now its on 14psi at 300wp &318 wt i drive the car every day with no problems.


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If there are no pics. Then I call

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What kind of turbo?

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Garrett 60-1

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Dyno sheets man. I can't believe you until you post em up.

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will the pic tell you how much i made or is that you only made it to k garden so you need pic to understand the stories?

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This was all done with just a safc? Hard to believe you were able to adjust timing that much to just run the safc alone and make 500whp. So the car made about 200whp with just an increase of 8 psi

ka 24 det
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i work at a performance shop called the horsepower connection where i have access to a dyno jet i first tune the car about 7 months ago since then the computer crash that we use to run the dyno so all the files we had was lost maybe its hard for you to believe but im not the first one to make that power on a stock ka i know a couple of people who have done it as i said right know the car is making 300wp & 318 wt on 14psi and till i put piston and rod in the block and turn the boost back up to 22 psi or more

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You should have a rom tune or full standalone for 650's, The only reason you would keep the SAFC if you had one of the two would be to make minor changes in your fuel trims, I dont believe you btw.

ka 24 det
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the car made that much difference because at 300 hp the a/f was at 10:8 with the boost turn up the a/f went to 11:9 thats a big difference in power.work at a performance shop with a dyno and i spend most of my day tuning cars.

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so u r running your car with bad piston rings? and you are makeing 308 whp at 14 psi with bad rings



so you are useing the garret super 60? I find that realy hadr to belive.

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Hes using a Garret 60-1, much much larger than a Super 60, that is a 500hp capable turbo, but the rest of his mod list makes his numbers unbelievable.

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you don't have to believe it but i have done it don't get me wrong the safc did not turn the fuel down enough thats why i turn the boost up i would'nt recomend to use 650cc inj with a safc 550 are fine but thats all i had and i made it work i dont know how much you know about nissan but you could put up to 720cc inj on the stock ecu and the car will start and idles but dont rev

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Yeah, it may idle, but it would idle terribly, you would be well past maxxing out the stock MAF at those power levels also.

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^^^ agreed.

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also how did you deal with the timing had to do something other than stock ecu.

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how do you know that have you done it ? this is something i did so before you start doubting me do some research

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i retarded my distributer and use 110 octane

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ka 24 det wrote:will the pic tell you how much i made or is that you only made it to k garden so you need pic to understand the stories?
You are wondering if I made it to kindergarten with Grammar like that? It doesn't matter if I didn't make it into preschool. I'm calling until you post dyno sheets.

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It's not that we don't believe you, it's just without proof we think you might be lying.

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the only thing i believe is that this thread should be locked, deleted, and the original poster banned until proof of said power or education level is provided.

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First of all,

If you could please post a list of all your supporting mods, with what you have told us I don't blame the guys for not believing you.

Second of all, with the type of grammar you are using in your posts please, don't even attempt to flame other members on here about their education level.

Now, if what you say is indeed true please support your facts, cause it would be nice to have you contribute your knowledge on how you achieved all that, and share it with us, as we all have the same goal.

Also Welcome to NICO. Lets try to get this thread back on track before further action is taken.

Thanks,Mike

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i'm in the same area as you and there are other KA-Ts running around with the power level that you claim you have. first off, your tuning.............u have no significant tuning done besides an safc and manual retardation of the distributor? ur timing is what caused you to blow those previous engines. there's a reason why people aren't believing, and it's not the lack of a dyno sheet or your grammar.

your setup is somewhat flawed since you don't have a proper tune whether via a ROM tune, enthalpy, JWT, or some sort of standalone. Hell you didn't even list the MSD BTM so at the very minimal, your still using the stock timing tables. as for the rest of ur setup, your MAF HAS to be a z32 MAF, cobra MAF, lightning MAF, or the use of a MAP sensor must be in place. without these things, your motor would and will blow, and from what you posted, that's exactly what happened.

Not trying to put u down or give you grief but unless you have something to control the timing, then there's no way for you to make that power without immediately blowing your engine. Also in regards to your fueling, the SAFC will only trim up to 550cc injectors so beyond that, your car will be backfiring and driving piss poor in normal driving conditions.

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Jookmasta are you on stock block still?

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Logan76 wrote:Jookmasta are you on stock block still?
I still have a stock block... But it's got about 4k of parts and machine work into it.

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Maybe I should ditch the Tuned ecu, forged pistons and rods so I can make 500hp!

A complete list of all your mods would make this thread somewhat believable,

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No one that works at a shop and posts the name of a shop will do such a discredit by not even using grammar when he posts. Also, they tend to know what they're talking about.

This thread is ALL lies...thx for playing though.

Also, a 60-1 isn't a turbo, it's a trim. Is it a T4 with a 60-1 compressor, or a T2 with a 60-1 compressor.

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I made probably 500hp to on my stock block. Lasted .1479seconds.Neck was a bit sore from snapping me back 2rd gear pull on my t3/t4. Tried turning boost up to 12psi... and it went past 20psi stock block with 555 injectors SAFC. Able to drive daily fine. You can run bigger with safc if you know how.

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Thread is locked for a reason bro...but thx.


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